Simviation Forum - *sigh*... Just played Flight again...

Reply #15 - Mar 21^st, 2012 at 9:24pm

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JSBSim is the flight dynamics program it uses, the same as Flightgear.

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Reply #16 - Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 7:10pm

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Well I watched the videos. Fantastic!

On the strength of them I downloaded the sim & paid $15 to get the Cessna & helo too. Configured them for my Saitek X52. It worked. Amazing.
All I can say is that it's very much in alpha mode. Long way from any use but I have donated $15 to the cause. I will wait some and give them a chance but apart from nice scenery its not up to much yet. Thanks Xpand for pointing the sim out to me. maybe I wont turn my face to the wall just yet Wink

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Reply #17 - Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 7:20pm

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You know that buying the alpha version garantees you the full game for free when it comes out?
Sadly I can't buy it myself because my computer doesn't meet the minimal specifications necessary to run the game...

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Reply #18 - Mar 23^rd, 2012 at 6:10pm

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Just to be sure, we are talking about Anteworld, the demo they released, correct?

From what it looks like, you'll be able to walk out of your front door, drive to the airport, fly to a lake somewhere, take a boat and go boating.

I wonder if they'll add rail; then we'll have train simulator as well...

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Reply #19 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 3:37am

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If you oldtimers recall Flight Simulator II and IV. It was still 3rd party addon companies that came out with innovative addons. This "Flight" game was never about expanding the boundaries of flightsimulation. It was about trying to grab a market share of the 3rd party developers combined with trying to make an XBOX hit. And to add to their network presence as they tried to do with Bing! , silverlight and Microsoft Live accounts.

Unless MS bought all the top end 3rd party developers and made FS a flagship product (like Office and all it's ancillary software) we will never see any DLC (always overpriced) from MS approaching the quality of PMDG, ActiveSky, or FlyTampa. Acceleration had the needed patch, but the Hornet and 737 as realistic addons? please.

That said, flight sim won't end. In the next thirty years, there will still be some more advanced flight sim somewhere. maybe some offshoot of prepar3d or XP11. Or if Apple decides to start making games and simulations.

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Reply #20 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 4:30am

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krylite wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 3:37am:

If you oldtimers recall Flight Simulator II and IV. It was still 3rd party addon companies that came out with innovative addons. This "Flight" game was never about expanding the boundaries of flightsimulation. It was about trying to grab a market share of the 3rd party developers combined with trying to make an XBOX hit. And to add to their network presence as they tried to do with Bing! , silverlight and Microsoft Live accounts.

Unless MS bought all the top end 3rd party developers and made FS a flagship product (like Office and all it's ancillary software) we will never see any DLC (always overpriced) from MS approaching the quality of PMDG, ActiveSky, or FlyTampa. Acceleration had the needed patch, but the Hornet and 737 as realistic addons? please.

That said, flight sim won't end. In the next thirty years, there will still be some more advanced flight sim somewhere. maybe some offshoot of prepar3d or XP11. Or if Apple decides to start making games and simulations.

Well if MS thinks it's a good idea to hold onto the FS market (which they basically created and have alot of fans) then they will soon realise their only option is to make FS11.
If not then it's best they just drop it and realise they fumbled massively.

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Reply #21 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:59pm

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Funny, I didnT think FS had ad dons until around FS 5 or so...

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Reply #22 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 3:46pm

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Having become addicted to one of the very earliest versions ..... and being stuck with what we had -- realizing there were people out there making addons exploded my FS experience into what started this site ..

I was thrilled that there were other aircraft (like jets) and new panels to fly in ..... they were all so easy to install .... it made FS more than 10,000 times better ..... & ALL because it was open source and there were people making all this stuff by their own enthusiasm .. it was amazing.

Sure .. some was crap and some didn't work ... but it was the GREAT stuff that kept being available every day or 2 that rose 30,000 feet to make it all fantastic.

Had it been a closed market like Flight is .. it would have died a death within a year or 2 ... No way would MSFS have worked ..

Luckily FSX (&FS2004) has literally unlimited potential. Given computer resources we could be flying around our towns in real time ... potentially .. There are no limits beyond the drive to create ...

(.. as a point ... My main current PC was purchased in 2010 ... FSX runs at all maxed zero problem. No stuttering. & without any tweaking either. My older PC was bought in 2007 .. again FSX running at about 60-70% without any problems ... I never can see why folk have trouble -- unless you are trusting those 'securities' from the likes of Windows .. to be running on your system .. -- always do an Alt Ctrl Del to see what is using your resources .. you may find a few are rubbish and un-needed... )

... and the future really does lie in open source programming ... ALL the greatest innovation comes from that (& yes even Apple uses coding that was developed openly -then they bought it & patented it .. Main reason I use Android over Apple) There will be other open source Flight Sims ... The demand will never go away -- as WE all know ..

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Reply #23 - Apr 11^th, 2012 at 7:58am

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Luckily FSX (&FS2004) has literally unlimited potential.

This cannot be over-stated..

Between what can be built into a model (aircraft and scenery), and/or manipulated in the cfg and air file, and the things that can be accomplished via XML "gauges".. The innovative horizon is still WAY out there

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Reply #24 - Apr 11^th, 2012 at 8:38am

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[/quote]Well if MS thinks it's a good idea to hold onto the FS market (which they basically created and have alot of fans) then they will soon realise their only option is to make FS11.
If not then it's best they just drop it and realise they fumbled massively. [/quote]

I agree on that fox.

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Reply #25 - Apr 12^th, 2012 at 5:20pm

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Since they sold off the FSX engine to Lockheed Martin, I wouldn't hold out for an FS11. If by some chance there was one, it would have to be based on Flight, not FSX.

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Reply #26 - Apr 12^th, 2012 at 5:27pm

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Wing Nut wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

Since they sold off the FSX engine to Lockheed Martin, I wouldn't hold out for an FS11. If by some chance there was one, it would have to be based on Flight, not FSX.

They did?????????????. lockhead martin has Prepar3d that does work with fsx..

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Reply #27 - Apr 12^th, 2012 at 5:57pm

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It was my impression that L/M had picked it up from MS so they could develop their own simulator from it. If that's mistaken, my bad...

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Reply #28 - Apr 12^th, 2012 at 6:00pm

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Wing Nut wrote on Apr 12^th, 2012 at 5:57pm:

It was my impression that L/M had picked it up from MS so they could develop their own simulator from it. If that's mistaken, my bad...

They did & P3D is basically the commercial version of FSX with a bit of tweaking & fixing.

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Reply #29 - Apr 12^th, 2012 at 6:08pm

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have you seen the orbx stuff with 3pd awsome.

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