I don't use fsx anymore, so I really don't know... but in the interest of fairness, that's default fsx scenery?

Groundbound1 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 3:30pm:

It isn't and I'm wondering what scenery that is aswell.

Fozzer wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 4:13pm:


Paul,

Perhaps it's due to the lack of other features in Flight at this point (AI, ATC, dynamic weather, global scenery) that allows it to run so smoothly, where as with FSX those built in features draw resources from the CPU and GPU.

Honestly, I don't know why; I don't think I can even touch Flight. My computer is older than yours is!

(Make the 2.8 a 3.0, and remove one core... that's my box!)

Alan 

Flight Ace wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 3:06pm:


First off, Flight is visually far improved over FSX. I know this because all during development, I did the comparison screenshots each month with default FSX, max settings, and matching weather.

Second, there is a problem with your screenshots. You are using add-ons in FSX and different weather settings. (specifically in the final shot.) Please tell me how in the world this is supposed to show the true improvement? Comparing default to default is a comparison...comparing add-ons to default is not.

What I would like to see are pure default comparisons between FSX and Flight. Obviously, if you have Flight DLC content, that is alright to use, as it only adds locations and planes. But adding stuff to FSX that changes the way the sim actually looks isn't a good comparison.

How can I make a flight from My country to Hawaii , Brandon? where are the jets ? what kind of improvements? , Graphics ? I think the Guys that work in that software did not realize what software they would be compare too ,they did never saw FSX

Its Better the Flight Ace's FSX Photos and   from the Flight because one simple reason , we will be at the will of what M$ wants no third party.. the deal is FSX still the best and we can add photos terrains ,airports airplanes EVEN starships

Its Literally like compare a House it the whole New York City ,Its INSANE TO DEAR TO SAY FLIGHT ITS BETTER THAN FSX 

Its should be rude and unpolite to the world 's intelligence  to even dear to compare FSX which is a complete World Simulator with a game of 1 island With Propellers aircraft I consider Offensive to my intelligence

this whole thing of this software came to replace M$ previews version Do they really belive their own bull $**s??


.how long will it last the watter improvements? the terrain improvements? do you think Flight will last ,I will give 6 month before every ones gets bored and even delete it from their computers

I still enjoy FSX and not because of the airplanes , its because FSX renew it self, Its a serious Simulator for grown ups persons , for people that wants and dream to built Prototypes as XPAND does, or me making my little models around Or PMDG making almost realistic commercial aircraft  ,this is something Flight will never have .. (if it survive the next 6 months)

Important ,I'm not saying that Flight Its a bad game, But is not a Simulator ,its something else ,It has a nice textures ,landscapes as Ive seen i your pics, what really impressme that do you still compare FSX with the Flight, Do u think the Moon and the Sun can be compared ?

also they should be in every Forum paying attention because from what I see I Google error code 8007000D and its very common right now among many many users and
No a single feedback in many forums about this ,or fix

this is the Error Log

Logging Started: 03/03/2012 19:57:37
EXE: C:\Archivos de programa\Microsoft Games for Windows - LIVE\Client\GFWLClient.exe (3.5.50.0)
DLL: C:\WINDOWS\system32\xliveinstall.dll (3.2.6.0)
Source Folder: C:\Archivos de programa\Microsoft Games for Windows - LIVE\Client
OS v5.1 Service Pack 3 (build 2600) 32 bit
OS Product Type: 0x00000000
User Default LCID: 0x0409
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(19:57:37) Installing C:\Documents and Settings\Alex\Configuración local\Datos de programa\Microsoft\GFWLive\Downloads\EA2CCA3391C0088731FE638820AAE1E665143B3E_76
E46592-2EAE-44D5-B121-EB428F08C5F8_1.cab to C:\Archivos de programa.  Flags: 0x00000007
(19:57:38) Stage 0: Start
(19:57:38) Stage 0: Finished
(19:57:38) Scanned C:\Documents and Settings\Alex\Configuración local\Datos de programa\Microsoft\GFWLive\Downloads\EA2CCA3391C0088731FE638820AAE1E665143B3E_76
E46592-2EAE-44D5-B121-EB428F08C5F8_1.cab. Size: 1532133145. Count 0 [Code:0x00000001]
(19:57:38) Extracted manifest from C:\Documents and Settings\Alex\Configuración local\Datos de programa\Microsoft\GFWLive\Downloads\EA2CCA3391C0088731FE638820AAE1E665143B3E_76
E46592-2EAE-44D5-B121-EB428F08C5F8_1.cab to C:\DOCUME~1\Alex\CONFIG~1\Temp\extAE5D.tmp\Content [Code:0x00000000]
(19:57:38) Parsed C:\DOCUME~1\Alex\CONFIG~1\Temp\extAE5D.tmp\Content\ChainInstall.xml from C:\DOCUME~1\Alex\CONFIG~1\Temp\extAE5D.tmp\Content [Code:0x00000000]
(19:57:38) Extracted EULAs [Code:0x8007000d]
(19:57:38) Stage 1: Error. Reason:Install [Code:0x8007000d] Msg:
(19:57:38) Stage 1: Error. Reason:Generic 1 [Code:0x8007000d] Msg:
(19:57:38) InstallProduct exit [Code:0x8007000d]
(19:57:45) Installing C:\Documents and Settings\Alex\Configuración local\Datos de programa\Microsoft\GFWLive\Downloads\EA2CCA3391C0088731FE638820AAE1E665143B3E_76
E46592-2EAE-44D5-B121-EB428F08C5F8_1.cab to C:\Archivos de programa.  Flags: 0x00000007
(19:57:45) Stage 0: Start
(19:57:45) Stage 0: Finished
(19:57:45) Scanned C:\Documents and Settings\Alex\Configuración local\Datos de programa\Microsoft\GFWLive\Downloads\EA2CCA3391C0088731FE638820AAE1E665143B3E_76
E46592-2EAE-44D5-B121-EB428F08C5F8_1.cab. Size: 1532133145. Count 0 [Code:0x00000001]
(19:57:45) Extracted manifest from C:\Documents and Settings\Alex\Configuración local\Datos de programa\Microsoft\GFWLive\Downloads\EA2CCA3391C0088731FE638820AAE1E665143B3E_76
E46592-2EAE-44D5-B121-EB428F08C5F8_1.cab to C:\DOCUME~1\Alex\CONFIG~1\Temp\extCD3F.tmp\Content [Code:0x00000000]
(19:57:45) Parsed C:\DOCUME~1\Alex\CONFIG~1\Temp\extCD3F.tmp\Content\ChainInstall.xml from C:\DOCUME~1\Alex\CONFIG~1\Temp\extCD3F.tmp\Content [Code:0x00000000]
(19:57:46) Extracted EULAs [Code:0x8007000d]
(19:57:46) Stage 1: Error. Reason:Install [Code:0x8007000d] Msg:
(19:57:46) Stage 1: Error. Reason:Generic 1 [Code:0x8007000d] Msg:
(19:57:46) InstallProduct exit [Code:0x8007000d]

ok I add the red one

Hit the nail on the head Alex.   Also, the scenery is MegaSceneryX Hawaii.

ViperPilot wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 5:16pm:

Mmmm, I think your right.

BrandonF wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 6:25pm:


BrandonF,

I enjoy flying the new Microsoft Flight especially nap-of-the-earth.. The scenery is visually improved over the FSX default scenery developed over five years ago. I would expect nothing less than something developed today to be better than its five year old predecessor.

Remember FSX is the tenth version of Microsoft's popular line of Flight Simulators. It was released on October 17, 2006. As a part of that release, Microsoft opened their FSX code allowing outside Software Contractors to develop and sell add-on improvements. These improvements include GEX, UTX, REX, Photo-real Scenery and many other complimentary packages including Aircraft. As a result FSX has changed considerably from its release date. Today it is a very robust, dynamic, and realistic Flight Simulator when applying the improvements developed over the years.

You asked me to please tell you, and I quote, "how in the world this is supposed to show the true improvement?" When you compare FM to FSX, it is both FM and FSX this date (Today) not FM today with FSX over five years ago.

The screens I posted compare FSX today with Microsoft Flight today.

Regards,

Flight Ace

Quote:


Flying Mouse I completely agree with you.

But I don't think that people would be so let down about Flight if they hadn’t made the assumption that Flight would be a Simulator.

andy190 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 2:24am:

That's the most intelligent statement I've seen on this subject. It was obvious to me right from the start. The fact is that Flight was never intended as an extension to the MSFS series. That finished when the Microsoft ESP platform was licensed to Lockheed Martin. One provision of the licence is that Lockheed is specifically excluded from the Entertainment market.

expat wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 5:29am:

To me that looks like a slogan dreamed up by an advertising agency.

I suppose it depends on what you mean by simulator. From what I've seen & read about it so far it's a game. Nothing wrong with that but I can't see it appealing to MSFS enthusiasts who expected an improvement on FSX. To be fair MS never promoted it as FSXI. Unfortunately the minimal information posted on the Flight website was deliberately vague & people could read into it what they liked.

It is a fact, that it is completely "different" from any of the MS Flight Simulators that we have used before.
"Flight" seem to be aimed at a market of "aircraft game" newcomers, and to that end it may prove to be very successful.

Maybe, after a short while, they could become even more interested in the experience, and purchase the proper MS Flight Simulators for a more genuine flight simulator!

Perhaps, that way, we may accumulate even more flying enthusiasts, over time!

Paul....busy simulating... ...!

Do you know what...

..every time I delve deeper into "Flight" I am constantly bombarded with the words; "X-Box"..and "Windows Live for Games"...
I haven't got an "X-Box", and "Windows Live for Games" has not yet been conceived by me, and I doubt if they ever will be, so why cant I just use a simple Windows XP/7 computer and software, to play all my existing Games/Simulators, etc?.
To me, the X-Box, and a Personal Computers, are two entirely different animals, involving entirely different societies!
Chocolate's "FS Host" Server enabled us to communicate with each other in our flight sims, without recourse to Microsoft's X-Box involvement!
It looks as though Microsoft have deliberately excluded any "Flight" coding to enable 3rd-party Servers to enable on-line Multiplayer activity using Windows PC's... ...!

Paul... ...!

You had me at "Gamulations"! 

Love it! 

F35LightningII wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 4:03am:


Truth? Or Blind faith?

I'm inclined to go with the latter.

Now Brandon, you can't be a MS policeman any more. Get yourself out of the poo before you lose too much face.

I don't think any seasoned flight simmer would think Flight was a Sim so why your defending it I don't know.

And before you say, I'm a newbie so I don't know anything, I've been flight simming for 6 years & I'm working on my first aircraft for FSX.

jetprop wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:


I'm a Simpson that wants to be a Homer!... ...!

Paul... ... ...!

jetprop wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

It's a game.