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Aug 6th, 2011 at 1:05pm

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I have placed this in "General" and not "real aviation" because the story has the potential to be about more than an aircraft crash.

It will most probably, no WILL be the food of thought on every conspiricy website on the WWW, but it would appear that Seal Team Six of Bin Laden fame or members of the team have been killed in said crash/shoot down. Now some would say that ties up all loose ends in the Bin Laden story for those who believe that he is still at large or such Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

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Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2011 at 5:24pm

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Reply #2 - Aug 6th, 2011 at 7:07pm

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I just feel for the families who have lost loved ones in this terrible tragedy Cry
 
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Reply #3 - Aug 6th, 2011 at 9:39pm

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Reply #4 - Aug 6th, 2011 at 11:01pm

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expat wrote on Aug 6th, 2011 at 1:05pm:
Now some would say that ties up all loose ends in the Bin Laden story for those who believe that he is still at large or such Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

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Didn't you know?  The government released pictures of bin Laden's funeral.

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Reply #5 - Aug 7th, 2011 at 8:01am

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ozzy72 wrote on Aug 6th, 2011 at 7:07pm:
I just feel for the families who have lost loved ones in this terrible tragedy Cry


You are quite right, but some will always try and make a profit from such a tragedy.


Webb wrote on Aug 6th, 2011 at 11:01pm:
expat wrote on Aug 6th, 2011 at 1:05pm:
Now some would say that ties up all loose ends in the Bin Laden story for those who believe that he is still at large or such Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Matt

Didn't you know?  The government released pictures of bin Laden's funeral.



I know I should not laugh, but............. Grin Grin

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Reply #6 - Aug 7th, 2011 at 8:20am

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Sad Cry. Conspiracy theorists really annoy me Angry. But I wonder what caused the accident

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Officials, witnesses and the Taliban have said the Chinook was shot down by insurgents during a combat mission.

The helicopter went down in a district of Wardak province, west of Kabul, early on Saturday.

The presence of at least 17 of the Seals has led to speculation that they were involved in a highly significant operation, such as targeting a high-ranking figure in the insurgency.
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Reply #7 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 4:38pm

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Airstrike Kills Taliban Militants Who Shot Down Helicopter

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The commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan says an airstrike has killed the militants responsible for last week's helicopter crash that killed 38 Americans and Afghans ...

General John Allen told reporters at the Pentagon via videoconference Wednesday that a coalition air raid killed the Taliban insurgents responsible for bringing down the helicopter in Wardak.

In a separate statement, NATO said the precision airstrike Tuesday killed Taliban leader Mullah Mohibullah and the insurgent who "fired the shot associated with" the downing of the CH-47 helicopter in the Tangi Valley. 

The coalition said special operations forces tracked down Mohibullah and the shooter after receiving information from local citizens.  The two men were attempting to flee the country to avoid capture ...


I'll bet those guys will think twice before trying to shoot down another American helicopter.
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Reply #8 - Aug 11th, 2011 at 7:02am

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I bet the conspiracy nuts are wetting themselves at this. The only one left alive is the guy who keeps being airbrushed out of the White House pictures, and then appears back again, Mr "Yellow Tie"  Grin Grin

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Reply #9 - Aug 11th, 2011 at 8:07pm

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I've heard some people say that this was a calculated strike by the Taliban and that they did it to get the team who killed Bin Laden. My question is, how would they know who was on the helicopter? Even if they knew, then they must have known that the SEAL "Team Six" members aboard were not the same people who were involved in the Bin Laden raid. More than likely the Taliban guys pointed to the horizon ans said "Hey, here comes an American helicopter. Quick, get the rocket launcher!" Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #10 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:26am

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They knew the route that American choppers would take into the battle zone and out of the battle zone.  It was orchestrated so that the initial firefight would have the rangers calling in for backup (the chopper) and while the backup was helping secure the first scene, the taliban were setting up the ambush knowing that the chopper would be returning through that valley.

They had no way of knowing who was on the chopper, they just knew it was American.
 
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Reply #11 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:36am

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So the US military has learned nothing since Mogadishu, 1983 (Black Hawk Down)?

Don't fly predictable routes!

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Reply #12 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:43am

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Not much choice in much of those areas of high terrain in Afghan.  Those combat loaded choppers don't fly that high, especially in high altitude terrain.  They have to utilize valleys.
 
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Reply #13 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:55am

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Good strategy, then.  The same way Ho Chi Minh won his war.

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Reply #14 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 10:20am

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BigTruck wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:43am:
Not much choice in much of those areas of high terrain in Afghan.  Those combat loaded choppers don't fly that high, especially in high altitude terrain.  They have to utilize valleys.


I just thought of a probably very stupid idea. put one of those helicopters in the backs of one of those big, high-flying cargo planes.  when close to the target, have the cargo plane desend to an altitude where the helicopters would be able to gain lift, open the rear cargo door, push the helicopters out with engines running and if possible rotors spinning.  That way, they only have to make the trip back and they hopefully won't be able to get ready for an ambush at the site.
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