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Apr 20th, 2012 at 11:33am

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One of my usual haunts... Smiley...!

A leisurely trip, following the Salinas River, and Interstate Highway 101, down the Salinas Valley, from Salinas Airport (KSNS) to Paso Robles Airport (KPRB) dropping off at the various little airstrips en-route, to collect some sample bottles from the Salinas Vineyards, with the venerable assistance of my little Cessna 150 Aerobat!

FS 2004...>>>

Heading down the valley...

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Beautiful country-side all around!

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Looking back towards Salinas and the  Pacific Ocean behind me...

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Hills off to the right...

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A stop-off at Mesa Del Rey Airport (KKIC) for some fuel...

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...also excellent for its Summer Salad crops!

Paul.... Smiley...!

Well worth a trip!....>>> http://www.seemonterey.com/salinas-valley-california
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Reply #1 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 3:21pm

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Wonderful shots and commentary Paul... Smiley
 

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Reply #2 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 3:38pm

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Flying Trucker wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 3:21pm:
Wonderful shots and commentary Paul... Smiley


Ta, Doug... Smiley...!

I thoroughly enjoy my little hops from one small airstrip to the next, at lowish levels, in familiar landscapes, in my little '150, on a nice warm Summers day, with hardly a cloud in the bright blue sky.... Smiley...!

Exploring the scenery is what takes my fancy in the Flight Sim!

Paul...with a Picnic Hamper, a bottle of California Red, and a Tyre Pump.... Wink...!
 

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Reply #3 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 3:55pm

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Fozzer.
You say FS9 looks better then FSX...
Have you even looked at shots of FSX??? Grin
 

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Reply #4 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 4:07pm

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jetprop wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 3:55pm:
Fozzer.
You say FS9 looks better then FSX...
Have you even looked at shots of FSX??? Grin


You asked for it...>>>

My copy of FSX!

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Both shots taken in exactly the same location as my FS 2004 shots, taken as an example of the difference in the scenery quality between the two Flight Sims!......

All FSX sliders at, or near, maximum settings...
Same date, same time of day, same weather, etc...

I rest my case, Your Honour!... Grin...!

Do I really want to spend loads more money on my FSX to try and make it look as good as my present FS 2004!... Shocked... Grin... Grin...!

Paul... Grin...!
 

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Reply #5 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 4:38pm

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Fozzer wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 4:07pm:
jetprop wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 3:55pm:
Fozzer.
You say FS9 looks better then FSX...
Have you even looked at shots of FSX??? Grin


You asked for it...>>>

My copy of FSX!

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Both shots taken in exactly the same location as my FS 2004 shots, taken as an example of the difference in the scenery quality between the two Flight Sims!......

All FSX sliders at, or near, maximum settings...
Same date, same time of day, same weather, etc...

I rest my case, Your Honour!... Grin...!

Do I really want to spend loads more money on my FSX to try and make it look as good as my present FS 2004!... Shocked... Grin... Grin...!

Paul... Grin...!

My FSX is composed of freeware...
But I know better then argue with stubborn old people. Grin
 

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Reply #6 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 4:49pm

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jetprop wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 4:38pm:
.....But I know better then argue with stubborn old people. Grin


... Grin... Grin... Grin...!

There you go then... Wink...

You know, when your Dad says its time for bed, you know that he really means that its time for bed!

..NO arguments!.... Grin...!

Paul... Grin... Grin... Grin...!
 

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Reply #7 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 4:55pm

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Fozzer wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 4:49pm:
jetprop wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 4:38pm:
.....But I know better then argue with stubborn old people. Grin


... Grin... Grin... Grin...!

There you go then... Wink...

You know, when your Dad says its time for bed, you know that he really means that its time for bed!

..NO arguments!.... Grin...!

Paul... Grin... Grin... Grin...!

No,I learned it from my teacher. Grin
She isn't old but she's one of the vainest and stubbornest people on earth. Grin
 

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Reply #8 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 5:52pm

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Is that default FS2004?
 

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Reply #9 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 6:37pm

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pete wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 5:52pm:
Is that default FS2004?


Its default FS 2004 with various very nice bits and bobs added over the years.

To get my FSX to the same, or similar state, would mean that I have to throw my present computer away, purchase another very expensive one, and start all over again, adding more Payware and Freeware software, in the hope of matching the present satisfaction of my FS 2004.
Which, having used FS 2004 since its release, would be a waste of time and money, and is a no-brainer!
FSX is fine for someone starting out with it for the first time, but for me, it would be totally unnecessary to start all over again with my copy of FSX, with all its various trials, tribulations, and problems, which would definitely occur...(The FSX Forums!)

My FS 2004 isn't broken, it suits me perfectly, so I don't need to fix it with FSX!... Wink..!

I have grown up with FS 2004, (following after FS 2002), and it will probably last me until I pop my clogs!

Paul...FS 2004...FS Navigator...LAGO FSE...etc... Smiley...!
 

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Reply #10 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 6:27am

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Oh and Fozzer:
those settings are NOT max in FSX shot,the're bare minimum except autogen. Grin
 

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Reply #11 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 7:29am

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Fozzer wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 6:37pm:
pete wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 5:52pm:
Is that default FS2004?


Its default FS 2004 with various very nice bits and bobs added over the years.

Not default then. Tongue
 

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Reply #12 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 7:40am

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Hagar wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 7:29am:
Fozzer wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 6:37pm:
pete wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 5:52pm:
Is that default FS2004?


Its default FS 2004 with various very nice bits and bobs added over the years.

Not default then. Tongue



....FS 2004 with all sorts of nice little bits and bobs peacefully added over time...

But without all the misery, frustration, hair-tearing, forum fights, endless chats/arguments, etc, of trying to get FSX to the same standard of enjoyment!

Paul... Tongue... Wink...!

..travelling further down the valley this afternoon...flying, instead of tinkering! Smiley...!
 

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Reply #13 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 7:49am

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Fozzer wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 7:40am:
Hagar wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 7:29am:
Fozzer wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 6:37pm:
pete wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 5:52pm:
Is that default FS2004?


Its default FS 2004 with various very nice bits and bobs added over the years.

Not default then. Tongue

....FS 2004 with all sorts of nice little bits and bobs peacefully added over time...

But without all the misery, frustration, hair-tearing, forum fights, endless chats/arguments, etc, of trying to get FSX to the same standard of enjoyment!

It would help if you listed the main addons you've used to get it to look like that. My FS9 never did, even with VOZ textures & Gerrish Gray's trees.

I've said many times that I've never had a problem with FSX. It has always run fine on my cheap low-end machine without any tweaks or headaches.
 

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Reply #14 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 8:43am

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My main add-ons to affect the appearance of my FS 2004 Scenery:

Payware FS Global Scenery SE Mesh....(one of the first to install, long ago!)
Freeware scenery meshes and land-class for local areas: (Sim V Library).
Freeware VOZ 1.8 for scenery colours, and the free, gorgeous "Koorbygen" buildings!.
Payware REX for various textures.
Gerrish Grey's free tree sets, (for my lovely, golden, Autumn trees!).

And that's about the lot, together with careful selection of
location, month, time of day, and default weather.

LAGO FSE; "Flight Sim Enhancer" gives me the opportunity to add various objects; HUMANS!, aircraft, buildings, etc, etc, to make my ground scenery come alive, in FS 2002 and FS 2004!..(you don't get that for FSX!)

(...and most very recent, days ago, for the USA: Ultimate Terrain USA and Canada, to show real roads, rivers, railways, coast lines, etc, for my explorations!).

All my FS 2004 settings, sliders, etc, are set at maximum, which my lowly computer hardware allows, (P4 Dual Core 2.8 GHz/n-Vidia GF 9500GT 1 GB), with little, or no effect on frame rates. Locked at 20-25 FPS. (You cant do that with FSX!)

FS 2004 contains everything I need for my particular purpose...which is wonderful.... Kiss...!

Paul.... Smiley...!

Oh...and I mustn't forget, the most important thing of all....FS Navigator for flight planning and Multiplayer Radar!...(You don't get that for FSX!).
« Last Edit: Apr 21st, 2012 at 9:57am by Fozzer »  

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Reply #15 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 9:14am

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Hardly a fair comparison then Foz .....  Cool. You should compare like with like otherwise it's pointless ....


.... & like Hagar I've never had any problems running FSX in any way. Never felt the need to get any tweaks or anything. Out of the box from day one running smooth and always has done.
 

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Reply #16 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 11:38am

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I'm afraid I lost patience with FSX long ago, straight out of the box, with my available hardware at the time.
I had to reduce all my setting to run the sim almost to zero, so that it appeared little better than my FS 2000, whereas my FS 2004, straight out of the box, ran smoothly. It just needed a few add-ons to make it look prettier!

I still reckon that FS 2004 was an excellent piece of Microsoft flight simulator programming at the time, (following after FS 2002). They got it right, almost first time, with little or no problems from then on.
Whereas FSX was, and still is, a constant battle to get it to operate to our individual satisfaction, as can be witnessed in the various FSX Forums, ever since.

For newcomers, starting out with FSX, and very impressive hardware, there should be very few problems, and no doubt it is the version to continue into the future, but for me, progressing through the various versions since FS '98, FSX came as a serious shock to the system...including my hardware system, at the time!

I still have a feeling that FSX was programmed in Compiled BASIC, whereas FS 2004 was programmed in proper Machine Code!... Grin...(Sinclair Spectrum/Timex Zilog Z80 48K)... Wink...!

Life is far too short to re-program FSX all over again!... Grin...!

I will obviously keep my FSX for the future, while I enjoy my FS 2004 in the meantime, and my big bag of Chocolate Cookies... Smiley...!

Paul...(The fight continues!)... Grin...!
 

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Reply #17 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 4:14pm

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Fozzer.
I'll make a picture of my FSX in that area,all freeware and only 2 tweaks unless you count my ENB experimenting.
 

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