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Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:12pm

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Fozzer wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 4:30pm:
When it comes to On-line Multiplayer, I have always enjoyed joining in, in either Solo or Multiplayer Flights, for many years, all round the World, with all my friends, in FS 2002 and FS 2004 with all the ease, and instant free connectivity of FS Host...(or even personal IP address to IP address!).... Smiley...!

With FSX, Multiplayer became a bit of a difficulty, (apparently), due to the MS insistence in using their own, complicated system for connecting to the Internet, which may be the reason why we see so little FSX Multiplayer activity, (including me), compared to FS 2002 and FS 2004?

The simple, drop-down, Menu system used to connect to On-Line Multiplayer in FS 2004 is so simple and straightforward, I see no reason to change it for future versions of the Flight Sim, (which included FSX!)...!

Paul....FS 2004...FS Navigator...and Multiplayer!.... Cool...!




This is where FSX FSHOST CLIENT would come in.  you can fly your FSX on someones FSHost Server, while someone else flies their FS2004/9.1 on the same server and you both see each other.


(guessing) Flight Online Multiplayer server: Micro$oft - Live, would be nothing more than 1 GIANT ZONE.COM, Gamespy, FSHOST.   but instead of only a few people flying in their own personal spaces within the online environment, not seeing the other "servers"... my guess is EVERYONE is going to be on 1 server almost like Vatsim with everyone trying to talk over everyone or there will be some sort of "Teamspeak-like" rooms that you do talk in and can move around, but all 'flights' will be flying in 1 massive arena/server so you see 10,000 airplanes and helos circling LAX landing on top of each other because noone wants to give right-of-way to the next 747-400, or 787 that is in line.
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Reply #1 - Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:22pm

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The beauty of the present FS Host Servers for FS 2002/FS 2004 is that we can pick, (in advance if required), a Server of our common choice from the long list of Servers, with little possibility of other annoying Simmers gate-crashing it, and spoiling the Session.

(Note that the Sim V Multiplayer Server is Password Protected for that very reason...and why we regularly use it!).

Just a few friends on-line, in clear skies, is quite enough!

Paul.... Cool...!

http://www.chocolatesoftware.com/fshostspy/

 

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Reply #2 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 2:06pm

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Capt.Propwash wrote on Oct 6th, 2011 at 1:59pm:
Micro$oft did the same thing with only showing HAWAII before they launched FSX.  my question to Micro$oft is, "where the @#$%^ is the rest of the damn world???"


Princess Juliana airport is in the Carribean, rather a long ways from Hawai'i don't you think?  Shocked
 

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Reply #3 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 2:14pm

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Fozzer wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 4:30pm:
With FSX, Multiplayer became a bit of a difficulty, (apparently), due to the MS insistence in using their own, complicated system for connecting to the Internet, which may be the reason why we see so little FSX Multiplayer activity, (including me), compared to FS 2002 and FS 2004?


Actually, ACES studio decided to scrap their own incomplete in-house multiplayer system and instead license the GameSpy system. Even they later admitted that it was a "Huge Mistake..." (from the "For What It's Worth Department")  Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 2:37pm

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Quote:
(Note that the Sim V Multiplayer Server is Password Protected for that very reason...and why we regularly use it!).


is it up?
when i tried the test it just took me to the main page...
 

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Reply #5 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 3:19pm

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jetprop wrote on Oct 10th, 2011 at 2:37pm:
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(Note that the Sim V Multiplayer Server is Password Protected for that very reason...and why we regularly use it!).


is it up?
when i tried the test it just took me to the main page...


I've just this minute connected to the on-line Sim V Multiplayer Server using the Password, with FS 2004 and FS Navigator...
..no problem!

fs.netfrag.org
178.63.253.134

Paul...G-BPLF... Cool...!

http://178.63.253.134:81/
 

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Reply #6 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:04pm

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when i do the test it just takes me to the main forum.
anyone know what is wrong?
do i need to install other programs to do the test or something?

but if you need a mic for the server i can't join,have no mic....
 

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Reply #7 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:08pm

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jetprop wrote on Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:04pm:
when i do the test it just takes me to the main forum.
anyone know what is wrong?
do i need to install other programs to do the test or something?


I fire up my Flight Sim (FS 2004), and connect to the Multiplayer server via the drop down menu in the sim.

Instant connection for flying on-line, solo, or with other flight simmers..!

I'm doing it now!...>>> http://178.63.253.134:81/

Paul... Cool,,,!

FSX has a more complicated way of doing the same thing.. Angry...!

P.S I notice the the FAQ's (Frequently Asked Questions) in the Multiplayer Forum no longer works...
...so we need someone familiar with FSX Multiplayer Connection to assist here in the connection details!...
(I am using FS 2004).
« Last Edit: Oct 10th, 2011 at 5:16pm by Fozzer »  

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Reply #8 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:13pm

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the test to get the password?
 

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Reply #9 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:15pm

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jetprop wrote on Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:13pm:
the test to get the password?


Now...that's the secret... Wink....

..as I mentioned above... Grin... Grin....!

Paul...The Keeper of The Secret... Grin...!

I'll tell you what...

Try these...>>> http://www.wspilots.com/ ...>>>

IP Address: 66.90.73.187 select one of the port addresses..

I often use it..no password required... Wink...!

Give it a try...I will look out for you.. Wink...1
 

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Reply #10 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:20pm

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sigh...i mean:

i can't do the test to get the password because it keeps sending me to the main part of the forum.


i gotto learn how to read....





OK i am just giving up,i don't evenknow what a port adress is....yeah i am stupid. XD
 

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Reply #11 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:28pm

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jetprop wrote on Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:20pm:
sigh...i mean:

i can't do the test to get the password because it keeps sending me to the main part of the forum.


i gotto learn how to read....





OK i am just giving up,i don't evenknow what a port adress is....yeah i am stupid. XD


.... Smiley.....!

Never mind..it is so simple with FS 2004!...

FSX is slightly more complicated (apparently?)...

I can lead your through the FS 2004 Menu....   
...but maybe some one with FSX can help?

Paul.

You can see why I/We still use FS 2004 when it comes to Multiplayer!... Grin...!
 

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Reply #12 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:35pm

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it isn't that i am not handy.ok i do tend to break and lose a few,OK a lot, of stuff but this is how i think about manuals:

little guide that helps first-gamers.
and sometimes if you just dont want to waste time finding out what the W key is for...
 

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Reply #13 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:42pm

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In FS2004:
With the Sim running...and you are on the ground...
Press "Alt"
Menu:
Flights.
Multiplayer.
Connect....

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Type in your Name.
The IP address of the Multiplayer Server you have selected.  (WS Pilots in this case)...
Click...."Search"....
When successful...click "Join"
..and you are away...Flying on-line!

FSX should be somewhat similar?

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Reply #14 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:46pm

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where did you download that?
there isnt anything like that default i think...
 

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Reply #15 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:54pm

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jetprop wrote on Oct 10th, 2011 at 4:46pm:
where did you download that?
there isnt anything like that default i think...


Its part of the standard Flight Sim...

Pressing ALT will show the "Menu" at the top of the screen.

To get access to the Multiplayer Option.

I just printed a screen shot of the Option screen for Multiplayer connection.

Paul.

Note: You've got to have the Sim up and running, with you on the ground...then press the "Alt" key to get access to the drop down menu.

P.S... Have a peek in the Multiplayer Forum down below.
A little bit there about connecting to Multiplayer when using FSX...(Unnecessarily complicated!).
FS 2004 is so much easier!
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the links take me to the main forum page.

isn't the first time this computer had isues...

and i do have connection and i do use multiplayer alot but there isn't anything about ports...
 

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Reply #17 - Oct 11th, 2011 at 1:33pm

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jetprop wrote on Oct 11th, 2011 at 12:26pm:
the links take me to the main forum page.

isn't the first time this computer had isues...

and i do have connection and i do use multiplayer alot but there isn't anything about ports...


So you have no problem connecting to FSX Multiplayer...

Do this test for me:

In FSX, connect to this IP address...>>> 66.90.73.187

Select "World Tour"...

Then look here to see if you appear in Port address; 23458, on the right-hand side...>>>

http://www.wspilots.com/

Then look here to see if you appear...>>>

http://66.90.73.187:8082/

Pressing "Enter" in FSX Windowed Mode should bring up the Chat Window with you on it...and anyone else who joins!

If you do then you can join me (or anyone else with FSX) with my FS 2004... Smiley...!

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i am trying.how long will it take to find the sesion?
otherwise i am going to find out how to install fs host client,think i installed it but...
 

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jetprop wrote on Oct 11th, 2011 at 4:14pm:
i am trying.how long will it take to find the sesion?
otherwise i am going to find out how to install fs host client,think i installed it but...


I'm on there now...waiting for you...>>>> http://www.wspilots.com/

66.90.73.187

Paul...!
 

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it can't find the sesion and fshost won't work.
going to mess around tomorow,its getting a bit late here so.
 

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jetprop wrote on Oct 11th, 2011 at 4:17pm:
it can't find the sesion and fshost won't work.
going to mess around tomorow,its getting a bit late here so.


Catch you tomorrow...

Paul..over and out...
 

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Are we back to the issues of ports being opened?

Hey guys... maybe split this developing multiplayer discussion off (it is getting way off the "Leaked Picture" topic) and head it down to the multiplayer section?

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JBaymore wrote on Oct 12th, 2011 at 5:55am:
Are we back to the issues of ports being opened?

Hey guys... maybe split this developing multiplayer discussion off (it is getting way off the "Leaked Picture" topic) and head it down to the multiplayer section?

best,

.............john


Good idea John...

Send the Multiplayer parts down to the Multiplayer Forum.

This should then be back on topic...sorry!

It seems that a lot of Simmers are having problems with FSX Multiplayer using Gamespy, and difficulties with FSHost Client?

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Done Fozzer.

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JBaymore wrote on Oct 12th, 2011 at 5:36pm:
Done Fozzer.

best,

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Thanks, John!

With a bit of to-ing and fro-ing between us, Jetprop has now managed to get his FSX running successfully using FSHostClient, and we have both connected to a particular Flight Sim Server with no problems.
Me using FSHost for FS 2004, and Jetprop using FSHostClient for FSX!

Now we need MORE On-Line Multiplayer Pilots!

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noooo!!!
not more lag!(sarcastic,i will just have to cope with the standard crash every 20/40 min)
 

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Good Morning.....Someone.....Anyone.....please tell me the procedure for getting into the FS2004 MULTIPLAYER session.....Im to new to FS (!.5 years) to have found the sessions thru MS.....Ive built my FS2004 into a BIG program because it function best with my limited video card.....no ctdt.....thank you, N758KD Smiley Wink
 
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Reply #28 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 11:38am

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N758KD wrote on Oct 13th, 2011 at 11:01am:
Good Morning.....Someone.....Anyone.....please tell me the procedure for getting into the FS2004 MULTIPLAYER session.....Im to new to FS (!.5 years) to have found the sessions thru MS.....Ive built my FS2004 into a BIG program because it function best with my limited video card.....no ctdt.....thank you, N758KD Smiley Wink


Welcome aboard the Flight Sim Multiplayer World!.... Cool...!

FS 2004 is easy-peasy!...

Download, install this, and run it....FS Host 3.2 ....>>>

http://www.chocolatesoftware.com/fshost/

Select a server from the list....note the IP address....x.x.x.x

Start Fs2004.

When on the runway..Press "Alt"...to show the menu at the top of the screen...

Select: Flights...Multiplayer...Connect...

Insert your name.
Type in the IP address...(Example: 66.90.73.187)
Search.

When it comes up....Join!....you are away!

Pressing the "Enter" key will bring up the Chat Window to get extra info!

That's good for a start!

Give it a try....any more info wanted..shout out here!... Smiley...!

WS Pilots Server:.... http://www.wspilots.com/ ....>>>

...

Paul...FS 2004...FS Nav...G-BPLF... Cool...!
 

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Reply #29 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 12:30pm

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Thank you....I will give it a go & report back.....N758KD Cheesy
 
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Reply #30 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 3:24pm

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Well I downloaded & installed "FS Host Spy 1.3".....It works as you directed, & as I followed the directions. wasn't able to make "FS Host 3.2" function.....How do I " Find" the other Aircraft while in a Session?.....N758KD, Whittier, California Smiley
 
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Reply #31 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 3:40pm

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N758KD wrote on Oct 13th, 2011 at 3:24pm:
Well I downloaded & installed "FS Host Spy 1.3".....It works as you directed, & as I followed the directions. wasn't able to make "FS Host 3.2" function.....How do I " Find" the other Aircraft while in a Session?.....N758KD, Whittier, California Smiley


You either have to pick one of the Servers in the FS Host list where there is already a pilot, (or more), there....

Run FS Host Spy to get a list of all the servers, and show who is on line....http://www.chocolatesoftware.com/fshostspy/ Latest Version 1.3

Or alternatively arrange with someone to join you on a particular Server of your choice...

If there is no-one on a Server, then you are on your own, until someone shows up!

Try one of these Servers and see if someone shows up...>>>

WS Pilots: 66.9073.187 (Two of us have already been on this Server today)....Have a peek here...>>> http://www.wspilots.com/

NZ Pilots: 203.114.253.134

Sim V: 178.63.353.134 ....(but you will need a password).

Or Pick a Server in FS Host where there is already a Pilot, and join them!

Paul... Smiley...!

If there is no-one else at the Station...you may be on the Train on your own!.... Wink...!
 

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Reply #32 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 4:27pm

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I keep the following "Short-cuts" on my Desktop:

FS9.
FS Host Spy.
(FSX.)
(FS Host Client.)
VOZ Switcher, FS 2004.
REX Weather Engine, FS 2004.
(Plus anything else which is handy for the Flight Sim at short notice!).

Bookmarked in my Browser: A list of my favourite FS Host Servers, and their IP addresses.

This means I can quickly pick my choice!

Paul...FS 2004.... Cool...!

Sim V Server: http://178.63.253.134:81/

Worlds Serious Pilots: http://www.wspilots.com/ 66.90.73.187 Ports: 23456/23457/23458

New Zealand Pilots: http://203.114.130.15:81/ 203.114.130.15
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