I've read up on Flight beta quite a bit. I'm not in the beta so I can't sign a petition until I have my own hands on experience. From what I read online just makes me more curious. It's like, what is so bad about it. And then I'm like, what is so good about it. 

Like wow, its still so foggy to me.

This far into development I think they WON'T be making changes the serious simmer wants unfortunately...

There's one key piece of information that is attached to any game beta or game demo:

"May not be representative of final game quality"


Betas serve to discover any small problems that happen in the game. It's one thing to test the game on specific and well-maintained machines, and it's one thing to give it to the potential customer to see how it performs on typical machines on a typical basis.

Just wait and see how the final release of the game is - As I say, beta releases and demos are not representative of the final game quality. The things that they test in alpha and beta releases are vital tests of key features. It may only be a segment of the full thing. That's not being specific about Flight, that's just how software testing goes.


There is a reason why there is a non-disclosure agreement... Because when information leaks out, people jump to conclusions 

pirate21213 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2012 at 10:04pm:

MS Flight is a free game, you just purchase the addons that you want. I have no idea on the range of prices involved, but do consider this: You'd typically spend about £40 on the boxed version of the game anyway.

I'm not entirely sure how they'll handle it if you fly through airspace that you haven't purchased, that will be something to wait and see.

The SDK is another thing that I have no idea about, but I do hope that they bring it in. There is some major talent on both SimV and other sites out there.



Just don't be so hasty. It will be free for everyone to try when it is released.

Maybe they'll do a world-wide or continent offer for the scenery packages. It's a funny leap from the normal way that they did it. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. So long as the scenery, etc, aren't too expensive, I don't see the problem. It's more about getting what you want. In reality, will you ever fly all the aeroplanes that they offer in all the countries that are available?

A DVD release would be really good though. There must be some people out there who can't feasably download the game. No waiting on servers, no waiting on your connection, just waiting on the post man or waiting until the shops open to go and buy it.


I do like LIVE though, but that's from all my experience with Xbox LIVE (I must've been using it for about 7-8 years now!). Windows LIVE is still something that I'm still getting used to. It's basically the same style thing though... And the connectivity on Xbox Live and other Windows Live games has always been far far better than Gamespy 



I think everyone is agreed that it will be a new style of simming. Change usually looks bad but we either learn to appreciate it, or are forced to get used to it 

I'll be keeping my FSX Gold Acceleration edition ~ !  Tho, I was highly Disappointed with a lot of the scenery objects within FSX, for all the Hype & hoopla that went into the promotion & advertising of it back in 2005 & 2006.  I used to have an Amped up version of Flight Simulator 2002 Pro edition then sold everything and quit for like 5 years, and this year got back into it - I have sunk a fair amount of Money and a Shit load of time into FSX Gold with Add On's from Aircraft to scenery , this will be my LAST flight Sim  (FSX), for I can't afford ( and don't want to either) to keep Dumping money into new versions of Some Flight Simulator - just because it has some new aircraft and a new Tree that wasn't in a previous version of flight simulator.  I don't really care to dump Hundreds or thousands of dollars down the drain every 3 to 4 years, everytime Microsoft comes out with some supposedly New Flight Sim and puts out a lotta Hype and promotion about it, and gets everybody all Excited, then to find out - they cheapened it with "Child like Scenery" ( painted airplane hanger doors) - ( poor runway lighting) - ( deselate looking Airports) building after building all look the same - bridges that look so poor its scary  - and the Major change from File Structure - making it way harder to repaint Aircraft or fix files - Nope they can keep their so called New flight Sim "FLIGHT" as far as I'm concerened - especially if any of their scenery looks anything at all like it did with FSX Gold edition !!  many, many Thanks to any & all "Quality" Scenery Designers out there payware & some Freeeware scenery designers who enable flight simmers to at least enhance their scenery's  way better than MS gave us ~ tho MS could of put more effort in into object placement of structures and Design than what they Dumped on us with FSX.  I'll just keep my "FSX Gold Acceleration" edition with all the Add On's ( payware & freeware) "too much Invested" in it now to just dump and run over some new sim, that I believe will end up a total Flop within just a few years - ( ohh boy ~ a new A/C Tower) .   

If Microsoft decided to close off 3rd party development, not issue an SDK, and not bother to actively poll the FS community about what Flight should contain... what makes you think they're going to change now?

The folks in Redmond are concentrating on a demographic completely different from ours, and a completely different target audience. All we represent to them are supporters of a product that the EP of Flight, Joshua Howard considered as "too obtuse, dense, and hard to get into.”

Now, if the Executive Producer of Microsoft Flight describes what we consider "Flight Simulation" with words like that, I would surmise that "upgrading" Flight with MSFS attributes and features is the farthest thing from his mind right now.

Stick with what you're using right now, make it look as good as possible within your budget and hardware capabilities, and continue to support the Developers and Companies that support the hobby. It's the only way we're going to survive.

PREPAR3D won't be the cure all either... the Developer has a few more important things on their plate right now, like deep space probes, the F-35 JSF, and many other military and aerospace projects that would make Microsoft's collective head spin right off its shoulders.

Get used to it, folks... FS 9, FSX, XP and the CF sims out there are going to be the status quo for the foreseeable future;
to the folks in Redmond, Microsoft Flight Simulator as we know it, is dead.

A petition? Is it not clear enough since...I can remember that Microsoft absolutely don't care what 'serious simmers' think? They are just the company that to date has had the money and capability to turn out the 'best' simulator. The people making Flight are just doing what they're told and feeling grateful they have a job...

Why don't you send a petition to the enthusiastic people currently making alternative flightsims to FS who actually care about what they are doing and get them to improve their product? They need the money and customers and they may actually give a damn what simmers think   

Or get on the line to developers and have them make addons that fill in the gaps in FSX for serious simmers - a serious simmer surely doesn't need an even better graphic engine'which todays computers can't handle or to lose the use of all their addons in order to enjoy 'serious simming - which is what a groundbreaking utopian ideal replacement of FSX would probably bring... no?