Simviation Forum - Reverser spray add on

Oct 18^th, 2011 at 6:18am

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Does anybody has this add on installed on a 737?
its a great add on,i got it installed on the a340 and 747 but i dont know how to get it to work in the 737.
How dont know what to put on the aircraft.cfg the part that says the [smokesystem]
heres a exemple for the b747:

E.g for the POSKY 747 v4:

[SMOKESYSTEM]
smoke.0 = -18.030, -106.400, -70.083333, Opensky_revspray
smoke.1 = -18.030, -76.300, -40.916667, Opensky_revspray
smoke.2 = -18.030, -76.300, 40.916667, Opensky_revspray
smoke.3 = -18.030, -106.400, 70.083333, Opensky_revspray

now i need the one for the 737,if someone knows let me know please.

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Reply #1 - Oct 19^th, 2011 at 6:23am

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anybody?

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Reply #2 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 3:37pm

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You will have to play around with those numbers to get them to line up correctly for the 737_400. it does not have 4 engines like the 747-400 has.

which POSKY did you get that had those effects on it? Link would be nice. I'll go download it, and fix it up for you, and then come back here and give you the entry to put in your 737

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Reply #3 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 5:15pm

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i got that add on to work on the commercial level simulation a340 and the posky 747
Im trying to get this to work on the 737 sky deck but i dont know how to play around with those numbers at all.
Do you need the link for the reverse sprayed add on?
if you could help would be great

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Reply #4 - Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 10:16pm

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yes please. the link to the spray would be a great help.

if i am not mistaken, this is what the numbers mean:

think of a giant box around your aircraft. in the middle of that box is your plane. at the dead center of the plane is an imaginary dot. the CENTRAL DATUM POINT.

from said point are 3 axis' .... LEFT / RIGHT. UP/DOWN. FORWARD/REAR

Negative number = left.... positive = right, Negative = Rear ... Positive = Forward, Negative=DOWN .. Positive = UP

so in your 3 dimensional box... fx_spray_fx #1 for the left engine looking from the rear.... would be something like...

[SMOKESYSTEM]
smoke.0 = -18.030, -106.400, -70.083333, Opensky_revspray
Left REAR DOWN

This is how you play with the numbers to get your Effects to show up properly (dont use those numbers cause those are for your 747 !!!!! )

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Reply #5 - Oct 24^th, 2011 at 4:12am

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Good overview, Prop.

There is unfortunately a ~~bug~~ feature in FS9 as there was in FS8 where the vertical location in the [smokesystem] entry is ignored by FS. So it doesn't matter what figure you put in the third location, it is ignored. You therefore have to change the vertical location of the effect in the .fx file itself by using the Y offset parameter.

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Reply #6 - Oct 25^th, 2011 at 9:43am

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I've never had a problem setting up smoke in FS9...the vertical figures work fine

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Reply #7 - Oct 25^th, 2011 at 4:16pm

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Hi Garry.

That's certainly my experience, in both FS8 and FS9. I haven't yet looked at it in FSX in any detail (I've continued to use the FS9 philosophy of amending the Y offset in the fx file) but it may have been corrected there. M$ took the time to correct an anomaly with the [smokesystem] numbering in FSX. Up to FS9, the three location numbers in the smokesystem are not lateral/longitudinal/vertical as they are with the lights, fuel tanks, engine locations etc (and as indicated above), but vertical/longitudinal/lateral - in other words in the FS9 smokesystem, the first figure is the vertical component, not the third (my error above; I meant the first component in FS9, not the third). In FSX this has been corrected to be the same as the others mentioned.

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Reply #8 - Oct 26^th, 2011 at 8:52am

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microlight wrote on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 4:12am:

Good overview, Prop.

There is unfortunately a ~~bug~~ feature in FS9 as there was in FS8 where the vertical location in the [smokesystem] entry is ignored by FS. So it doesn't matter what figure you put in the third location, it is ignored. You therefore have to change the vertical location of the effect in the .fx file itself by using the Y offset parameter.

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It's been a while, but if memory serves, the bug you're referring to usually only happens when a position is predefined in the .fx file. If the coordinants in the .fx file are generic (i.e. all zeros) the standard placing coordinants in the aircraft.cfg usually work fine. Wink

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Reply #9 - Oct 26^th, 2011 at 9:47am

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That would account for why I've never had an issue becuse the only smoke system settings I've ever done were for my own projects

So it seems it does work but if a .fx file has any value other than zero it overrules the .cfg?

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Reply #10 - Oct 26^th, 2011 at 9:51am

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Again, it's been a while... but that's seemed to be the general rule.

Edit*
Nope, I was wrong. All this talk poked me to try it out with one of my fire effects. There is more to it than I remember. Having the same verticle translation issue.

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Reply #11 - Oct 26^th, 2011 at 10:13am

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Many thanks for this - very useful information. Unfortunately, a lot of my effects are multiple, so at least one usually has a positional element to it...

Good to know though.

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Reply #12 - Oct 28^th, 2011 at 5:56pm

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Heres the link where i downloaded the add on.

http://www.avsimrus.com/files.phtml?search=reversed+spray&sopt_mode=or&folder=0&...

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