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Nice airport, right runway, ILS - allways a bite to the side... Why? (Read 972 times)

Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:41pm

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It happens all the time when landing ILS in the runway further to the right in Nice airport (there are 2 runways running roughly west-to-east). When following the glideslope it deposits me very smoothly.... 100 yards to the right of the runway! This does not happens in the left runway or in other airports. Also it does this with several airplanes (connie, electra... etc) Just in the R runway at Nice. Is it me? Is it my PC or my FSX damaged? Or does it happens with someone else? Some feedback would be reassuring...

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Reply #1 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 9:54pm

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Hey, at least it is just one airport for you, at least 90% in NA and Europe are that way for me. The angles are also off for me!

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Reply #2 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 10:07pm

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I've noticed this too
What I think it is, is the ILS transmitter is located to the side of the runway, about 20-30 Meters to the side.

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Reply #3 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 10:20pm

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Nothing broken, just the localizer antenna is not correctly placed in FSX.

Real world charts show that the LOC for Rwy 4R is offset. Rwy heading is 045* while the LOC heading is 043*. FSX got this part right.

Viewing LFMN in Google Earth the LOC antenna is located to the left of the runway which, with the 43* heading, would bring you over the threshold. FSX got this part wrong as it has the antenna in line with the runway which leaves you out to the right.

Remember that ILS alone is not designed to 'deposit' you on the runway. It's supposed to get you down to 'minimums' at which point (or earlier if necessary) you take control and land.

I couldn't find any corrected 'afcad' downloads for LFMN. If you have the SDK and an airport editor like ADE9X it can be easily corrected.

« Last Edit: Feb 12^th, 2012 at 12:24am by dave3cu »

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Reply #4 - Feb 12^th, 2012 at 6:46am

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dave3cu wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 10:20pm:

....Remember that ILS alone is not designed to 'deposit' you on the runway. It's supposed to get you down to 'minimums' at which point (or earlier if necessary) you take control and land......

........^^^^^.... Wink

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I reckon that that statement should serve as a reminder to every post regarding Autopilot and ILS navigation and landing!

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Reply #5 - Feb 12^th, 2012 at 5:52pm

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Thank you all for the feedback - at least I know is not only me...

I have to admit that I count too many times on the ILS to put me down in the runway Roll Eyes

I really have to buy myself a joystick, pronto!

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