Simviation Forum - The Pressure is Now On Microsoft for a Release Date!

Reply #15 - Aug 29^th, 2011 at 8:59pm

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BrandonF wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 6:12pm:

Strategic Retreat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2011 at 12:50pm:

...I just wish people would NOT speak of the things they know nothing about.

Ummm....who's the one writing paragraphs about how "Flight will = disaster" based off of no information? Roll Eyes

Wrong.

My speculation you summarized so inaccurately is based on what we DO know.

BrandonF wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 6:12pm:

I agree. The hatred towards Flight by some of the community has been kind of unbelievable. Shocked

If you put me among those you accuse of hatred, you are misconstruing (willingly or not) a meaning that is not the one I was trying to get across.

I am, and remain a hopeful for Flight, but a desperate one. If you read my posts accurately you'll see I

NEVER

talked about the technical part of the yet to come successor of Flight Simulator, as there is nothing but speculations about it still, and I DO NOT TALK OF WHAT I DO NOT KNOW.

What I despair about... what EVERY FS user worth his/her/its salt despairs about... is the almost sure news about Flight's add-ons management and the fact that there's NOTHING that indicates M$ rethinking their bad judgment of wanting to transform what was an openly customizable simulator in another locked down game that could be ported verbatim on a X-BOX with little to no problem, and that, let me tell you, is

WORRYING

.

Of course I foresee the hard core simmers (among whose roll call I have the high honor of finding my name) searching other pastures, if the new Flight becomes a game designed to spill dough from the users in the post market first and foremost, and then all the rest... MAYBE... if they have the time...

I search a simulator, among flight games Crimson Skies, Airfix Dogfighter and the Combat Flight Simulator brand, still entertain me perfectly and I do not need a replacement.

As it is, I still hope it will not be such... but, as already stated elsewhere, I am a fan of having a "plan B" if things go south, too. A "plan B" that I always hope desperately to the last moment to never have to use. And this mindset has ALWAYS served me well in the past.

Hope I was clearer this time.

PS
My complains in the other two posts in this thread were about people who never, and I underline

NEVER

tried, EVEN ONCE in their lifetime, either X-plane nor FlightGear but are so fond of spouting their mouths off about what they obviously DO NOT KNOW, painting themselves as experts THEY ARE

NOT

. Get your mind straightened up. I was not talking about Flight.

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Reply #16 - Aug 31^st, 2011 at 10:12am

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Why does almost every single thing on The M$flight topic turn Into an argument between Strategic Retreat and BrandonF Undecided

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Reply #17 - Aug 31^st, 2011 at 12:55pm

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We really shouldn't take up misconstrued data from unreleased flight sims and bringing that up to the front for senseless argument and finger pointing.

Neither X-Plane 10 nor Flight has fully shown their wings yet, and unless your a beta tester or some QA agent working for their developers, none of you have touched the two products yet either.

When it comes down to it, I think most sensible buyers won't care whether the products are released by Laminar Research or Microsoft. I know I wouldn't be. The next generation flight sim will depend on product offering and what kind of goodies are in store to fill our virtual aviation delights and whether or not the developers royally screw up on a design process. Still, I'm sure each product will have their fair share of followers as it has been.

Flight simming is more or less just a hobby. For some it's more, but it's still just a little computer program. Let's not get too worked up.

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Reply #18 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 11:11am

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I did buy X-Plane 9 this past summer. I have FSX and FS2004 on my laptop and run both a lot. I am an aeronautical engineering student so the idea of easily creating custom planes IN SIM was very appealing so I bought X-Plane. I refuse to even look at the box after 3 flights in it and hours working on the controls. The flight dynamics are simply horrible!!!! According to X-Plane, a fully loaded Cessna 182 can take off at 60kts (with out raising the nose) and instantly roll inverted with a roll rate that would make an Extra jealous. I could do tight turns with 90 degrees of bank easily. So I was doing tight figure 8's over my home town airport at 80kts in a 182! The Eclipse jet also acted very very odd. Oh, and the visuals at the medium setting (for max frame rate but still high visuals) looked like shit, eventhough the weather was clear, there was a weird haze that clouded everything and the lake next to my town (Lake Macatawa) was made into a pond when its actually a fairly big lake! The airport too was not that great, the radio was annoying as hell. Yes it sounded more realistic but it kept repeated itself over and over and over. So basically I will stay away from X-Plane 10 to the point that I will cover my eyes when I see it on the shelves in stores. FSX has plenty of bugs as does FS9, but X-plane has bad UI, bad visuals compared to FS9 at comparable setting and frame rates, horrible flight dynamics, and the cockpits too sucked. This is learned after $20 and several days screwing around with the freaking thing. Thankfully FS9 was there waiting for me since I felt violated after my X-Plane experience and very confused.

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Reply #19 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 2:08pm

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Why does almost every single thing on The M$flight topic turn Into an argument between Strategic Retreat and BrandonF

I have been through various threads and see no argument of any bad nature.

My god! What are forums for? To ask questions. To find information. To air thoughts - especially for those who take a hobby seriously - and MSFS was built on people taking it seriously enough to get involved and contribute.

There are no flame wars. For those of you who do not like reading negative thoughts or hearing debate - maybe you should ask yourself what kind of country you'd like to be living in. Strikes me as maybe 'fairyland' ..... Cool

Debate, thoughts from all sides, fears discussed -- FCOL that's what forums are for!

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Reply #20 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 2:46pm

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pete wrote on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:

Quote:

Why does almost every single thing on The M$flight topic turn Into an argument between Strategic Retreat and BrandonF

I have been through various threads and see no argument of any bad nature.

My god! What are forums for? To ask questions. To find information. To air thoughts - especially for those who take a hobby seriously - and MSFS was built on people taking it seriously enough to get involved and contribute.

There are no flame wars. For those of you who do not like reading negative thoughts or hearing debate - maybe you should ask yourself what kind of country you'd like to be living in. Strikes me as maybe 'fairyland' ..... Cool

Debate, thoughts from all sides, fears discussed -- FCOL that's what forums are for!

Actually It was an attempt at humour that clearly was misunderstood Embarrassed

.
But I do agree with that and It's quite interesting cause you learn things School will never teach you Cool

. I actually don't mind reading negative comments at all.

On another note, I hope there's a demo version Tongue

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Reply #21 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:20am

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BrandonF wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:

I really don't think X-Plane poses a threat to Flight at all. The audience that will want Flight is SO MUCH bigger than those that have even heard of X-Plane.

I agree there are many people who havent heard of X-plane although people have it on Iphones/Ipods but not on computer

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Reply #22 - Jan 1^st, 2012 at 3:37pm

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BrandonF wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:

I really don't think X-Plane poses a threat to Flight at all. The audience that will want Flight is SO MUCH bigger than those that have even heard of X-Plane.

Whats X-plane again? Smiley

No I'm just kidding.

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Reply #23 - Jan 2^nd, 2012 at 9:02am

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What about ' ProFlight Simulator ' ?
Has anyone bought it or tried it out? How does it stand up agianst other flight sims? It looks to be a good buy at £30 but you're never quite sure of course.

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Reply #24 - Jan 2^nd, 2012 at 11:26am

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jon157uk wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2012 at 9:02am:

What about ' ProFlight Simulator ' ?
Has anyone bought it or tried it out? How does it stand up agianst other flight sims? It looks to be a good buy at £30 but you're never quite sure of course.

See here: /yabb?num=1258502262

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