Well. let's give the man a chance here. 

Striker, you want to name a source for your information?  Because if you can't at best you're spreading rumor and at worst, you are spinning libel against one of the most respected design teams in the Flight Simulation market.

So please, provide us with a link to your source...

BTW, does anyone know anybody over at Carenado so we can contact them and check on this?

Camel_Moe wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:


Lets face it, most Universities teach students how to think and form their own opinions based on information obtained from multiple sources. As for any College/University openly allowing their students to use encyclopedias as their primary source of information, in my opinion, is unheard of and a non issue.

Both Wikipedia and Britannica have detailed editing/review formats for insuring quality assurance of proposed changes to their on line articles. Both encyclopedias compare favorably in their Literary style and both, on occasions, make serious errors. Britannica is consistently raited the highest as it has been with us since 1771. A 2005 investigation in Nature showed that the science articles from Wikipedia came close to the level of accuracy of Encyclopedia Britannica with both having a similar rate of serious errors.

The editing styles of both encyclopedias are not fool proof to prevent a "Wiki style, on the fly" or maybe a "Brita style, on the fly" definitive error to be made.

Flight Ace wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 5:31pm:



Encyclopedias has a primary source is mainly a "non-issue" in the sense that students are told outright not to do it, and mostly there isn't a problem with students trying..

Lists like this one that directly tell you not to use ecyclopedias as a primary source are quite common:

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/paperref.htm

That one even "bans" the Internet as a whole.

Another guide, from Berkeley, clearly states that "reference books" are secondary sources:

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/instruct/guides/primarysources.html

So yes, it's a non issue in the sense that the rules have been established, and not enough people violate those rules to make it an issue.
Unfortunately, I cannot find the list my Grandfather used to hand out to his classes at MSU. I don't really need it, but it was funny the way he wrote it. From memory though, in his case, use of encyclopedias has a primary "would result in an automatic failing grade (on the paper, not the whole class), and a complete wash of the instructor's Chevy before being allowed back in class".
No, he didn't make students wash his Truck, or ban them from class, but the fail was for real, and the rest was to stress the point....

All about words it seems

When you install the Microsoft Sims they go in Microsoft Games folders on the system...so in that respect they can be called games, but this start to become hair splitting as call it whichever and you can support what ever justification you choose.  On the other hand the versions up until now have be FS (Flight Simulator) something where Flight drops the Simulator part of the title and does not have a number following the earlier offerring.


MS Flight doesn't sit comfortably in either

Could it not just sit on it's own between the Current Flight Simulator Board and The Graphics Gallery???

That way it is still up where it will be noticed yet not being seen to be classed as the replacement for FS.X by being in the 'Current' Folder

It's a bit like the tomato debate as to weather it is a vegetable or a fruit...it is a fruit by growth but used as a vegetable, so what is it??...well it's a Tomato and everyone just accepts it without getting involved in trying to categorise it.

Same here, it is neither but can be either...but it is Microsoft Flight and can be whatever you want it to be, but doesn't have to be anything.

I think it really needs to be thought of as 'Something else", maybe from small acorns mighty oaks will grow, but that remains to be seen.

Seeing that there has been no activity in the Flight Forum for a few days & that the last post that had anything to do with Flight was a fortnight ago at least I think it would be worth moving if you wanted to Pete.