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Dec 1st, 2011 at 4:22pm

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Done a search and couldn't find an answer'

I dusted off an old X45 stick and it ran OK without the saitek drivers but I had no control over the sensitivities so I installed the saitek drivers (from their site). Now the throttle only gives about half power in FSX....it seems OK in stick properties and callibrates OK but no joy flying.

Running XP 32bit. FSX SP1 and 2

If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated Smiley
 
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Reply #1 - Dec 2nd, 2011 at 7:19pm

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This is the stick that I use regularly.
I never installed the drivers, and use the windows calibration tool for generic flight sticks, and seems to work ok.
If the driver software didn't help, and windows default doesn't help, either, then maybe the sensitivities can be calibrated in your sim...
Hope this helps...
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 3rd, 2011 at 7:44am

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Thanks Speed,
  I guess I'll have to go back to the windows default drivers, at least they worked even though adjusting the sensitivities in game didn't work. A real pain for the tail draggers on the ground, the rudder seems way to lively..... elevator at lower speeds seems a bit twitchy too.

As an aside (while you're here) the centering spring has always been to strong on my x45, I've got 3 nylon cable ties that pinch 2 of the coils together. This helps although not ideal........any other tips for this issue?
 
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Reply #3 - Dec 3rd, 2011 at 12:38pm

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I use the X-45 in both FS9 and FSX, default drivers. I've not had any problems using the in game control settings to calibrate, assign or adjust sensitivity. Are the sensitivity sliders not available, or do changes just have no effect?

The X-45 spring: the remedy that I used (1 of several found on the web, including your
tie method), was to shorten the spring.  I cut turns off from the TOP of the spring. Don't recall how many I removed, but I have 4 1/4 turns including the bottom 'flat' turn. Now have near zero tension when centered. Though it was suggested to disassemble the stick to trim spring I just held the spring with a small pliers and cut it with a Dremel.

Also keep the centering disc clean and lubed. I found candle wax to be the best and longest lasting. Clean and rub wax on the centering ring and disc and the center post that the disc slides on.

Never did like the X-45 rudder, so repurposed an old joystick as a 'T' bar rudder.
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Rudder assigned to Y axis, controlled using downward toe pressure.   
 

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Reply #4 - Dec 4th, 2011 at 7:01am

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Nice idea for the spring and lubricant, I'll give it a go.

I do have the sliders for the sensitivity, the just don't have any effect. Sad

Really like youre makeshift rudder bar, great inovation. I have a spare stick and a workshop, I may even have some spare time come the christmas break...Perhaps I'll remove one of the pots and mount it in a custom box......you really got me thinking now Cool
 
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Reply #5 - Dec 4th, 2011 at 12:47pm

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I do have the sliders for the sensitivity, the just don't have any effect.


My 1st thought is....do you have the right device selected and are the sliders for 'normal' mode, not 'slew' mode?
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 5th, 2011 at 9:10am

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More issues with the saitek drivers, the input from the stick now has about 1 second lag  Shocked    So I've removed them. I'm now back on windows default drivers and I seem to have gained some sensitivity adjustment, not much but maybe enough.

The x45 has been in a cupboard for 5 yrs, I don't remember having problems with it before......oh well, working reasonably well now.

Thanks for your help guys Smiley
 
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Reply #7 - Dec 5th, 2011 at 8:02pm

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G.K. wrote on Dec 3rd, 2011 at 7:44am:
As an aside (while you're here) the centering spring has always been to strong on my x45, I've got 3 nylon cable ties that pinch 2 of the coils together. This helps although not ideal........any other tips for this issue?


Oh my. I would have thought that was an original idea, for sure. Same problem, and same solution. I put black ties on mine. 3 of em. wierd...

Funny how that worked, just wanted to point that out...

I don't know about the candle wax idea, and hadn't thought of that. Sounds good. I was using a liquid graphite paste on mine, and it seems to work, but that may even be better (and surely cheaper).
 

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