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AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke ! (Read 1152 times)

Jun 8^th, 2012 at 6:42pm

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Hi !

I downloaded Cyril Pioffet's great AS341 Gazelle helicopter.

But, it emits so much black and white smoke that you think

the helo is on fire. Even after take-off. It looks ridiculous.

Can some one help out to get rid of that smoke or at the

very least reduce it to something we can live with. I don't

know about the real helo that is if it smoked a little or not.

Thanks for any answer,

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Reply #1 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 6:51pm

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OPEN up the Aircrafts CFG File,,,, found at the bottom of all your Aircrafts folders for that particular Aircraft,,, once you open the AIRCRAFTS CFG File,,, scroll down on the LEFT side slowly,,, and look for the words [Smoke System] - then Below that are some numbers and other B.S.,,, just eliminate or Delete anything right below that,,, [Smoke System] , only just below the words smoke system tho,,,,, then Click on SAVE ,, in the upper left hand corner of the file,,, SAVE,,,, NOT save as!!!!! you should be fine ,, if not let us know !!

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Reply #2 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 11:11am

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Hi !

There is no smoke system section at all in the original aircraft.cfg.

So I added one using [smoke system], [smokesystem] or [smoke_system ] with nothing under it.

The smoke is still there.

By the way, the Tolga Piskin's Gazelle as a smoke section with various values but unfortunatly he forgot to include the .fx files in his package.

This is the model I'll be creating views for very soon.

Still it would be great to solve this mystery !

Thanks for your help !

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Reply #3 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 11:30am

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sounds like its tied to the aircrafts MDL file some how,,,, and I have NO clue where to go from there ,, sorry,,,

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Reply #4 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 7:16pm

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Hi !

Thanks for you efforts. If I ever find the answer, I'll post a reply here.

Have a nice day !

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Reply #5 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 7:46pm

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I just downloaded the Gazelle and I can't stop the smoke either!
I e-mailed Pioffet but it bounced, so i'm going to uninstall it.
There are plenty more Gazelles around for download..

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Reply #6 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 9:04pm

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Now ya'll got me curious, so now I'm gopin to try it see if I can dig thru where the problem lies,,, i'll be back,,,, as Arnie says,,I'll be Bock ,,,,,

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Reply #7 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 10:02pm

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Downloaded it, Injected it into "FSX Gold Acceleration",,,, I have Windows 7. After downloading it, and firing up the Heli', I hit the "I" smoke key,,,, nothing, NO Smoke,, no hint of any smoke - nothing,,, so then I gave it Full Throttle and took it up, still NO Smoke at all,,, don't know,,, must be the way your windows system is reading a file or a graphics issue or something. I did not change any files ,, just left everything as it came in the download,,, tho - - - I did delete those extra panel file and some other file that came with the copter, and left everything else ( See Screen Shot). Sorry can't help ya,,, want some good Heli's try "Rotorcraft Simulations.Com" they have some nice Heli's too !!! Freeware ~ !!!! ( http://www.eaglerotorcraftsimulations.com/ )

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Reply #8 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 12:45am

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Hey Jetranger, why hasn't my Gazelle folder (below) got a 'texture.IHS' in it like yours? -

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Reply #9 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:58am

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OK ~ I admit, I only searched once for this Heli', and assumed this is the one you downloaded ?? evidently, you've downloaded one with a lot more Textures, so the one I have will be different than yours . Also, since their 2 different downloads of the same Heli' by evidently the same Designer, you may be able to swap MDL and Model files with your with results ???? I dunno' you'll have to experiment and test & see. Which also is reason to believe WHY my Heli' download Aircrafts Texture folder is named different than yours that resides in your Sim . All I know ( which isn't much Grin

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) , is that I had NO Smoke at all from this particular Heli. Below is a Screen Shot of the very Exact Heli that I Injected into my FSX Sim. Hope it helps ya ??? I dunno' ? Jetranger / Kansas City (KMKC)

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Reply #10 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 3:28am

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This (below) is the one I was talking about, (it smokes like the furnaces of hell). The moral for all of us is therefore to in future make sure we're all singing from the same song sheet!
And hey Macareno, another moral is to never waste too much time trying to get dead duck downloads to work; just delete them and download another one to try until you find one that works..

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Reply #11 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 3:41am

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and I thought I was the only 1 that was Scatter Brained ?? Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - Jun 10^th, 2012 at 5:01am

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Scatterbrain Kid wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 3:28am:

The moral for all of us is therefore to in future make sure we're all singing from the same song sheet!

This is the reason I always ask anyone seeking help with a download to provide a link to the problem file, preferably to the page it's posted on so I can check it out.

After a process of elimination I've found the solution is simple enough.
Open Aircraft.cfg of the Gazelle in Notepad.
Scroll down to the [GeneralEngineData] section & change the engine type to 3 (Helo-Turbine) like this.

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type=

3

//0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=Turboprop
Engine.0=-2.30, 0.0, 3.00 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum
fuel_flow_scalar=0.8
min_throttle_limit=0.000000

Exit Notepad saving changes when prompted.

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Reply #13 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 3:29pm

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Hi to all !

I applied the suggestion by Hagar ( engine_type ----> 3 )

and it works.

Thanks to all for trying to help ! Much appreciated !

It is the AS341 Gazelle Package posted by Garnier D. on

Simviation that was problematic.

Thanks again !

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Reply #14 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 10:30am

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Hi,
I found the cfg. file and the engine location but notepad will not let me save the change to 3 when I exit. Says access denied.
I am using windows 7 and FSX. Any ideas??
Thanks

DickA

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