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Apr 27th, 2011 at 10:24pm

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Just Flight's Douglas DC-3 and ORBX's Walter Sutton's private airstrip WA79.  Smiley

Hope you enjoy!  Cool


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Reply #1 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 10:25pm

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Man that livery looks good on that Gooney Bird. Awesome shots Greg. Smiley

I bet the guy working on the tractor north of the barn looked up when you took off. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #2 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 10:48pm

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patchz wrote on Apr 27th, 2011 at 10:25pm:
Man that livery looks good on that Gooney Bird. Awesome shots Greg. Smiley

I bet the guy working on the tractor north of the barn looked up when you took off. Roll Eyes


Should have seen his face when I buzzed the barn!!!  Grin

Thank you L.T.   Smiley  Cool
 

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Reply #3 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 9:13am

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Wonderful set Greg...well done... Wink
 

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Reply #4 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 9:48am

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Flying Trucker wrote on Apr 28th, 2011 at 9:13am:
Wonderful set Greg...well done... Wink


Thank you for the compliment Doug, and

thank you for sharing your vast knowlege and teaching the important aspects of flying props! Manifold pressure, prop RPM, cowl flaps and scarfs!  Wink

Although I did get the bird off that short strip, it's because of a nice head wind and what Carl said in the movie Sling Blade, 'There aint no gas in it'.  Grin

Happy flying,

Greg  Cool
« Last Edit: Apr 30th, 2011 at 6:22pm by Skunkworks »  

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Reply #5 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 12:27pm

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Thanks for the kind words Greg.

This is one set of pictures I would like to take the time to speak about if that is all right with you... Smiley

I believe your wonderful shots will make my point...

Have posted many Links on Power Settings, Winds and a little about operating off water however I do not think that I have touched on two important points.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situation_awareness

The first we like to call Situation Awareness, know the area you are going into.  That is why Military Briefings are so important.
There should be a crew briefing before every flight followed by an equally important debriefing.
The debriefing will pick out the points to avoid or assist with the next flight into the same location.
It is not much use flying into a field or cache location and not having enough runway to takeoff from.  Leaving behind fuel is okay if you have an environmentally friendly location to store it.
To dump fuel on the ground or into the water, well that is just not acceptable anymore.
If the winds increase as they sometimes do, there might not be enough fuel to make it too a safe landing area.

Situation Awareness during a Flight Briefing will give all the crew an idea of what they will see and can expect. 
No surprises, if it is a winter operation with a Douglas DC3 flying off wheel/skis and you think or know there is going to be a confined landing and takeoff in a remote area using the skis or partial skis, then the entire crew needs to know.

A well informed crew can ensure a safer landing, no load shift if a go around is required.

I will guarantee you several go arounds if the landing is to be made on a body of frozen water.
The first approach will be to check the landing area for the size of the snow drifts, if it is ice or snow, obstructions, wind, direction of exit... etc. and usually the second approach will be a touch down with power and then lift off, the third to see if the tracks you made are dark or the colour of the snow.  If dark, you probably have water, that should tell you the ice is not safe enough...go home and get the Canso/Catalina/PBY5A... Grin

Okay now you have set up your cache, hopefully on land so it will be still there when the ice goes out.  I don't know how many caches I have heard of being set up on an island for different organisations and universities to find when they flew in during the summer months by float or seaplane the island was not there.
Very embarrassing... Lips Sealed

Now you and your trusty crew are ready for takeoff.
Gosh darn....the trees have grown, the hills got higher and the lake got smaller while you were unloading.

This is the second point...your Gut Feeling.
If you are not comfortable as the pilot, don't think your crew are either.

Gut Feeling:
A gut feeling, or gut reaction, is a visceral emotional reaction to something, and often one of uneasiness. Gut feelings are generally regarded as not modulated by conscious thought, and as a reflection of intuition rather than rationality.

The phrase "gut feeling" may also be used as a short-hand term for an individual's "common sense" perception of what is considered "the right thing to do"; such as: helping an injured passerby, avoiding dark alleys and generally acting in accordance with instinctive feelings about a given situation. It can also refer to simple common knowledge phrases which are true no matter when said, such as "Water is wet", "Fire is hot", or to ideas that an individual intuitively regards as true, without proof.

Gut feelings, like all reflexive unconscious comparisons, can be re-programmed by practice or experience.

Do not second guess yourself...it does not work.
If you know you can't get out with what fuel you have and crew, then don't try it.
Get on the radio, keep the engines warm, use the cache if you have to, set up a winter camp, it will be a lot cheaper then trying to drag a bent aircraft and injured crew members out of the bush.

Your third picture Greg shows my point I hope.

A good captain will never put his gut feeling ahead of common sense, gut feeling and common sense go hand in hand with Situation Awareness which is part of a good Preflight Briefing and Debriefing.

There are a couple of other things which come into play, and your pictures depict that perfectly for all to see.
1st...experience and training
       no captain would attempt such a confined area takeoff
       without those two attributes
2nd...crew coordination
         continued education and training that is the goal
         to all safe flights

Well there is my two cents worth again Greg....I know, I am al little long winded.... Grin

Reminds me of the young Cessna 185 Float Plane Pilot who went in to pick up two moose hunters.
They both had a moose and neither of them wanted to leave their moose behind for the second trip.

The young aviator said he did not think the three of them, their kit and the two moose could get off the lake safely.

The two moose hunters convinced him they had last year.

Everything was loaded and of course the Cessna ended up in the trees on the far shore.

When the final branches finished falling the pilot heard the one moose hunter ask the other moose hunter.
....How far did we get??

The second moose hunter said.
...About ten feet farther than we did last year on the first aircraft...

Not sure if there is a moral there or not folks... Grin


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Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Reply #6 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 4:37pm

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Looks beautiful Smiley  The DC-3 really looks great with orbx's scenery Smiley  Great work Smiley

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Reply #7 - Apr 30th, 2011 at 6:26pm

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I keep apologizing for the slow replies guys, the projects keep piling up. This time it's overclocking my computer and not blowing her up. A good stable OC takes a couple days.

Thank you very much for the kind words Doug and Jake

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Reply #8 - May 1st, 2011 at 1:46am

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You are welcome...Greg... Wink
 

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Reply #9 - May 1st, 2011 at 1:35pm

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I must have missed these before Greg........that plane is beautiful. Shocked
Awesome shots Wink
 

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Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"
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Reply #10 - May 1st, 2011 at 7:32pm

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CHUCK79 wrote on May 1st, 2011 at 1:35pm:
I must have missed these before Greg........that plane is beautiful. Shocked
Awesome shots Wink


Thank you for looking and the compliment Chuck!  Smiley

I couldn't quite figure out what this post was missing!  Huh

Turns out it was you kind sir!  Cool
 

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