It's my understanding that MS is going to have you choose which planes you want for MSF?  I know I saw a Mustang, so I'm definitely going for that, if this is the case.  I like that idea.  I never fly the commercial jets, so they're really a waste to have for me.

It seems to me I suggested this same thing about ten years ago back in the day of FS2002 and everybody on the forum pretty much blasted it as being heretical.  I thought it only made sense. 

Seriously?  No third party?  I'm outta here...

from what I have read and heard, Flight isn't going to be too great. I am hoping everyone is wrong, and flight will make another nice addition to my computer.

But, if not, FSX is still really good!

Wing Nut wrote on Feb 1^st, 2012 at 11:18pm:

I hope microsoft realizes this, but you have just spoke for probably the whole veteran MSFS community. 

andy190 wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 3:19pm:



That is exactly what I am trying to do for myself! It is just that I am REALLY hoping it will be better then what it has made itself to be out so far...

But oh well.. as I have said so far, FSX is still really good, and I am just finally starting to get it to work well on my PC now!

On Flights Facebook page they had to warn people if they use foul language the posts would be deleted. MS is in some way working on damage control. But listen, the real MCcoy hasn't been released yet, The beta testers know a bit more than most of us, yet they don't know every thing about Flight. We seem to be an angry mob with clubs and torches looking for a beast to slay. My club is in the shop getting polished, until I, personally try Flight. MS will take on so much flack for not including 3rd party developers it is quite possible they will change their tune in the near future. 


PS: Flights Facebook page is archiving previous comments, I think.

andy190 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2012 at 11:09pm:


I have to assume that registering  consists of supplying MS with a credit card number!

i hope MS flight is good, but from what i've heard so far its going to be a shitty arcade game, and not a sim

Microsoft points are the currency that we use on Xbox Live to purchase stuff like game add-ons, stuff for our avatars, etc.. but it does involve using your credit card to purchase the points or you can go to places like walmart, gamestop, etc.. and purchase MS points cards.

sorry about that. i didn't mean to sound aggressive.

silverserpent wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 8:29pm:

 
That's the most contrived way of getting people's money I ever heard of.
It's sort of like like money laundering.
Your not buying apps for a game, your only buying pretty little "cards"


Have we now resorted to killing the messenger and calling them "agressive"?  I though this was a discussion for adults.... IMO sugar coating something is akin to hiding one's head in the sand. 
BTW, I view calling me "agressive" pretty darn agressive in  its self.

Are MS point cards now given to gamers as gifts like any other "gift card"? If so, what a business racket is is even though it's legal.
Gamers are spending money at MS even though  they really  had no plans to just because someone gave them a "point card".

I guess I'm a little  old fashioned as I like a company to make (lots of) money by selling a good product but, I'm not so old fasioned that I wiil be suckered into buying "snake oil".

I can't help being reminded of the "The Big Bang Theory" episode where "Sheldon got robbed of a bunch of imaginary things for an imaginary place".
Will there be "hard copies" of the things bought for Flight or, can we suffer Sheldon's fate and have the things bought for Flight somehow be wiped out?
Forgive my ignorance but, I have never been a console gamer and have no experioence with "MS live"

BTW, TBBT is on of my favorite shows... one must maintain a sense of humor. 

Well some people think Microsoft Points are easier to use than a credit card because you don't have to always put in your pin.

But I don’t know why we are even discussing this since it seems MS Flight will be a let down. It might be a little bit of fun in the evening but it won’t have a lasting appeal because it’s not a simulation game it’s an arcade game.

Well if you can't fly around the entire earth out of the box it's not a simulator is it?

SamYeager wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:40pm:

I don't know, but compared to other actual simulators, it sure looks like an arcade-ish game to me too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fJ1CHHIh5A0#at=127

Ang2dogs wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:08pm:


LOL 

there are thousand things I already know but I still have to be quite as the agreement , all I can say ITS NOT BAD ,but it wont replace FSX its just another very different thing, people were waiting for something and went too far by saying the new SDK models will be have to be done in Maya ,why did people invent such of thing?

I will have it in my computer  as long it wont mess to my Flight X 

Hawaii,although a big island, is also small I think for any fast movers (fighter planes,etc). I would think (IMO) it's going to end up all props and choppers. Maybe a Lear for island hoping once the island chain expands. Anything bigger or faster than that is going to be alot of "Slew-in" landings (minus say major airports). Probly won't see a 747 offered till they incorporate a major continent to fly to.

If I decide to keep Flight after I try it....I'd like T.C.'s helicopter from Magnum PI....Concidering

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I distinctly remember reading an early MS press release that stated Maya was going to be the model tool for Flight.  Maybe that press release was in error, or MS changed their minds.

andy190 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 9:02pm:


I can tell you that they did not simply recompile them. The screenshots and videos should make it obvious.

andy190 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 6:44pm:


Sorry My Mistake ,I mean Kids from 7 to 12 

you know kids that are in other things and no trying to understand the aproach center ,the ATC the Flight plan,to heat the Pitov etc , brainy kids will hate it   Specially if the come with the idea that this is the replace of MFSX

I think this will be the Out of the complexity of FS , a lot of people don't know how much weight the fuel the flaps ,maybe it will be a boom ,and non FS entusiastic people will also love it ,but c'mon guys we all like to set a damage to the left or right engine ,to loose Hydraulic ,we all like that stuff, but the majority would like to get on a plane and fly just like that

andy190 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:


Hey Alrot long time no talk. why do you want th md-83 removed. I even have a copy of it on a pc pilot magzine? just curious.

Alex wants the FSND Lufthansa MD-83 Package removed because the person who posted it didn't have permission to & because he uploaded the whole plane rather than just the repaint.

scalper_old wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:


I don't want any body to paid ..
they made a lot of money sailing that magazine without asking me, freeware does not mean that has to be to any one who wants different kinds of redistribution,and earn money at my expenses , I made it clear in the statement in the read me file but seems the word freeware means

Hey I will upload this idiot airplane and said I made it

which it has truly happen , I really hope in the future there will be modelers that are willing to uplaod their work  freeware and  anyone can use the work of  to their own budget or popularity like Ricardo TV or someone name Chavez (coincidence) ,who also made my md83 and 707

and if money its about I rather earn that money for me ,I work the $%t a lot in those airplanes 

But hey lets get back to the Flight subject back to the topic 

andy190 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2012 at 11:57pm:

I seem to recall Alex posting on this forum that PC Pilot magazine had asked his permission to feature one of his aircraft on the cover CD. I forget which one but was this the MD-83? I really can't see the objection. Surely it can only be good for freeware developers as their work can be enjoyed by readers of the magazine who otherwise wouldn't know about it. It's also good publicity for Simviation.

Please don't apologise. I might have got it wrong.

It's a sorry state of affairs when a person will upload another's work and claim it for their own.  Do they really think no one will ever notice and since they're getting no monetary gain out of it, what is the use?  It speaks volumes about that person's level of self esteem...