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Dec 21^st, 2011 at 7:53pm

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Good evening all...

Just got this electronic gizmo back after two weeks waiting for the new video card to be replaced which I bought back in October I think...no charge...much thanks to them.

However I have downloaded MoCats Snow Dog Tours 2 (not the V or Juneau).

I believe it is the largest version on the Simviation Scenery Download site.

Well I have done everything it asks and also did a redownload to make sure.

-Extracted to new folder and not to FSX
-It shows in the FSX Scenery Addons but when I try to install it in the Scenery Library it will not install.
-When I delete it I get a Scenery CFG Error in some location.

Not sure what I am doing wrong as I have done it the same way with the other scenery addons with no problem.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #1 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 7:47am

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Hmmm... I remember installing it once before I cleared out my FS, and I had got it in right, though I've never tried it. I'll re-download and see if I can figure it out. Wink

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Oooh... Whoops. Forgot how many downloads it was, and I don't have one of those "express memberships", so it may be about 2 hours or so before I get to it. Sad

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Reply #2 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 10:27am

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I think i might have found one part of the problem. What the heck happened to part four?!?
There's V2.0 (which replaces I), II, III, V, but no IV.

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Reply #3 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 11:15am

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I found it in the FlightSim File Library, along with Part V, "The North Pole".

The Readme for v2.0 says it replaces all previous versions, and that if you have a previous version you need to delete it.

Hope this Helps!

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Reply #4 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 1:04pm

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ViperPilot wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 11:15am:

I found it in the FlightSim File Library, along with Part V, "The North Pole".

The Readme for v2.0 says it replaces all previous versions, and that if you have a previous version you need to delete it.

Hope this Helps!

Alan

Ah! Thanks! Time to figure this stuff out again.

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Reply #5 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 1:42pm

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FOUND IT!!!
there are a few problems, which I found how to fix.

Make sure you have these:
1. In your FSX's addon scenery folder, there should be two new folders, "Snow Dog Tours", and "SDT_Object_Library"
2. In your FSX's Addon Scenery folder there should be a folder called "scenery", and another one called "texture". They should be empty and have nothing in it, unless you have specifically dragged and dropped stuff in, and if you have, just leave it there. These two folders are not inside any sub folder.

Here's what you do.
1. Go into both the SDT_Object_Library folder and the Snow Dog Tours folder's scenery folders, and copy every single file.
2. Paste them in the empty scenery folder I told you about above.
3. Go in the SDT_Object_Library's texture folder and copy every file.
4. Paste them in the empty texture folder I told you about above.
5. MOVE the SDT_Object_Library and Snow Dog Tours folders somewhere else like you desktop.
6. Start FSX.
7. Go to your scenery library, and make sure the "Addon Scenery" folder that is ALREADY IN THERE is checked.
8. Delete the scenery part that the installer put in called SDT_Object_Library.
9. Save the changes to your Scenery Library.
10. Close FSX.
11. Start FSX and let it build it's new scenery database.
12. Go to the airport in Anchorage called "Hood Lake"
13. If the install was successful, there should be something that looks like a metal fence in the shape of an L with a truck inside the L. If that's not there, the install probably didn't work right and let me know so I can try to figure it out.

Hope that helps!

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Reply #6 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 2:49pm

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Club508 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 1:42pm:

FOUND IT!!!
there are a few problems, which I found how to fix.

Make sure you have these:
1. In your FSX's addon scenery folder, there should be two new folders, "Snow Dog Tours", and "SDT_Object_Library"
2. In your FSX's Addon Scenery folder there should be a folder called "scenery", and another one called "texture". They should be empty and have nothing in it, unless you have specifically dragged and dropped stuff in, and if you have, just leave it there. These two folders are not inside any sub folder.

Here's what you do.
1. Go into both the SDT_Object_Library folder and the Snow Dog Tours folder's scenery folders, and copy every single file.
2. Paste them in the empty scenery folder I told you about above.
3. Go in the SDT_Object_Library's texture folder and copy every file.
4. Paste them in the empty texture folder I told you about above.
5. MOVE the SDT_Object_Library and Snow Dog Tours folders somewhere else like you desktop.
6. Start FSX.
7. Go to your scenery library, and make sure the "Addon Scenery" folder that is ALREADY IN THERE is checked.
8. Delete the scenery part that the installer put in called SDT_Object_Library.
9. Save the changes to your Scenery Library.
10. Close FSX.
11. Start FSX and let it build it's new scenery database.
12. Go to the airport in Anchorage called "Hood Lake"
13. If the install was successful, there should be something that looks like a metal fence in the shape of an L with a truck inside the L. If that's not there, the install probably didn't work right and let me know so I can try to figure it out.

Hope that helps!

Please explain to me the difference between what you suggest and simply verifying that "Snow Dog Tours", and "SDT_Object_Library" are both active in the Scenery Library?

What exactly does all the file movement fix?

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Reply #7 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 2:56pm

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JoBee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Please explain to me the difference between what you suggest and simply verifying that "Snow Dog Tours", and "SDT_Object_Library" are both active in the Scenery Library?
What exactly does all the file movement fix?

I quote his post:
Flying Trucker wrote on Dec 21^st, 2011 at 7:53pm:

-It shows in the FSX Scenery Addons but when I try to install it in the Scenery Library it will not install.

I even tried it myself, and it just wouldn't go in.
But by moving the files to an already active location, you don't have to worry about that. Since FSX hasn't registered the new files before, though they are acting like they are supposed to be there, it just make a new database accordingly, and runs as normal. Wink

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Simple programming and mathematics. You haven't changed the programming. You change the input, therefore you change the output.

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Reply #8 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 3:08pm

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Club508 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 2:56pm:

I even tried it myself, and it just wouldn't go in.

There has to be a reason for that. By doing what you suggest you risk a conflict between different versions of the same area.

Which version of the scenery are you having problems with?

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Reply #9 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 4:25pm

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Hagar wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 3:08pm:

Club508 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 2:56pm:

I even tried it myself, and it just wouldn't go in.

There has to be a reason for that. By doing what you suggest you risk a conflict between different versions of the same area.

Which version of the scenery are you having problems with?

?

Huh

This Snow dog tours (The V2.0) is the only scenery I've downloaded for FSX. And since the addon scenery's main scenery and texture folder are empty, there shouldn't be much chance of conflict I hope.

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Reply #10 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 4:39pm

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I think there's a simple explanation for your problem. If you installed the scenery manually or with the installer you should have a folder named Snow Dog Tours in your FSX\Addon Scenery directory. This contains 2 sub-folders named SDT_Object_Library & Ketchikan Alaska respectively. These are the folders that should be activated (in that order) from the FSX Scenery Library.

If you try activating the Snow Dog Tours folder it won't work.

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Reply #11 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 7:15pm

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Hi Doug...

I have the two folders alright but when I try to add them to the Scenery Library they will not take.

I tried to install the SDT Folder first but no go and the second folder the Snow Dog Tours Folder which has a scenery folder inside it will not install either.

Seems to me I had this problem once before.

Not sure why the Auto Installer will not do it automatically.

Thanks for the responses folks...

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #12 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 7:20pm

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Doug. If I recall correctly you're using Windows7. The procedure for activating scenery is slightly different. Check out this video. http://iblueyonder.com/video-tutorial-adding-scenery-to-fsx-in-windows-7/

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Reply #13 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 7:22pm

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You are right Doug and thanks for the Link...will take a look now... Wink

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Reply #14 - Dec 22^nd, 2011 at 8:12pm

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Thanks Doug that worked...

That Link should be posted somewhere if it is not already for all to use...

Now I just did a quick flight out of Ketchecan Alaska with the default Beaver.

I am getting black buildings with some good graphics on the boats, cargo and some ships.

My graphics card is a:
NVIDIA Ge Force GTX 580

I was just told that my graphics card is too far advanced for that program which is about two or three years old I think. (2008)

That does not make any sense to me but perhaps the person is right.

Any input would be most appreciated.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #15 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 4:09am

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Glad that fixed it Doug.

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Now I just did a quick flight out of Ketchecan Alaska with the default Beaver.

I am getting black buildings with some good graphics on the boats, cargo and some ships.

I doubt this has anything to do with your graphics card. Make sure you activated the SDT_Object_Library before any other MoCat scenery areas. It should be below other areas like Ketchikan Alaska on the Scenery Library list. This is how mine looks.

You can select an area & change the priority if necessary by using the Move Up or Move Down buttons.

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Reply #16 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 8:19am

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Thanks Doug...

My MoCat's Download looks just like yours in the Scenery Library.

Not sure why the buildings are showing up black.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #17 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 8:31am

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I've just downloaded Version 2.0 of the Snow Dog Tours scenery from here http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=1SDTV2&categoryId=&filename=Y
& replaced the original version I had installed. I should now have the same version as you. My Scenery Library list now looks like this.

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Not sure why the buildings are showing up black.

Look in the Texture sub-folder of the SDT_Object_Library. It should contain 608 BMP texture files.

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Reply #18 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 8:51am

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Okay Doug will take a look...

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #19 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 9:56am

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Okay Doug, now I have it up and working great, the graphics and scenery but now there is another snag.

I can not get the menu bar to show at the top of the flight screen nor does the pause bar show.

It worked before I installed this but neither will show even in a default flight.

Egads...what have I done now???? Grin

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Reply #20 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 10:30am

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If you're in Full Screen mode press Alt to display the inflight menu bar. Alt + Enter toggles between Full Screen & Windowed mode.

Not sure what you mean by pause bar?

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Reply #21 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 11:20am

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Hagar wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 10:30am:

If you're in Full Screen mode press Alt to display the inflight menu bar. Alt + Enter toggles between Full Screen & Windowed mode.

Not sure what you mean by pause bar?

I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
And by pause bar, I think he means the red thing that flashes on and off when the game is paused in the bottom left hand corner letting you know the game is paused.

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Reply #22 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 4:03pm

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Okay I have had it with FSX and Windows 7... Lips Sealed

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You were correct Club508 in your last post.

What I did to get back my Menu and Pause Line when in simulated flight was to do a System Restore.

It worked, they both show while in simulated flight.

However:

I lost the most recent download which took hours to get to go into the Scenery Library...MoCats Snow Dog Tours.

I extracted to a separate folder and not directly to FSX.

Snow Dog Tours shows in FSX Addons Okay.

I have followed the Link many many many times that Doug "Hagar" supplied to do Scenery Library Addons with Windows 7 but the two "SDT Object Library" and "Snow Dog Tours" will not show up in the Scenery Library no matter what I do.

I go to:
Settings
Scenery Library
Addons
Snow Dog Tours
SDT and bring up the two in that folder
---Click in the white area...tried both left and right mouse
buttons....
---Click Okay

Nothing happens... Angry

Angry

I tried the same with Snow Dog Tours and nothing...

I think it was just by luck I got it installed this morning...

Not sure what is wrong but this electronic gadget is getting real close to the river... Lips Sealed

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Reply #23 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 4:20pm

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Time to have a break Doug. I'm not sure what you've done but I think you're getting confused. That's easily done with the way this particular addon is configured. When you've calmed down a bit I'll try to walk you through it.

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Reply #24 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 5:20pm

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Thanks Doug...real aircraft are so much easier... Grin

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I now have it installed after all that rambling on...

The two items in the SDT Folder and I think one was scenery if I remember right.

Well...I clicked on it and then brought the little menu down at the top which shows:
Microsoft Games
FSX
ADDONS
Snow Dog Tours
SDT.....
Scenery

I clicked on Scenery and OK and the darn thing installed...

Now I need a drink...so do you probably... Grin

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...after reading my ramble...

If I was seventy years younger I think I would take a electronic gizmo course... Wink

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The old girl just told me it was not this computer but me.... Huh

Huh

I am going to take her Christmas Bloomers I bought for her Christmas Gift and get her a lump of coal... Grin

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Now I need a drink...

Thanks Doug and everyone else for your time and patience, going to do a defrag now...

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #25 - Dec 28^th, 2011 at 5:08pm

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doug:what you said doesn't work for me.
i have it activated.
and in the right order...
but it doesn't show up ingame...

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Reply #26 - Dec 28^th, 2011 at 7:15pm

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Hi jetprop...

Not sure I can help.

Are you using Windows 7?

If you are look at the link Doug "Hagar" posted in this topic, it is a good tutorial.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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jetprop wrote on Dec 28^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

doug:what you said doesn't work for me.
i have it activated.
and in the right order...
but it doesn't show up ingame...

If you installed & activated it successfully it will work. The Snow Dog Tours scenery adds or modifies 139 airports and seaplane bases. Which ones have you tried?

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Reply #28 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:26am

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Hagar wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 3:55am:

jetprop wrote on Dec 28^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

doug:what you said doesn't work for me.
i have it activated.
and in the right order...
but it doesn't show up ingame...

If you installed & activated it successfully it will work. The Snow Dog Tours scenery adds or modifies 139 airports and seaplane bases. Which ones have you tried?

hook head and the one you said +some others but its still all default. Huh

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Reply #29 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:39am

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jetprop wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:26am:

Hagar wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 3:55am:

jetprop wrote on Dec 28^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

doug:what you said doesn't work for me.
i have it activated.
and in the right order...
but it doesn't show up ingame...

If you installed & activated it successfully it will work. The Snow Dog Tours scenery adds or modifies 139 airports and seaplane bases. Which ones have you tried?

hook head and the one you said +some others but its still all default. Huh

Huh

Hook Head is not listed in the Readme. Which version of the Snow Dog Tours scenery are you trying to install?

I can't find it in the FSX default scenery either. Huh

Huh

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Reply #30 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 6:29am

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oops,that was something from geography. Cheesy

Cheesy

(headland in ireland.)
but i did ketchican harbor,and that IS listed...

its part 3 i am trying to install...

i think i know the problem.
i think there was a mistake in the list in the download.

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Reply #31 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 7:21am

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jetprop wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 6:29am:

its part 3 i am trying to install...

i think i know the problem.
i think there was a mistake in the list in the download.

This is the list for Snow Dog Tours III copied from the Readme. Ketchikan is not on it.

The Sceneries:

After installation, the following Airports are Modified:

1. PABR - Wiley Post - Will Rogers Memorial

2. 2AKE - Icy Cape AFS

3. PASC - Deadhorse

4. PAUM - Umiat

5. PARC - Artic Village

6. PABT - Bettles

7. WBQ - Beaver

8. PAEA - Eagle

9. 9AK4 - Artic Angel

10. 16z - McGrath

11. UMM - Summit

12. AK06 - Denali

13. PAIN - McKinley National Park

14. RDV - Red Devil

15. PANI - Anaik

16. PACL - Clear

17. PAVD - Pioneer Valdez

18. PAGK - Gulkana

19. DDT - Duffy's Tavern

20. 15z - McCarthy

21. PAFA - Fairbanks International

22. PANC - Stevens Anchorage International

23. PAUO - Willow

24. PAAQ - Palmer Municipal

25. PAWD - Seward

26. PAHO - Homer

27. PAKN - King Salmon

28. PADQ - Kodiak

29. PACv - Cordova - Smith

30. PAMD - Middleton Island

31. PATK - Talkeenta

32. PAEN - Kenai Mun.

the following SeaPlane bases are included:

01. 1Z9 - Ellamar

02. PYL - Perry Island

03. 52Z - Summit Lake

04. A27 - Seldovia

05. PAEN - Kenai Mun.

06. ALZ - Alitak

07. KOY - Olga Bay

08. AK81 - Amook Bay

09. WSJ - San Juan

10. 5Z9 - Lake Brooks

11. PAFA- Fairbanks

12. PANC- Anchorage

13. 5BL - Homer - Beluga Lake

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i tried some of them.
not working. Sad

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but i do get 2 error messages when i start the sim up...
its sais something about scenery cfg:couldn't find area ___

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jetprop wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 12:08pm:

i tried some of them.
not working. Sad

Sad

but i do get 2 error messages when i start the sim up...
its sais something about scenery cfg:couldn't find area ___

From the error message I suspect you deleted files from the Addon Scenery folder before deleting them from the Scenery Library. Take a note of the exact wording of the errors & post them here.

Is this the first time you've tried adding 3rd party scenery to FSX?

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Hagar wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 12:23pm:

jetprop wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 12:08pm:

i tried some of them.
not working. Sad

Sad

but i do get 2 error messages when i start the sim up...
its sais something about scenery cfg:couldn't find area ___

From the error message I suspect you deleted files from the Addon Scenery folder before deleting them from the Scenery Library. Take a note of the exact wording of the errors & post them here.

Is this the first time you've tried adding 3rd party scenery to FSX?

no,i am quite experienced with scenery.
this is the first time this happened.
and i didn't remove anything???

i am reinstalling it.(snow dog)
i think i messed it up somehow.

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Reply #35 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 1:29pm

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sorry for double post but:
i was talking about the wrong download,i mean this one: http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=FSX+Snow+Dog+Tours+version.+2.0...

i chose the right area+i installed it right but it doesn't show up...

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jetprop wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 1:29pm:

sorry for double post but:
i was talking about the wrong download,i mean this one: http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=FSX+Snow+Dog+Tours+version.+2.0...

Ok, I'm glad we've finally decided on that.

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i chose the right area+i installed it right but it doesn't show up...

If you're certain it's installed & activated properly there's no reason why it won't show up. Perhaps your scenery complexity settings need tweaking.

I don't know what you're expecting to see. This is what the Ketchikan Harbor seaplane base looks like from the air in my FSX on the Dense setting.

This is the start point of the SE water runway.

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Reply #37 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 3:42pm

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i'm expecting to see some seaplane ramps,but i'll see
if its the settings.

IT WORKED!
thanks for that. Wink

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Reply #38 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 5:16pm

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jetprop wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 3:42pm:

i'm expecting to see some seaplane ramps,but i'll see
if its the settings.

IT WORKED!
thanks for that. Wink

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We usually get there in the end. Smiley

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