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Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:30pm

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I have a Question thats been bothering me for a few years and I'm sure others have the same thoughts and often wondered WHY ??? When we Flight Simmer Guru' Hobbyist download an Aircraft and sometimes an Aircraft doesn't come with a "VC" ( Virtual Cockpit), I always wondered Why, is it hard to make ? or - is the Program that makes Virtual Cockpits hard to work with and hard to use as to why some Aircraft Designers & Creators don't attempt to make a Virtual Cockpit. I've always wondered this but never have asked before, didn't think anybody would tell me. So if you don't mind, what is the Answer ?? Thanks for the Info ! The Jetranger

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Reply #1 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:47pm

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There is not one simple answer Jetranger. Some developers aren’t interested, like Mike Stone.

Some don't know how to do it & some may plan to do one in the future.

You use the same program to make VC's as the exterior but the VC has to be a lot more detailed, like moving throttles & switches. And then you have to make the gauges & things so it is quite difficult.

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Reply #2 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:52pm

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Thanks, I Know I Couldn't do it, it turn out to be a Disaster and with my luck, somehow the Virtual Cockpit would end up on the outside of the Aircraft !!! Shocked

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Reply #3 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 9:03pm

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It's really hard, Jetranger. It's probably the most time consuming part of making an FS airplane.
To make it good you need tons of information: pictures of all the corners and holes in the cockpit, info on which gauge does what (especially when you can't read russian, like me and my Yak-15), make the 2D/3D gauges (which requires quite some experience with XML programming), texture everything from the large cockpit areas to the nuts and bolts. Animate and tag all switches, levers, trimrods, etc., if possible: Some cannot be simulated in FS therefore they're left unclickable. I personally love making my own planes exactly for the fact that you can make things up as you go along. If you're like me and have no chance of going near the real version of the plane you're doing, and cannot find any info on the nets after hours of searching (aka me and my Yak-15 again), you're going to be up for a lot of frustration and pain to make a decent VC...

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Reply #4 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 9:22pm

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What part of the Yak-15 cockpit do you need info on Ricardo?

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Reply #5 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 9:43pm

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Mostly the back side: the seat, rear side panels, behind the seat. And also the rudder pedal and yoke sections. I've been searching for clear pictures of that since September, when I halted the development of the plane....
Why do you ask?

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Reply #6 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 10:05pm

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There is a Yak-15 at the Vadim Zadorozhny Technical Museum near Moscow, have you emailed them asking for some pictures?

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Reply #7 - Feb 21^st, 2012 at 8:20am

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LOL, we can do that? xD

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Reply #8 - Feb 23^rd, 2012 at 7:02pm

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You need to understand systems as that all has to be modelled.

Reference is difficult

Timewise it takes loger than the rest of the model

I don't make VC's as I din't have the sysem knowwledge and also don't like VC's and never ever use them.

Si I'm not going to spend a thousand hours making something I'll never want to use. Shocked

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Reply #9 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 9:29pm

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Xpand wrote on Feb 21^st, 2012 at 8:20am:

LOL, we can do that? xD

I think we can. Wink

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Reply #10 - Mar 13^th, 2012 at 9:38pm

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If you can find someone willing to make a VC, it can easily be added to the aircraft in FSX that doesn't have one. Again creating a VC is a big task, but it can be done.

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Reply #11 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 1:55pm

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I am curious,what VC is that?

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Reply #12 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 4:34pm

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Looks like a Ford Trimotor

VC modelling is one thing, but to model it accurately with all the systems working correctly is very difficult

A lot of VC's are not done properly.

It's not a case of can it be done, more of whether or not enough reference and knowledge to do it properly is available.

You can add them easily to FS.X but not to FS.9

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Reply #13 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 10:20pm

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Where did you get the tri-motor?

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Reply #14 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:32pm

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Everybody wants to know where did I get that Ford TRI-MOTOR at ?? Well, let me tell Ya, I gotta tell, I can't keep a secret for Jack diddly Squat ~ ! I got it from CR-1 Software ( google it ), and heres a Video Promo' of it, and it comes for FSX and has a self installer that works and comes with about 8 different paint schemes and not only is the Virtual Cockpit rendered really well, but you should see the Virtual Passenger cabin too, not all Cheesy and square & boxy like some are, quite detailed and rendered very very nicely - Tom over at CR-1 know what he's doing for sure !! Heres the Promo' Video --------} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzj2BVdabDo&context=C49b8471ADvjVQa1PpcFOu_gjY5_H...

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