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Sep 6^th, 2011 at 1:05pm

jon157uk Offline
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Any ideas please guys? I've just installed the Beaver at this link http://simviation.com/1/download?file=DHC2T_Emerald.zip&fileId=13274 and everything works great apart from in VC view the prop is just a big black spinning circle that I can't see through. Is there a fix for this type of thing please?

Thanks... Jon T.

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Reply #1 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 1:44pm

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downloading it now, will take a look in the Textures folder. I think you have to delete one of the textures due to this being a "port-over" from FS9

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Reply #2 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 1:57pm

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I've seen that on a few other aircraft that are originally from 2004 (FS9). I wish I knew the fix myself. Undecided

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Reply #3 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:26pm

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Works fine for me. Which version of FSX do you have? You might need to install the SP1 & SP2 updates.

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Reply #4 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:45pm

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Hagar wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:26pm:

Works fine for me. Which version of FSX do you have? You might need to install the SP1 & SP2 updates.

I'm already using sp1 & 2 mate.

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Reply #5 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 3:00pm

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You might look at some of the fixes here- http://www.premaircraft.com/support/FSX_fixes/index.html

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Reply #6 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 3:21pm

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I do believe that THIS is what you are seeing. I am still looking at the Texture folder to see what the problem is. I believe that it is the "alpha channel" on the 'prop_TBX.bmp' ... upon opening that .bmp in DXTBMP it is a black square with the propeller as the alpha channel.

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Reply #7 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 3:47pm

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Go to the link in my previous post and download the fix for the FMPC Viking, filename- fmpc_vik.zip

That will fix it.

The problem lies not only with the prop texture, but the model as well.

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Reply #8 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 3:56pm

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ok ill stop helping you now that the ALL KNOWING JOBEE is here.

I downloaded the fix and it DOES NOT WORK!!!!! but who am i to say that. oh well.

Sorry that I can not help you.

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Reply #9 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 4:57pm

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Capt.Propwash wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 3:56pm:

ok ill stop helping you now that the ALL KNOWING JOBEE is here.

I downloaded the fix and it DOES NOT WORK!!!!! but who am i to say that. oh well.

Sorry that I can not help you.

I tried the 'fix' too and you're right mate, it doesn't work so on that note I'd appreciate it if you carried on looking at the problem as will I and if I find a cure I'll post here accordingly....thanks for the help!

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Reply #10 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 5:09pm

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Works great for me, I will add I am using FSX/Accel.

Maybe a different sim version?

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Reply #11 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 5:18pm

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AS I WAS SAYING....

i even tried changing the prop_TBX.bmp to a prop_TBX.dds and that did not work either. Some aircraft's prop texture is a .dds and I was hoping that by changing it to a .dds that it would work. .. guess not.

I have another option up my sleeve, but I doubt that it will work too, but let me take a look before I open my keyboard.

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Reply #12 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 5:42pm

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ok, i got the fix.

DO install the fix from the page supplied.

go into the MODEL folder, and rename the model file (the one ending in .mdl) BACK to:

BeaverMK3_viking_fix9.mdl (instead of it reading: BeaverMK3_viking_fix10.mdl)

[there should be only 1 .mdl file. Delete the original fix9.mdl, and rename the fix10.mdl BACK to fix9.mdl as I describe]

THEN go into the model.cfg and change the only line in there to say:

[models]
normal=BeaverMK3_viking_fix9 ( NOT fix10 )

YOU WILL NOW BE ABLE TO SEE THOUGH THE PROP.

------- Be forewarned ... this being an FS9 "port over" you will still have the problem of the prop hiding behind clouds, and trees like other prop-port overs have. To my knowledge, there is no fix for this...... that is unless JOBEE has a solution to it. Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 5:46pm

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Capt.Propwash wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

AS I WAS SAYING....

i even tried changing the prop_TBX.bmp to a prop_TBX.dds and that did not work either. Some aircraft's prop texture is a .dds and I was hoping that by changing it to a .dds that it would work. .. guess not.

I have another option up my sleeve, but I doubt that it will work too, but let me take a look before I open my keyboard.

Changing the prop texture to a .dds won't work because this is not an FSX native model.

Changing the alpha won't work either because the texture works in spot view. So if changing the alpha would fix the VC, it would screw up the spot view.

I am only saying this so others don't waste their time trying these approaches.

cheers,
Joe

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Reply #14 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 6:13pm

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As I said earlier - it works fine for me (FSX Gold + Acceleration). Possibly a display setting on your system or FSX.

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Reply #15 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 6:50pm

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both of you have Accelleration. I do not, and I suppose that Jon157uk does not have Accelleration either. Hence, we are the only 2 that are having this problem (so far that has been reported here)

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Reply #16 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 6:57pm

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Hagar wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 6:13pm:

As I said earlier - it works fine for me (FSX Gold + Acceleration). Possibly a display setting on your system or FSX.

That wouldn't explain why every single plane I've installed works fine but this one doesn't.

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Reply #17 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 7:44pm

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Excellent!!
Yes your fix has worked a treat Propwash, thank you very much for that, I can now continue building up my fleet of Beavers..... Well done mate.

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Reply #18 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 8:33pm

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quite welcome sir. Welcome to the SimV Family.

sometimes it just takes a bit of digging and persistence to get what you want. Yes the fix from the site should have fixed the problem, but when porting over a craft, sometimes Trial and Error on someone's part has to be done. In this case, Premiere Aircraft Designers (PAD) dropped the ball on this particular craft, and I was able to find a cure. [yeah the fix works for those that have Accelleration, but the fix should work for EVERYONE, even those that do not even have SP1 or 2.]

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Reply #19 - Sep 9^th, 2011 at 11:36am

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Just go and download the FSX model from Premier Aircraft Design, they have several models to choose... Shocked

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Reply #20 - Sep 9^th, 2011 at 1:39pm

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Solid wrote on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 11:36am:

Just go and download the FSX model from Premier Aircraft Design, they have several models to choose... Shocked

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That's a great tip, however none of their models are FSX native and all of the Turbo Beavers on their site will still need the patch if you are running FSX/sp2 or FSX/Accel.

Properly patched they work great.

cheers,
Joe

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Reply #21 - Sep 9^th, 2011 at 4:25pm

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JoBee wrote on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 1:39pm:

Solid wrote on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 11:36am:

Just go and download the FSX model from Premier Aircraft Design, they have several models to choose... Shocked

Shocked

That's a great tip, however none of their models are FSX native and all of the Turbo Beavers on their site will still need the patch if you are running FSX/sp2 or FSX/Accel.

Properly patched they work great.

cheers,
Joe

Thanks for the tip off mate.... I've bought the Aerosoft Beaver now and I'm extremely happy with it. In fact I'm that impressed with these Beavers I might buy a whole fleet of them.
(In Air Hauler of course....haha).

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