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SOME OF YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ THIS ARTICLE, sounds like its getting way serious and ridlicious too ! Geshhhh.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46580123/ns/technology_and_science-security/
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From the way the article puts it, I really can't see a problem.
People should know that Google is a big business... It covers many websites and they run a lot of services. It shouldn't matter if you enter a piece of information on one part of the service, because it's the same people running the data no matter where you turn.
I think it's interesting how it will be able to recognise people and things in one program if you're connected by another. The whole 'personal dossier' sounds a bit extreme, but it will just be a lot of keywords and the such. Advert services have gone on for years, so that should be nothing new - Some of which actually scan the webpage you're on and look at the text you've just written to create tailored advertisements.
The only bad thing is the phone users who signed into a contract with one deal, but are being offered services which they might not want. Aside from that, I think this can only be beneficial. I would have to see more information on it.
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As long as you use Google and are not signed in, then there is not real problem, well that is my understanding.....Or??
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Mar 1
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expat wrote
on Mar 1
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As long as you use Google and are not signed in, then there is not real problem, well that is my understanding.....Or??
Matt
Yeah, you have it right. Gmail, G+, Youtube, ect. The new privacy changes mainly only affect account users.
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Mar 1
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Groundbound1 wrote
on Mar 1
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expat wrote
on Mar 1
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, 2012 at 9:57am:
As long as you use Google and are not signed in, then there is not real problem, well that is my understanding.....Or??
Matt
Yeah, you have it right. Gmail, G+, Youtube, ect. The new privacy changes mainly only affect account users.
I have a Google mail account. It is part of my phone contract. I use it, but not really as email, I use it as an international texting replacement. 50 cents € a text to the UK or Australia
, it gets expensive when I send quite a few a day. So if they want to try and make some marketing advantage out of my cryptic one or two word emails then they are welcome
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Mar 1
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machineman9 wrote
on Mar 1
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But if you are paranoid, and don't want a website to
know
anything about you, it is simple... Don't
tell
the website anything about yourself!
How is it paranoid if you don't want a website to know anything about you? Where I live and what I like is none of their damn business and in 15 years of surfing the web, I have seen a lot more reason to withhold this information than I have seen benefits from giving it.
Desire for privacy does not equal paranoia...
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Mar 1
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"Google privacy changes 'in breach of EU law'"
according to the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17205754
If you subscribe to a free internet service the product being sold is you.
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Mar 1
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Yet no one seems to have the slightest qualms about voluntarily furnishing intimate personal information to myspace, facebook, twitter et al.
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Mar 1
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I really couldn't care less what Google knows about me.
I never search the web while signed into Gmail, & they can feel free to look at my emails asking sites to remove Alex's aircraft from some sites libraries.
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Mar 1
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Webb wrote
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, 2012 at 6:29pm:
Yet no one seems to have the slightest qualms about voluntarily furnishing intimate personal information to myspace, facebook, twitter et al.
Deleted my FB account for that very reason. Sales of information is a highly lucrative business, and ole Zuck is worth enough without my help!
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I'm with Andy on this one. I never gave a hoot what Google knows. Google selling information to advertisers is nothing new, A few of us here have posts from the past about privacy issues with Google or Facebook. We live in different days now, as we are tracked and recorded everywhere we go, eveywhere we use any type of phone, any type of credit or debit card and or many streets we walk or stores we visit. So privacy pretty much went out with the covered wagon. The oddest bits, I think, is that it's quite difficult and expensive to find accurate records about yourself!
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Don't get me wrong. For me anyway, it's not a really matter of privacy. It's about allowing yourself to be exploited so someone else can make money. I just don't find the benifits of using services like those offered by sites like Facebook or Google, to be a fair or even trade off for the use of my information. It's just the principle of it.
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Mar 1
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Advertising has never not been there it's just changing the way it advertises.
50 years ago a salesman comes round to your house asking if you want to buy a Kettle.
20 years ago a sales representative rings you up asking if you want to buy a Kettle.
Now a company advertises on a website asking if you want to buy a Kettle.
So advertising has always been around its just changing its techniques to evolve with the ever changing world.
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Mar 1
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Well sure. Now it's called
targeted
advertising.
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Mar 1
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But if you look up Kettles on Goggle you either want to buy a new Kettle, or you’re weird.
So the advertising may be helpful. At less it would be better than random ads about married women.
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Groundbound1 wrote
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Well sure. Now it's called
targeted
advertising.
If someone knocks on your door or rings you up to sell said kettle, then you can't get much more targeted than that. Targeted advertising is just a new name for an old product, nothing more, and a name that some advertising guru got paid a $hit load to come up with.
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andy190 wrote
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But if you look up Kettles on Goggle you either want to buy a new Kettle, or you’re weird.
So the advertising may be helpful. At less it would be better than random ads about married women.
What about when curiosity has got the best of you. Quite a few "things" I Google, I would not buy our have the balls to buy.........I would still line my postman to carry on delivering to my door and not to the curb and then run away
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Baloney. If a salesman came to your door trying to sell you a kettle, he didn't take every scrap of personal information he could wring out of you, bundle it with 20,000,000 other people's info, then sell it to the highest bidder without your consent.
Again, you guys seem to think there is something wrong with privacy. Where do you think all of this identity theft is coming from these days? Because people accept that lack of privacy like it's nothing.
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Wing Nut wrote
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Again, you guys seem to think there is something wrong with privacy. Where do you think all of this identity theft is coming from these days? Because people accept that lack of privacy like it's nothing.
It all comes down to what you tell them. Most people on these social networking sites seem happy to tell the World about things they wouldn't tell their best friend in the real world. I've always been careful about the details I reveal in my personal profile on Google or even forums like this.
Even so, it's amazing what you can find out about people on the Internet if you know how.
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I'm all for privacy & I'm careful about what I share on Facebook.
But all you need to to do get away from the targeted ads, is just don't search the web while your signed in to Gmail or whatever.
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Wing Nut wrote
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Baloney. If a salesman came to your door trying to sell you a kettle, he didn't take every scrap of personal information he could wring out of you, bundle it with 20,000,000 other people's info, then sell it to the highest bidder without your consent.
Again, you guys seem to think there is something wrong with privacy. Where do you think all of this identity theft is coming from these days? Because people accept that lack of privacy like it's nothing.
Any salesman, internet or in person sells on such information and has done for years long before Google came along. In both cases, it is up to you how much information you give out. As long as you are not logged in to Google, then there is no real problem.
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andy190 wrote
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I'm all for privacy & I'm careful about what I share on Facebook.
But all you need to to do get away from the targeted ads, is just don't search the web while your signed in to Gmail or whatever.
Or just block all of the ads.
AdBlock Plus
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Webb wrote
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andy190 wrote
on Mar 2
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I'm all for privacy & I'm careful about what I share on Facebook.
But all you need to to do get away from the targeted ads, is just don't search the web while your signed in to Gmail or whatever.
Or just block all of the ads.
AdBlock Plus
And for FireFox users, the addon
Ghostery
. You can see who is tracking you and block them
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Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you.
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One could also use
"ixquick".
Not so well known yet, but I have a feeling that will soon change given
their privacy policy
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