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Red Arrow jet crashes at U.K. air festival (Read 928 times)

Reply #15 - Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 5:39am

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Sakura wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 3:15am:

Investigators say the incident may be the result of a bird strike

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Potentially could be. That's one of the bigger dangers of single engine jets, particularly near coastal locations, where the birds tend to be bigger.

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Reply #16 - Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 5:41am

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Sakura wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 3:15am:

Investigators say the incident may be the result of a bird strike

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He would not be the first to have bird in the engine and have bird shatter the canopy and enter the cockpit or even just the cockpit. That could explain why he ejected at the stage he did, possibly severe disorientation or semi consciousness.

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Reply #17 - Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 5:46am

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That said, if it is a birdstrike, it's relatively (in the circumstances, and no consolation to family and friends) good news, as it's a known risk as opposed to a technical failure of some description.

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Reply #18 - Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 5:54am

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C wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 5:46am:

The engineer in me wanted to say exactly that. However being ex-serviceman and having worked on aircraft for the last 24 years, my viewpoint does not always sit with what people want to hear at such times as this, so I keep my mouth closed.

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Reply #19 - Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 6:32pm

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I've said from the very start I would expect the outcome to be a birdstrike. It's a shame that its happend, and it seems like the pilots made the ultimate sacrifice to save others.
The question would be, what radio traffic was passed between red 4 and the team from point of failure to the crash.

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Reply #20 - Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 6:55pm

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Craig. wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 6:32pm:

The question would be, what radio traffic was passed between red 4 and the team from point of failure to the crash.

It'll all be on tape. I suspect very little, if any.

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Reply #21 - Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 7:00pm

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I dont expect there will be much either. but I'd be surprised if he wasn't able to get something out. Then again if this has happend a few hundred feet up, I doubt his first thoughts were to hit the mic button, if he's worried about getting away from other people.

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Reply #22 - Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 7:02pm

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That's some bad news to come back home to Sad

Just... Wow. That is some bad news.

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Reply #23 - Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 6:11am

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Well. This is not a lucky year for aviation Sad

Most people think that flying a plane is dangerous, except pilots because they know how easy it is.
Arguing with a pilot is like wrestling with a pig in the mud, after a while you begin to think the pig likes it.

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