Simviation Forum - What the name of the aircraft

Aug 25^th, 2011 at 11:06pm

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I was wondering if anyone knew the name of the plane that looks like the Grand Caravan but instead of having its standard t shape tail it has a v configuration instead. Just curious because I saw it at my local airport.

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Reply #1 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 7:36am

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Caravan's don't have a T tail, and I have no idea what aircraft looks like a Caravan with a V tail.

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Reply #2 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 8:26am

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It hasn't got a V-tail but it looks like a Caravan --> Gippsland GA-8 Airvan

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Reply #3 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 10:00am

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The only lightweight prop aircraft with a V-tail that I know is the Beechcraft Bonanza V-35.

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Reply #4 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 1:33pm

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The Quest Kodiak also has a Caravanesque appearance, but alas no V tail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quest_Kodiak

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Reply #5 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 11:14pm

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When I get back to my campus Ill take a picture of it. and I should of said the standard configuration on the caravan I miss spoke when I said the t tail

edit: I found it http://www.aerocompinc.com/airplanes/CA10/index.htm apparently its a Comp Air 10XL

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Reply #6 - Aug 27^th, 2011 at 8:19am

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Wow, that is kind of an odd plane. I've seen Aero Comps before, but never one with a twin rudder design.

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Reply #7 - Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:51pm

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Thats what made me confused what the name of the aircraft was

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Reply #8 - Aug 27^th, 2011 at 5:32pm

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DaveSims wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 8:19am:

Wow, that is kind of an odd plane. I've seen Aero Comps before, but never one with a twin rudder design.

I suppose the designer figured that twin tails don't just work on the back of an F-14/15/18!

Clever, if a little pricier to manufacture perhaps.

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Reply #9 - Sep 3^rd, 2011 at 9:30am

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C wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 5:32pm:

DaveSims wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 8:19am:

Wow, that is kind of an odd plane. I've seen Aero Comps before, but never one with a twin rudder design.

I suppose the designer figured that twin tails don't just work on the back of an F-14/15/18!

Clever, if a little pricier to manufacture perhaps.

Clever isn't the word I had in mind...the only reason I see for them to do it is needing a bigger horizontal and vertical tail than they had without making them much bigger. But a V (and a steep one) AND a horizontal? Idonteven.... Sad

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Reply #10 - Sep 7^th, 2011 at 3:57pm

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Jayhawk Jake wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2011 at 9:30am:

Clever isn't the word I had in mind...the only reason I see for them to do it is needing a bigger horizontal and vertical tail than they had without making them much bigger. But a V (and a steep one) AND a horizontal? Idonteven.... Sad

Well, that's exactly what this is. It isn't "V" at all, just having twin fins (slightly canted as they are reasonably adjacent) to counter the need for what would be a fairly large fin due to the moment of the relatively long nose coupled with a fairly short rear fuselage.

As I said, quite clever, outside the box thinking.

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Reply #11 - Sep 12^th, 2011 at 6:18pm

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C wrote on Sep 7^th, 2011 at 3:57pm:

Jayhawk Jake wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2011 at 9:30am:

Clever isn't the word I had in mind...the only reason I see for them to do it is needing a bigger horizontal and vertical tail than they had without making them much bigger. But a V (and a steep one) AND a horizontal? Idonteven.... Sad

Well, that's exactly what this is. It isn't "V" at all, just having twin fins (slightly canted as they are reasonably adjacent) to counter the need for what would be a fairly large fin due to the moment of the relatively long nose coupled with a fairly short rear fuselage.

As I said, quite clever, outside the box thinking.

But why not just make an H or U tail or three tails? It would look better, be structurally better, and easier to make.

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Reply #12 - Sep 27^th, 2011 at 6:05pm

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Jayhawk Jake wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 6:18pm:

But why not just make an H or U tail or three tails? It would look better, be structurally better, and easier to make.

With an H or U tail, I think your first point would be true, but the second and third, as the fins are integral to the fuselage structure, probably wouldn't be - a lot of stress would be taken by the fuselage, as opposed to a relatively weak joint at the extremity of tailplane, and the control runs can be far shorter and simpler.

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