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Reply #30 - Oct 8^th, 2011 at 4:49pm

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Hagar wrote on Oct 8^th, 2011 at 3:18pm:

Boikat wrote on Oct 8^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

Hagar wrote on Oct 8^th, 2011 at 1:38pm:

Boikat wrote on Oct 8^th, 2011 at 11:32am:

What Capt. P said is something i've also said before: How is MS going to stop an independant designer from developing their own Flight addons and distributing them? No matter what they would try (if they were to try to prevent "unauthorized addons") someone would figure out a workaround within a matter of minutes or hours, anyway.

You're forgetting one little thing. Freeware developers rely on tools included with the appropriate SDK to produce addons for FS9 & FSX. Now, supposing the Flight SDK is restricted to approved developers who pay for the privilege, only they will be able to use it.

Then there is still FSX, FS9... Besides, I really don't think MS marketing is so stupid that they would intentionally shut out one of the main reason people still buy FSX, or FS9, or even older versions.

Time will tell. We'll see who's right when it's released. Wink

In the meantime, it's all pure supposition based on the deliberately vague comments posted on the MS Flight website.
For example:
Q: How does Games for Windows – LIVE factor in?

A: Games for Windows – LIVE introduces a new level of connectivity to virtual flight, enhancing both the social and game play experiences of the title. Content is updated virtually. You can fly solo or join an entire global flight community online. You can easily connect with and facilitate flight experiences with your friends. The addition of Games for Windows - LIVE creates an ubiquitous virtual world of flight that offers easy and engaging access to the magic of flight for all.

You can read into that whatever you like. Games for Windows® Marketplace

Yup Hagar, that little quote you gave is worthy of the best polititian. Promise everyone whatever THEY want to read into the comments... but leave "plausible deniability" for use later.

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Reply #31 - Oct 8^th, 2011 at 5:07pm

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Hagar wrote on Oct 8^th, 2011 at 1:38pm:

supposing the Flight SDK is restricted to approved developers who pay for the privilege, only they will be able to use it.

Jezz christ!!! Shocked

I never think about it ,and due that M$ is all about money , as I said MSFS series its being a Game, a Simulator and also a game to Built stuff Like airplanes and scenery
that would be the end to me of all about M$ FS ,even If I would be the richest man on the earth ,I would never give them a penny ,would be rude ,would be the lower thing this new Umbrella or Skynet company would do ..

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Reply #32 - Oct 12^th, 2011 at 5:34pm

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Reply #33 - Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:14pm

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The title of the topic is now false since the picture has been posted on the official website.

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Reply #34 - Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:21pm

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F35LightningII wrote on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:14pm:

The title of the topic is now false since the picture has been posted on the official website.

Why? The picture was first exposed last June. Tongue

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Reply #35 - Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:22pm

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I'm just saying it's not "leaked" anymore because it's on the website.

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Reply #36 - Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:26pm

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F35LightningII wrote on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:22pm:

I'm just saying it's not "leaked" anymore because it's on the website.

so it's not leaking now! Wink

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Reply #37 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:47am

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F35LightningII wrote on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:22pm:

I'm just saying it's not "leaked" anymore because it's on the website.

And this is significantly important how?

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Reply #38 - Oct 16^th, 2011 at 8:08pm

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um... I'm not too sure.

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Reply #39 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 10:10pm

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JBaymore wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:47am:

F35LightningII wrote on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:22pm:

I'm just saying it's not "leaked" anymore because it's on the website.

And this is significantly important how?

Umm...this is the MICROSOFT FLIGHT
forum. That's how. Grin

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Reply #40 - Oct 18^th, 2011 at 5:59pm

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JBaymore wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:47am:

F35LightningII wrote on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:22pm:

I'm just saying it's not "leaked" anymore because it's on the website.

And this is significantly important how?

It's obvious to me. Evidently someone broke out the duct tape and fixed the leak. Grin

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Reply #41 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 12:08am

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Looks cool. cant wait to buy it lol.

You can find me in the air or on multiplayer in FSX, Flying a boeing 757 brittish airways or united.

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Reply #42 - Dec 7^th, 2011 at 7:33pm

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hyperpep111 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 3:56pm:

alrot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 2:16pm:

Capt.Propwash wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 1:59pm:

my rant basically comes from Micro$oft saying on the FSX DELUXE box and I quote!!...

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More than 24,000 realistic airports are your launch point to anywhere in the world you want to travel.

24,000 huh??? THEN WHY DO WE NEED ORBX TO MAKE THEM "BETTER"?? Why do we need other developers to make anything better if they are supposed to be realistic?? and Now that Flight is supposed to be "THE MOST REALISTIC FLIGHT ENVIRONMENT EVER", im taking that with a 5 gallon bucket of salt, and crying BULLSNOT the whole time. FSX was supposed to be just that. Everyone Marveled at FSX right before it came out, only to be let down on FPS and scenery that was a tiny bit better than FS9, it was, but not by much.

Micro$oft did the same thing with only showing HAWAII before they launched FSX. my question to Micro$oft is, "where the @#$%^ is the rest of the damn world???"

I wish I could add not just airports and scenery ,how many issues, error, flashing screens ,then in less than a year after being released TWO service pack that didn't fix the problems at all (at the beginning you couldn't use any FS9 Model ,was SP1 that allow it)
Still FSX has Unsolved operational issues, I think the best FS of all was FS9

maybe someone will reply If you spend 10,000 dollars in a computer you can play FSX

I rather buy and apartment or a house then

Captain, I completely agree with you. Hawaii Is probably gonna be better than any map ever put out. But the rest of the world is only going to be distinguished by green, Brownish e.t.c Cheesy

. That's a little bit exaggerated but true.
Orbx, Rex and every one else exists because WE ARE NOT WHAT HAPPY WITH THE GAME. They should Stop!!! saying 24,000 airports when 70% look like the friggin default SABA except worse Angry

I think what they mean by 24000 realistic airports is the OTHER than picture-perfect qualities. Such as, but not limited to:
ILS approaches
Autoland
VOR/NDB navigation
SIDS/STARS
Accurate freqs
Maps
In general, ALL of the other parts of the game that do make it an accurate simulator, and not just a good VFR flying tool. @ 34000FT, you should not be able to make out your house. Maybe not even your neighborhood. But you probably can make out what part of town is yours, and I can say that they've done that, for just about every part of the world that you can go to.

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Reply #43 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 12:05am

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Do you not think expecting microsoft to perfectly model the ENTIRE PLANET or even 24,000 airports is a bit much to ask.

It takes Rock Star or Ubisoft for example 2 or 3+ years to create a game which has maybe one or two city size areas of game play.

The games they design are multi-platform mega selling games which retail at around £45 ($70US) and sell around 20 million + copies in a couple of years (£900million return). Compared to Microsoft flight sim which according to the Guiness book of records sold 21million copies between 1982 and 1999.

Your expecting Microsoft to deliver a game that's vastly more complex than most other games, covers the entire planet in perfect detail down to every airport (including Farmer Jones' dirt strip behind his barn which no one will ever actually go to), features licensing of vehicles/logos/systems rivaled only by the driving sims (Gran Turismo etc), model flight dynamics,weather and navaids to a perfectly real world spec, then deliver it for £40 on one platform to a pretty limited audience AND for it to run perfectly smoothly at on pretty basic spec system.

I personally think that's one hell of an ask.
Just think to your self, how much time and effort does it take to find out the frequency and locations of every VOR station on the planet or to type in the name of every airport on the planet and that's just the simple things.

Boeing and Airbus etc have incredible systems, software and engineers to model flight dynamics and even then they only model one or two aircraft in the space of 5 years. For Flight Sim your expecting Microsoft to model perfectly the flight dynamics of 20+ aircraft which are all totally different.

I'm sure of course Microsoft can get access to the models Airbus and Boeing have created but I'm also pretty sure the computers used to model Boeing's aircraft are a bit more powerful that your average gaming pc.

My point is I think it's unreasonable to expect a sim of this complexity and size to be perfect.

A final thought world be. PMDG addons are amazing and virtually perfect BUT they very expensive and need very powerful systems to run them. And that's because to model every system perfectly takes a lot of time and effort and to then run them all on your system takes a lot of computing power.
But no one is slating the NGX because they can't run it at 30fps on their $300 system from walmart.

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