Simviation Forum - Flight models interchangeable?

Mar 31^st, 2011 at 3:23am

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If I download a flyable plane and don't like the way it handles, can I replace its 'model' file with one from another aircraft which I do like?

PLEASE STOP LINKING IMAGES, IT SLOWS THE FORUMS DOWN FOR OTHER USERS!!!!

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Reply #1 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 12:02pm

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That would be a big mistake. Sad

The model (MDL) file is the physical aircraft as you see it onscreen. Roll Eyes

I think what you really mean is replacing the AIR file with one from another aircraft. And, yes, you can do that...within reason. All you really need to do is rename it properly....BUT that won't change the Description and Performance data within the file that is displayed in Freeflight, unless you edit that using AirEd. Wink

CAUTIONS:

You should select an AIR file from another version of the same aircraft, or one very similar to the one in question. You really don't want to replace the AIR file in a P-40 with one from a B-17.

Be aware that the way the plane flies (whether you like it or not) may well be the way the actual plane handled.

Hope that helps.

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Reply #2 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 3:14pm

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Tango_Romeo wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 12:02pm:

That would be a big mistake. Sad

The model (MDL) file is the physical aircraft as you see it onscreen. Roll Eyes

I think Boxkite meant the flight model TR.

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I think what you really mean is replacing the AIR file with one from another aircraft. And, yes, you can do that...within reason. All you really need to do is rename it properly....BUT that won't change the Description and Performance data within the file that is displayed in Freeflight, unless you edit that using AirEd.

Don't forget that the Aircraft.cfg entries take precedence over the AIR file.

I've done this a lot in the past but you need to know what you're doing.

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Reply #3 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 4:44pm

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Thanks, Hagar, for the headsup about the CFG file entries taking precedence. I should have mentioned it. Smiley

Many aircraft have very simple CFG files that you do not need to worry about, but increasingly (and particularly with the popular use of Air Wrench), CFG entries are being used to over-ride AIR file entries. Smiley

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Reply #4 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 4:56pm

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Tango_Romeo wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 4:44pm:

Thanks, Hagar, for the headsup about the CFG file entries taking precedence. I should have mentioned it. Smiley

You're welcome.

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Many aircraft have very simple CFG files that you do not need to worry about, but increasingly (and particularly with the popular use of Air Wrench), CFG entries are being used to over-ride AIR file entries. Smiley

It's a long time since I messed around with CFS2 so I could be wrong about this. I think aircraft are listed on the CFS2 Aircraft selection menu under the Aircraft.cfg title= name rather than the AIR file entry. Simply swapping the flight dynamics with a similar type should not involve AIR file editing. Just remember to use the title= & [contact_points] entries from the original aircraft.

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Reply #5 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:50pm

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Thanks guys i'll psyche myself up to have a crack at it..

Reason I asked is because sometimes I download a plane (eg Fw190) which has good graphics but unrealistically jerky flight characteristics, so I look around and d/load another Fw.
Problem is, the new one might have excellent flight chars but not so hot in the graphics dept.
Hence my solution would be to combine the best graphics and the best flight chars into one plane.

PLEASE STOP LINKING IMAGES, IT SLOWS THE FORUMS DOWN FOR OTHER USERS!!!!

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Reply #6 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 12:06pm

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Hagar wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 4:56pm:

It's a long time since I messed around with CFS2 so I could be wrong about this. I think aircraft are listed on the CFS2 Aircraft selection menu under the Aircraft.cfg title= name rather than the AIR file entry. Simply swapping the flight dynamics with a similar type should not involve AIR file editing. Just remember to use the title= & [contact_points] entries from the original aircraft.

That is correct, but I was referring to editing the Description and Performance text blocks of the AIR file, which appear in the individual aircraft window in Freeflight. Wink

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Reply #7 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 2:28pm

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if you offer beer and chips. and ask nicely maybe tango can help you. i wouldnt play with them too much. sometimes one lil adjustment and you'll be do back flips everytime you pull up. (than again you would realy confuse the other pilot)

Tango and I played with the Commando to get it to takeoff better with some minor success on my part but it took Tango to get it to Fly as i couldnt get it. So pick your bird than see how she feels. if you think it needs adjustments than Give a shout out and let these guy know what its doing and what you want it to do.

Best advice i can give. if you have FS2002pro you can load the plane in the editor and modify the aircraft.CFG file. just remember to paste it into CFS2 after your done.

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Reply #8 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 6:28pm

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just a slight tweak here an there and chuck the whole lot into the aircraft folder as a standalone aircraft an Bob's yer uncle. Grin

regardless Collin Tongue

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Reply #9 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 11:02pm

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dude you just made Star Blazers LOL

thats to wild

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Reply #10 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 11:13pm

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And they said you couldn't roll an Essex! Cheesy

Those naysayers have no vision! Grin

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Reply #11 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 11:17pm

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Shucks, Guys, Collin didn't get his MS (Master Shipwright) ticket off the back of a cereal box. Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - Apr 4^th, 2011 at 3:55am

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Tango_Romeo wrote on Apr 1^st, 2011 at 12:06pm:

Hagar wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 4:56pm:

It's a long time since I messed around with CFS2 so I could be wrong about this. I think aircraft are listed on the CFS2 Aircraft selection menu under the Aircraft.cfg title= name rather than the AIR file entry. Simply swapping the flight dynamics with a similar type should not involve AIR file editing. Just remember to use the title= & [contact_points] entries from the original aircraft.

That is correct, but I was referring to editing the Description and Performance text blocks of the AIR file, which appear in the individual aircraft window in Freeflight. Wink

You're right of course. I've spent too much time with FS9 & FSX.

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