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Jun 8th, 2012 at 1:34am

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Another plane Crash, this is like the 4th one in a week, around here ! My thoughts on this are , seems like thees an awful lot of these small plane crashes lately, maybe some of these pilots just aren't checking out their aircraft as often as they should, Pre-triping and post checking their aircraft before & after each flight throughly enough and taking too much for granted. In the last year, I'll bet theres been 40 plane crashes around my area, fairly easy to get a pilots license if ya got some money, but there needs to be some Mechanical ability and Knowledge as well I think, NOT just sit behind the controls and assume & hope everything is "okie-dokie" ! Flying & Aviation is Fun, great adventure, is better IF a pilot really knows the Aircraft inside & out, top to bottom, and stays up on all the mechanical issues, which takes money & Time. Just it seems like in Todays time, as long as you got the money & time, you can do just about anything, from buying a Harley Davidson to ride or Fly an Aircraft - yet , most don't seem to be SERIOUSLY into their Vehicles , other than operating them, lack of Mechanical know how and knowledge seems the norm anymore,  I'm seeing it with a lotta "Wanna Be Harley riders", and also "Wanna Be Pilots", as well as the new breed of 18 wheel Semi-Truck Drivers, who evidently think a Slack Adjuster is a pair of Suspenders to hold their britches up ~ !! I don't know, but before I was ever allowed to climb in an 18 wheeler semi-truck and Drive, back years ago, I was made to learn to work on them mechanically 1st and tear them apart and put them back together, so I'd know the parts, how they work and what they do. The Same goes for flying, my father who flew for 50 years without an incident, always maintained his Cessna 172 Aircraft top notch, and he knew every inch of that plane from top to bottom front to back inside & out, every rivet, bolt, nut and screw and hose and clamp. Now days, some ( not all) seem to have the pilots license, be able to know what some of the gauges are & do, and know where the flight yoke is, and get it off the ground,, and maybe land ,,, anything short of that ,, their clueless, and when ya go into their hanger , which I've done a few times - ( this is no joke either) - there sits a 40.00 dollar K-Mart or Wal Mart TOOL BOX with less than 100.00 worth of tools in the damn thing ~ really makes me wonder just how SERIOUS the pilot is about flying and maintaining his Aircraft ??  What really truly Bothers me,,, really gets me, is the lack of seriousness on maintence issues, and its costing them their lives, their Familys lives, and in some cases their friends lives as well, and that is very Sadd, that this many people are Dying, when it may have been somewhat prevented IF, they'd just slowed down, took more time to Analyze their Aircraft , check it out or have it checked over more frequently by experienced qualified professionals , if they themselves are not that mechanically inclined,,, the loss of life I've been seeing and hearing about with these small plane crashes is getting totally out of hand !!!  Wasn't it just last week, or the week before there was like 4 small plane crashes in 1 week,, in 1 week, 4 plane crashes,, and now this plane crash in Florida, that killed the pilot, his wife and ALL 4 of their kids !!! Theres just more to Flying Airplanes than knowing how to use a GPS, and hold onto the flight yoke !!  ( I welcome your opinions ) - Capt. I Fly Wings. / Plane Crash News Article -----} http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57449332/family-of-6-killed-in-plane-crash-i...
 

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Reply #1 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 4:46am

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I have to agree there seems to be an odd increase in crashes this past year. Last year for airshow/exhibition flights it was incredibly deadly. 2 Red Arrow Pilots, the Reno tragedy, T-28 Horseman, a wing walker, a Red Star pilot, Liberty Belle, the Duxford Big Beautiful Doll, test Gulfstream G650, and several more performers I cannot name. Then like your local airport there was a surge of crashes in my area, we were getting almost 2 a week there for a month.

All I can say is flying has its inherent risks, but due diligence and preparation could eliminate a good majority of crashes always.

As you said, making sure your aircraft is mechanically up to snuff is big, but so is your ability to operate the machine the way it is suppose to be operated with in its limits!
 

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Reply #2 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:13am

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To a certain extent I agree with you, but with the modern complexity of aircraft even GA aircraft, the ability to be able to work on them and fix them has not been reflected in the advancements of technology by aviation legislation. As a pilot owner you are allowed to do a certain amount of self maintenance, but the lines have been become blurred over time due to said technology advances. There is a fine line between keeping GA affordable and airworthy.
As for the linked crash, in this case the owner would have had to be a licensed aircraft technician to work on this category of aircraft.

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Reply #3 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 7:05am

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Well damn, the news just gets worse, its now being reported that 1 of the sons was sucked out of the aircraft as it was breaking up in mid Air, he has yet to be found in the thick woods, least not yet , and it goes on to say that at 1 time not to long ago, apparently this plane was owned by one of casey anthonys attorneys and used to shuttle her back and forth for trials I assume . Article ----} http://www.kctv5.com/story/18732462/6-members-of-k-state-bramlage-family-killed-...
 

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Reply #4 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 7:42am

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If you watch the NTSB reports online like I do at work, you realize crashes happen every day.  The only difference is how many the media find newsworthy.
 
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Reply #5 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:52am

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DaveSims wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 7:42am:
If you watch the NTSB reports online like I do at work, you realize crashes happen every day.  The only difference is how many the media find newsworthy.



Yes, it is pretty much a daily occurrence, but selectively reported Roll Eyes



EricFSX92 wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 7:55am:
The pilot in this case sounds like the typical weekend warrior who would forget to put the gear up anyways.


Based on what???

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Reply #6 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 4:21am

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Jetranger wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 1:34am:


Flying at 26,000 feet is awful high, maybe the pressurised cabin sprung a leak and the pilot blacked out through lack of oxygen, making the plane start roller-coasting and break up?
The wreck seems remarkably intact so it must have hit the ground at a shallow angle instead of going in vertically and fragmenting into little pieces.
 

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Reply #7 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 5:20am

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Scatterbrain Kid wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 4:21am:
Jetranger wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 1:34am:


Flying at 26,000 feet is awful high, maybe the pressurised cabin sprung a leak and the pilot blacked out through lack of oxygen, making the plane start roller-coasting and break up?
The wreck seems remarkably intact so it must have hit the ground at a shallow angle instead of going in vertically and fragmenting into little pieces.

The service cieling is at 30,000...
...Acording to wiki...
 

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