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May 7th, 2011 at 7:20pm

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Reply #1 - May 7th, 2011 at 7:30pm

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Wow! What an entrance Greg. That first shot is awesome. Smiley
 

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Reply #2 - May 7th, 2011 at 7:40pm

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patchz wrote on May 7th, 2011 at 7:30pm:
Wow! What an entrance Greg. That first shot is awesome. Smiley


Thanks L.T. Me glad you like!  Smiley  Wink  Cool

 

FSX, we've come a long way baby! Skunk Works is an official alias for Lockheed Martin’s Advanced Development Programs (ADP), formerly called Lockheed Advanced Development Projects. Skunk Works is responsible for a number of famous aircraft designs, including the U-2, the SR-71 Blackbird, the F-117 Nighthawk, and the F-22 Raptor. Its largest current project is the F-35 Lightning II
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Reply #3 - May 7th, 2011 at 7:44pm

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Awesome shots.......coincidentally I posted shots of a P-38 today too Cool Cool
Whose model? It looks very good Shocked
 

"Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth and danced the skies on laughter silvered wings. Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun split clouds.....and done a hundred things you have never dreamed of.....wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence. Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"
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Reply #4 - May 7th, 2011 at 8:15pm

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CHUCK79 wrote on May 7th, 2011 at 7:44pm:
Awesome shots.......coincidentally I posted shots of a P-38 today too Cool Cool
Whose model? It looks very good Shocked


Thanks Chuck. I loved your shots!
This is by...I'll PM it to you, kinda tired of promoting peoples products! Undecided

 

FSX, we've come a long way baby! Skunk Works is an official alias for Lockheed Martin’s Advanced Development Programs (ADP), formerly called Lockheed Advanced Development Projects. Skunk Works is responsible for a number of famous aircraft designs, including the U-2, the SR-71 Blackbird, the F-117 Nighthawk, and the F-22 Raptor. Its largest current project is the F-35 Lightning II
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Reply #5 - May 7th, 2011 at 8:36pm

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Wow...yes that first shot is wonderful...well done Greg... Wink
 

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Reply #6 - May 7th, 2011 at 9:03pm

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Flying Trucker wrote on May 7th, 2011 at 8:36pm:
Wow...yes that first shot is wonderful...well done Greg... Wink


Thank you Doug! Smiley
Did you notice my cowl flaps were opened, maybe I should have closed them at this high speed,
but there was not a neutral position switch like my P-47? Huh



 

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Reply #7 - May 8th, 2011 at 6:52am

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Good morning Greg... Smiley

Wish my father was around as he was with a Military Unit that Test Flew almost all Allied and Axis Aircraft after the Second World War. 

He also worked on the A.V. Roe Arrow Canada project which the United States and the French Governments both tried to purchase before the greatest political blunder in Canadian Aviation History happened.

After the war was over many aircraft were compared against each other just as they did at the end of the First World War.

Cost dictates, designs suffer from this along with political blunders.

I remember seeing some manuels on dads desk and I believe one was the P38, will ask my older brother as he has all that stuff.
I never got too interested in military fighter aircraft like some of my brothers and sisters, although flying ten years in the service I enjoyed the heavies...they got coffee and bathrooms... Wink

Every aircraft and engine is different, there are a set of guide lines in place for operating the aircraft at proper temperatures, altitudes and weather amongst other things.

That information I can't pass on about the aircraft but I can pass this on....

COWL FLAPS

Usually cowl flaps are doors that are located on the bottom of the cowling, located either inside or outside. They are in this location because that is usually the end of the path for the cooling air flow. These doors are opened and closed by the pilot from the cockpit. Usually they are manual and are operated by a lever or a knob. In some cases they are electric and are opened and closed by a switch.

On radial engines you can see the cowl flaps as a ring of individual doors surrounding the rear of the cowling. Some aircraft utilize a series of baffles and louvers to maintain proper cooling. The Cessna 421B had cowl flaps in the "A" model but they were dispensed with in the "B" and "C" models because Cessna engineers were able to redesign the cowling for better cooling without the need of flaps.

ENGINE COOLING ON THE GROUND

Given the above information you can see that engine cooling is designed to operate properly in the air. Ground operation is a necessary evil, a means to an end. Given this you can see that the pilot must closely monitor engine temperatures until the aircraft is airborne and temperatures have had a chance to stabilize.

Good operating procedure requires that the pilot give some thought to how he will keep his engines cool before departure. During the winter this is usually not a problem. But, in the heat of summer in can be an item of some consideration. During hot weather operations many pilots will fire up their avionics bus and get their clearances before engine start-up. This will cut down on some unnecessary idle time, but as a courtesy you should advise Clearance Delivery or Ground Control that is what you are doing.

For example: "Clearance, Cessna 1557Golf instruments to O'Hare, Bravo (the current ATIS)". You receive and read back your clearance ending with "We'll contact Ground as soon as we have engine start up." This puts the people in the tower cab on notice that you are not ready for an immediate taxi clearance. (In most installations Clearance and Ground are sitting side by side- sometimes the same person.)

Also, you should look around the field (not possible at most major airports) and see if there are any situations that would prevent your expeditious departure. Old Charlie Fergusen might just be blocking the access to the runway while doing one of his infamous twenty minute run ups.

ENGINE START UP AND TAXI

Without any specific aircraft in mind this will, of course, be generic. Having the cowl flaps open will usually be a part of the pre-start check list. After engine start and during taxi to the active runway monitor engine temperatures. During cold weather operations the cowl flaps may be closed to aid in more rapid engine warm up, however this practice can lead to hot spots within the engine area. If you are delayed for any reason try to turn the aircraft into the wind for additional cooling. The propellers unfortunately do not provide much air flow as the cowling inlets are usually in the area of the propeller hubs.

If the engines start to approach red line temperatures your options are rather limited. If you shut down the cowling will retain the heat and fry the engines. On some aircraft increasing power may increase airflow, but at the same time will lead to higher temperatures- truly a Catch 22. This is all the more reason to plan your ground departure as much as practical during warm weather operations.

DEPARTURE

OK, you didn't get so hot on the ground that the engines were over heated and now you are on the runway. Cowl flaps are usually called for to be open on the take off check list. Apply power and away you go.

CLIMB OUT

During climb out monitor your engine temperatures. Once they have stabilized lean your mixtures in accordance with the Aircraft Operators Manual. The cowl flaps should be adjusted after the mixtures have been set. Close the cowl flaps as necessary to maintain proper engine temperatures.

ENGINE FAILURE, SINGLE-ENGINE OPERATION

In the event of an engine failure in a single-engine aircraft the cowl flaps are the least of your problems. If you are in for a prolonged glide closing them can clean up the aircraft and help to stretch the gliding distance.

In a multi-engine aircraft closing the cowl flaps on the inoperative engine is usually relegated to the "clean up items" check list. It is important that the extended cowl flaps be retracted on the inoperative engine because of the drag that they cause, but doing so quickly is not as important as the other items on a typical "in flight engine shut down" check list. The temperatures on the operating engine should be carefully monitored as it now will be operating near full power to help compensate for the loss of the other engine. In this situation the last thing you want to do is to introduce more drag into the equation, but it may become necessary if the operating engine is over heating. On the other hand, if the choice is cowl flaps open and don't make the airport vs cowl flaps closed, ruin the engine but make the airport then let the engine get ruined. While expensive, they can be replaced a lot easier than people can.

CRUISE

In cruise configuration the cowl flaps are normally closed after the engine temperatures have had a chance to stabilize.

LET DOWN

Usually the cowl flaps are left in the closed position during let down from cruise. The exception to this of course would be extremely hot weather conditions.

APPROACH AND LANDING

During this phase of operations the cowl flaps usually remain closed. It can vary though from aircraft to aircraft. Once again, the determining factor is the engine temperatures. A usual catch-all phrase on landing check lists is "Cowl flaps: Adjust as necessary for proper engine temperatures".

Thought should be given to the possibility of an aborted landing due to weather or a "ground event" that prevents landing. If a go around should become necessary apply power as required and adjust the cowl flaps as you would during a normal take off.

After landing, open the cowl flaps all of the way and permit the engines to start their cool down. After engine shut down it is best to leave the cowl flaps open to allow the engines to cool down without any hot spots retaining heat and possibly over heating any accessories.

http://stoenworks.com/Tutorials/Cowl%20Flaps%20%26%20Engine%20C.html

The above article is from the above Link... Smiley


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AP-38_Lightning

The above Link is an excellent lengthy read but well worth it... Smiley

I took this paragraph from that above Link which mentions the LACK OF COWL FLAPS...Never mind, the info was (almost) there: "The powerplant problems were not entirely the Allison engine's fault. Many of the reliability problems were actually due to the inadequate cooling system, in particular the cumbersome plumbing of the turbosupercharger intercooler ducting which directed air all way from the supercharger out to the wingtips and back. In addition, the lack of cowl flaps were a problem. In the European theatre of operation, temperatures at altitude were often less than 40 degrees below zero and the Lightning's engines would never get warmed up enough for the oil to be able to flow adequately. Octane and lead would separate out of the fuel at these low temperatures, causing the Allisons to eat valves with regularity, to backfire through the intercooler ducts, and to throw rods, sometimes causing the engine to catch fire.

Again Greg the best way to operate any aircraft or piece of equipment is by the actual Aircraft Operating Manuel and Engine Operating Manuel and there is one included in each and every aircraft.

The P38 did get an improved Allison Engine but as for political reasons from within the Merlin would not be mated to the P38 like it was with the P51.
Again the wrong guy for the job... Roll Eyes



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Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Reply #8 - May 8th, 2011 at 12:31pm

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I read your entire reply this morning Doug!
Thank you for the info! I know that engine temps can make or break your entire flight! Some models of my Spitfires
I fly for instance, although no cowl flaps are involved, require you be airborne within seven or eight minutes tops before the engines will severely overheat!
The P-47 I fly requires the cowl flap switches be positioned to neutral the entire flight unless of course the temps cool or heat, then you must open or close accordingly!
Of course I'll never be a real world pilot, the closet I've come to being one was back in the 1980's 
I was a hang glider pilot. That requires heat! Lot's of heat, or thermals! Used to watch the buzzards circle to find where the thermals were popping,
or watch hawks next to a mountain to locate the best ridge lift.
But, alas I'm too long in the tooth and to light in the wallet! So now I get to live the dream of flying vicariously
through gents like you who have been there and done that, and sims!
The older I get the more comfort I require in my vehicles, you your planes, me my cars and trucks!
So I know what you mean when you talk about the heavies!
Thanks for sharing with us Doug! Live long my friend!

Greg  Smiley

 

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