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Operation "Lucky Fish Wash" (Read 1344 times)
Nov 17th, 2011 at 4:20pm

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An electromagnetic pulse (sometimes abbreviated EMP) is a burst of electromagnetic radiation. The abrupt pulse of electromagnetic radiation usually results from certain types of high energy explosions, especially a nuclear explosion, or from a suddenly fluctuating magnetic field. The resulting rapidly changing electric fields and magnetic fields may couple with electrical/electronic systems to produce damaging current and voltage surges. In military terminology, a nuclear bomb detonated hundreds of kilometers above the Earth's surface is known as a high-altitude electromagnetic pulse (HEMP) device.
EMP has been dubbed a "weapon of mass disruption" because of its ability to devastate its target by disrupting electronic infrastructure..

Will you be flying in Operation "Lucky Fish Wash"????

Soon in a sim near you...... Shocked
 

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Reply #1 - Nov 18th, 2011 at 7:39pm

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Huh? Huh

Beside the explanation of what an EMP is and the not quite complete conclusions, what has high altitude nuclear explosions (that it's had to be so powerful to be capable of untold ecological disasters to be really effective in producing an EMP field wide enough to be a real widespread menace... maybe a Tsar Bomba at full 108Mton blast power could, but if that happened, the LAST of the problems would be the EMP, and a lot of people would try and find some hemp maybe, but under the form of rope to make the passage to the next life quick and avoid the bother of suffering radiation and fallout poisoning) anything to do with washing fishes, that being waterborne creatures wash themselves quite well without outside intervention? Grin

Another FSX mission? Smiley
 

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Reply #2 - Nov 18th, 2011 at 10:21pm

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Strategic Retreat wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 7:39pm:
Huh? Huh

Beside the explanation of what an EMP is and the not quite complete conclusions, what has high altitude nuclear explosions (that it's had to be so powerful to be capable of untold ecological disasters to be really effective in producing an EMP field wide enough to be a real widespread menace... maybe a Tsar Bomba at full 108Mton blast power could, but if that happened, the LAST of the problems would be the EMP, and a lot of people would try and find some hemp maybe, but under the form of rope to make the passage to the next life quick and avoid the bother of suffering radiation and fallout poisoning)


Actually pretty much all of the US military's nuclear weapons can produce devastating EMP blasts that far out reach the physical effects of the bomb (like heat wave and pressure wave). The radiation could obviously pose a massive problem, but that is dependent on environmental conditions. That said, if you doubt the effects of a mass EMP detonation, imagine with no warning ALL your electronic devices fail. No phones, no cars, no internet, water system would fail, sewer system will fail, hospital equipment useless, food production useless. So everyone in the cities and built up areas will probably die. One report from Aviation Week indicated that one of our warheads detonated at the optimum altitude could create an EMP blast wave that could take out about 1/3 of the eastern half of the US. Thats a whole lot of people in danger. Remember the New York black outs? Childs play. Plus an EMP damages hardware, only replaces affected circuits will make devices work again. Plus with the way our power grid is put together, a major EMP blast would cause a devastating domino affect spreading power outages past the blast radius of the EMP.
 

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Reply #3 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:31am

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wahubna wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 10:21pm:
...if you doubt...


I do not doubt. I KNOW the effects of EMP.

What I doubt is the actual power of the bomb, traditional kind of bomb I mean, needed to obtain the depicted effects.

If a nuclear device has been made that it supplies only a vast quantity of EMP so not to need yields on the tens of megatons range, perhaps with a lensing system to focus EMP effects on a particular place and with reduced fallout, I, obviously, do not know (and those who maybe could know, would be under bloodthirsty oaths to keep their mouths shut), but a thing is sure, the environmental mess resulting in using a traditional nuclear device BESIDE the EMP primary effects WOULD end up biting in the ass the launcher too, since the detonation would have to happen in a sub-orbital region, where high speed winds would end up distributing the fallout for more than half the planet...

It'd be a tad too stupid a weapon, in my humble opinion. One of those who cut both sides.

Not that some [crap]head would not try and project one... humans being what they are... simply a stupid weapon remains a stupid weapon, no matter who builds it. Amen.

And now that this is cleared... is it a mission or what, the one where you must wash those fishes? Huh Wink
 

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Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 11:46am

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Strategic Retreat wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:31am:
Not that some [crap]head would not try and project one... humans being what they are... simply a stupid weapon remains a stupid weapon, no matter who builds it. Amen.

And now that this is cleared... is it a mission or what, the one where you must wash those fishes? Huh Wink


Mutant fishes....think Godzilla..lol
 

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Reply #5 - Nov 23rd, 2011 at 10:31am

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Yep.....its the beginning of a Mission still half way through...an EMP explosion would be devastating specially in countries with total dependency on electrical grids...by the way the sun could do that too.
 

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Reply #6 - Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:44am

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Solid wrote on Nov 23rd, 2011 at 10:31am:
...by the way the sun could do that too.


A solar flare so powerful to knock out the power grids on the ground even for a little while would deep fry all the exposed comm and global positioning satellites into silicon based lumps aimlessly orbiting the planet. Let's just hope it won't happen. Sad
 

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Reply #7 - Nov 27th, 2011 at 7:38pm

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Not to mentuion fry away our ozone.  And us. Shocked
Just out of curiosity, what effect would an EMP blast have on a human?
 

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Reply #8 - Nov 27th, 2011 at 7:47pm

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Club508 wrote on Nov 27th, 2011 at 7:38pm:
Not to mentuion fry away our ozone.  And us. Shocked
Just out of curiosity, what effect would an EMP blast have on a human?



Unless it was extremely intense not much, unless you have a pacemaker.
 

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Reply #9 - Nov 27th, 2011 at 7:56pm

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Boikat wrote on Nov 27th, 2011 at 7:47pm:
Club508 wrote on Nov 27th, 2011 at 7:38pm:
Not to mentuion fry away our ozone.  And us. Shocked
Just out of curiosity, what effect would an EMP blast have on a human?

Unless it was extremely intense not much, unless you have a pacemaker.

Really?  I'd think it would atleast mess with the brain and it's electrical systems woundn't it?
 

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Reply #10 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 12:09am

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Club508 wrote on Nov 27th, 2011 at 7:56pm:
Boikat wrote on Nov 27th, 2011 at 7:47pm:
Club508 wrote on Nov 27th, 2011 at 7:38pm:
Not to mentuion fry away our ozone.  And us. Shocked
Just out of curiosity, what effect would an EMP blast have on a human?

Unless it was extremely intense not much, unless you have a pacemaker.

Really?  I'd think it would atleast mess with the brain and it's electrical systems woundn't it?


No, an EMP has no effect on the human body. The US military is working on a non-nuclear EMP, and if they can get it up to the effect of a nuclear detonation, that would be quite an effective weapon without the fallout of a nuke.
On a side-note, you would not need a Tsar-Bomba-sized weapon to affect a very large area, with a MIRV warhead you could potentially detonate a dozen 500+ kt warheads over a wide area.
 

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Reply #11 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 1:21am
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Maybe the world should hire more electrical and electronic engineers to mitigate this and uhm.. pay them a lot to make sure the job gets done.

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Reply #12 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 7:54am

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RaptorF22 wrote on Nov 28th, 2011 at 12:09am:
On a side-note, you would not need a Tsar-Bomba-sized weapon to affect a very large area, with a MIRV warhead you could potentially detonate a dozen 500+ kt warheads over a wide area.


Please detail us the difference in radiation pollution and spreading of fallout this choice would entail. Huh

It'd be simply dividing the power of a single Tsar Bomba over a spread of lesser devices. No net difference to speak of, in the end. Tongue

As about a non nuclear system to produce an EMP... in a lab is quite possible, but you need an huge expenditure of energy to cover an area of less than 500 squared meters. Can't see them managing an effective weapon anytime soon (unless they can put their hands on some antimatter, that is, metaphorically speaking). Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #13 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 8:50am

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Strategic Retreat wrote on Nov 28th, 2011 at 7:54am:
RaptorF22 wrote on Nov 28th, 2011 at 12:09am:
On a side-note, you would not need a Tsar-Bomba-sized weapon to affect a very large area, with a MIRV warhead you could potentially detonate a dozen 500+ kt warheads over a wide area.


Please detail us the difference in radiation pollution and spreading of fallout this choice would entail. Huh

It'd be simply dividing the power of a single Tsar Bomba over a spread of lesser devices. No net difference to speak of, in the end. Tongue

As about a non nuclear system to produce an EMP... in a lab is quite possible, but you need an huge expenditure of energy to cover an area of less than 500 squared meters. Can't see them managing an effective weapon anytime soon (unless they can put their hands on some antimatter, that is, metaphorically speaking). Roll Eyes


As for the MIRV, I'm not talking about lessening fallout, I'm talking about the practicality of the weapon. A Tsar Bomba-sized weapon would require something like a Delta IV Heavy to get it to its target, whereas the MIRV bus with 12 warheads would be a more efficient use of the total power of the weapon and can be delivered by a Trident II SLBM.
 

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Reply #14 - Nov 30th, 2011 at 4:39pm

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With today´s technology an EMP bomb can be made the size of a card table!!!!!....This is a very, very dangerous device....be on the lookout of the Mission.....you will have to stop it in midair!!!!!!!!!!!!! before detonation or....... Cry Cry Cry
 

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