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Oct 25^th, 2011 at 1:23pm

hhomebrewer Offline
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Haven't fired up FS in a long, long time. Just tried it. Seemed to start normally. Then when it got to the screen that has you select which aircraft, et cetera, it flickered like crazy against a black background. I have been using FS2004 for maybe five years. I have never seen this before, even after having the machine off and/or unplugged for days and days. What is the problem? Thanks...

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Reply #1 - Oct 25^th, 2011 at 4:23pm

Fozzer Offline
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Brewer....

...!

Have you tried shutting the Sim down, letting it cool off, then restarting it again....

..or...

Shutting the whole computer down, waiting for a while, restarting it, and reloading the Sim again...?

Sometimes, things get confused and corrupted...

Paul...I get confused sometimes...but never corrupted.. Cool

Cool

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Reply #2 - Oct 25^th, 2011 at 8:09pm

Capt.Propwash Offline
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were you just gone for a week's vacation??

check video card driver.

check to see if vid card is securely seated on the motherboard. It might have become a 3yr old kid that likes to jump around.

did you install any new scenery? aircraft? textures? ..... addons at all ?

although unlikely, has there been any recent thunderstorms in your area lately?

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Reply #3 - Oct 25^th, 2011 at 10:00pm

hhomebrewer Offline
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Nothing substantive has been changed in months and months on this computer. Video is flawless in every other application. I saw this phenomenon today when I started FS for the first time in many, many weeks. I have tried to pull out of the flickering sim, but I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Del and actually log-out of Windows 7 to get away from it. I NEVER log-off of this computer. I'm the only user; no reason to do so. Flummoxed...

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Reply #4 - Oct 25^th, 2011 at 11:43pm

Capt.Propwash Offline
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when was the last time you opened up the case (if able) and took a good can or 4 of air to it?

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Reply #5 - Oct 26^th, 2011 at 3:02am

Fozzer Offline
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...just as an aside, Brewer... Wink

Wink

....
To exit from a troublesome program, do a Ctrl+ Alt+Delete like you did, Task Manager, select FS9.exe (or whatever) and select "End Process". This should take you back to the Desktop.
This will save you from Logging out of Windows, which I never do....I'm the only User as well!.... Wink

Wink

...!
As for the FS9 screen flickering, I am stumped on that one for the mo'... Cry

Cry

...
It seems like the Sim is trying to perform two different operations (alternately) at the same time!

Paul.

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Reply #6 - Oct 26^th, 2011 at 1:39pm

hhomebrewer Offline
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I think I have figgered it out. The 28-inch monitor referenced below took a dump. It is an HDMI interface kind o' thing. I am back to using my old 22-inch Westin'house, which I think uses an SVGA interface. I have not tried to adjust the monitor yet; just came to me as I was turning the thing off last night. I have been at work all night. Must go to bed. Exhausted beyond words...

I am homebrewer. I had 633 posts when for some unknown reason, my account disappeared...
AMD Phenom II X4 940 (Deneb), Asus M3N72-D motherboard, 2 x nVidia 8800GTS @640MB RAM, 1 x Seagate Barracuda 500Gb HDD (storage), 1 x Western Digital Black 250Gb HDD (boot), 12Gb 800Mhz G.Skill RAM (5-5-5-18), 2x Sony DVD writers, 28-inch ViewSonic monitor given to me by my computer guru, FS2004, Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), 850-watt Thermaltake modular p/s, 7 x 120mm fans to cool it...

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Reply #7 - Oct 27^th, 2011 at 9:44pm

hhomebrewer Offline
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hhomebrewer wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 1:39pm:

I am back to using my old 22-inch Westin'house, which I think uses an SVGA interface...

I recall now that this older monitor is a DVI interface. I tried fiddling with the buttons on the back. Pretty sure I am using the correct cable. Fiddled and no luck. Still flickering. The screen is black, except for the window in which you select the airplane. The window within the window where the airplane revolves is black. I'm gettin' nowhere. Do not want to install again because I am afraid I will have to install all my add-on scenery again, right? Hope not. Takes an eon. Frustrating...

I am homebrewer. I had 633 posts when for some unknown reason, my account disappeared...
AMD Phenom II X4 940 (Deneb), Asus M3N72-D motherboard, 2 x nVidia 8800GTS @640MB RAM, 1 x Seagate Barracuda 500Gb HDD (storage), 1 x Western Digital Black 250Gb HDD (boot), 12Gb 800Mhz G.Skill RAM (5-5-5-18), 2x Sony DVD writers, 28-inch ViewSonic monitor given to me by my computer guru, FS2004, Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), 850-watt Thermaltake modular p/s, 7 x 120mm fans to cool it...

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Reply #8 - Oct 28^th, 2011 at 3:57am

Fozzer Offline
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Hello Brewer... Wink

Wink

...

As you only seem to get the problem when it comes to the "Aircraft Selection" screen, I am wondering if you have a dodgy aircraft in your latest default preference, loading screen.
Have you tried deleting your fs9.cfg File, and letting it build a new one on start-up, with the default FS9 Default Aircraft, etc, displayed?
You may have a incompatible aircraft in your hangar which is causing problems on loading?

Paul....

...!

Windows 7:
C > Users > You! > App Data > Roaming > Microsoft > FS9 > fs9.cfg

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Reply #9 - Oct 28^th, 2011 at 9:55am

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You know mine does this, but only when i use the 'command' key to return to the desktop (Imac) when i click on fs9 to go back to it i often just get the aircraft rotating round in the box without the blue aircraft selection, weather selection and so on showing.

If i click on anything it corrupts it even more and leaves 'traces' of itself all over the screen.

Only solution is to reboot fs9 i find. However, if i dont use the command key all is well, so it might be a Imac versus windows 7 problem rather than a screen/graphics card/ or anything else failure. But my Hard Drive is failing so i guess that wont be helping matters!

Im running a Radeon X1600 thingy-ma-bob.

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Reply #10 - Oct 29^th, 2011 at 10:57pm

hhomebrewer Offline
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Fozzer wrote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 3:57am:

Have you tried deleting your fs9.cfg file, and letting it build a new one on start-up, with the default FS9 Default Aircraft, etc, displayed? You may have a incompatible aircraft in your hangar which is causing problems on loading?

Windows 7:
C > Users > You! > App Data > Roaming > Microsoft > FS9 > fs9.cfg

No, Fozz, I've done none of that. Something about deleting the fs9.cfg file scares the willy off me. Everything worked super-fine until I radioed Center and got clearance to fire up FS9 with this older monitor. Now I'm running on one cylinder and lookin' for a big field with no cows or stone fences to complicate matters. I think I'll just hit the silk and let it auger in on its own...

I am homebrewer. I had 633 posts when for some unknown reason, my account disappeared...
AMD Phenom II X4 940 (Deneb), Asus M3N72-D motherboard, 2 x nVidia 8800GTS @640MB RAM, 1 x Seagate Barracuda 500Gb HDD (storage), 1 x Western Digital Black 250Gb HDD (boot), 12Gb 800Mhz G.Skill RAM (5-5-5-18), 2x Sony DVD writers, 28-inch ViewSonic monitor given to me by my computer guru, FS2004, Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), 850-watt Thermaltake modular p/s, 7 x 120mm fans to cool it...

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Reply #11 - Oct 30^th, 2011 at 1:17am

Fozzer Offline
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hhomebrewer wrote on Oct 29^th, 2011 at 10:57pm:

Fozzer wrote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 3:57am:

Have you tried deleting your fs9.cfg file, and letting it build a new one on start-up, with the default FS9 Default Aircraft, etc, displayed? You may have a incompatible aircraft in your hangar which is causing problems on loading?

Windows 7:
C > Users > You! > App Data > Roaming > Microsoft > FS9 > fs9.cfg

No, Fozz, I've done none of that. Something about deleting the fs9.cfg file scares the willy off me. Everything worked super-fine until I radioed Center and got clearance to fire up FS9 with this older monitor. Now I'm running on one cylinder and lookin' for a big field with no cows or stone fences to complicate matters. I think I'll just hit the silk and let it auger in on its own...

Hello Brewer...

...

That sounds like as good an idea as any.... Wink

Wink

...!

In a crisis...jump out!... Smiley

...!

Paul.... Grin

Grin

...

Grin

...!

...looks like more experimentation required... Wink

Wink

...!

P.S... If your plane hits one of those Cows, ship me over a nice Beef Steak... Wink

Wink

...

Wink

...!

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Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.

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Reply #12 - Oct 30^th, 2011 at 2:40pm

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I also think deleting the fs9.cfg file is a good idea. But, you don't need to actually trash it. Just renaming the file to fs9.cfg.backup (for example) will do the same thing. If nothing changes after running FS9, then delete the new fs9.cfg and rename the original .cfg file.

Within the fs9.cfg file is a description of your graphics card and the display resolution. I'm just guessing on this, but if the resolution listed is for your previous monitor, there may be a conflict with the monitor you're now using.

Give it a try.

Regards,
JerryH

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Reply #13 - Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 9:17pm

hhomebrewer Offline
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JerryH wrote on Oct 30^th, 2011 at 2:40pm:

Within the fs9.cfg file is a description of your graphics card and the display resolution. I'm just guessing on this, but if the resolution listed is for your previous monitor, there may be a conflict with the monitor you're now using.

That's certainly possible. I don't remember the resolution of either monitor, but I do know I ran them at maximum-- or as close to maximum as would work. It's been so long since I fooled wit this thing, I don't even remeber how to set it...

I am homebrewer. I had 633 posts when for some unknown reason, my account disappeared...
AMD Phenom II X4 940 (Deneb), Asus M3N72-D motherboard, 2 x nVidia 8800GTS @640MB RAM, 1 x Seagate Barracuda 500Gb HDD (storage), 1 x Western Digital Black 250Gb HDD (boot), 12Gb 800Mhz G.Skill RAM (5-5-5-18), 2x Sony DVD writers, 28-inch ViewSonic monitor given to me by my computer guru, FS2004, Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), 850-watt Thermaltake modular p/s, 7 x 120mm fans to cool it...

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Reply #14 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 5:55am

Fozzer Offline
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Hello Brewer...

...!

I would still recommend having a go at deleting/renaming your fs9.cfg "Notepad" File, as suggested above....

Windows 7:
C > Users > You! > App Data > Roaming > Microsoft > FS9 > fs9.cfg

This will start the Sim again in its original default set-up again when you fire it up....
..it automatically builds a NEW fs9.cfg file for you!
It puts the default aircraft, your present hardware details, etc, back in place when you start up.....
...then once its up and running successfully, you can start looking for problems elsewhere, if they exist... Wink

Wink

...!

Give it a go..Brewer...nothing to lose, and if you just "renamed" the fs9.cfg File, (Original fs9.cfg) you can always return it again if you wish...

...!

eg:
fs9.cfg (new rebuilt file!).
Original fs9.cfg (old one). It will ignore this one because of the word "Original" inserted!

Paul.....

...!

Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.

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