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Feb 6^th, 2011 at 7:01pm

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Area 51s new release

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Reply #1 - Feb 6^th, 2011 at 8:25pm

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Very nice, great shots.......please tell me it's water landable

"Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth and danced the skies on laughter silvered wings. Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun split clouds.....and done a hundred things you have never dreamed of.....wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence. Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"

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Reply #2 - Feb 6^th, 2011 at 8:32pm

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Is that a mini gun out the port side? Awesome Chinook! Cool

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Reply #3 - Feb 6^th, 2011 at 11:35pm

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Not sure about water landable yet and yeah that's a mini-gun. One of the many views your staring over the top of it

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Reply #4 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 12:07am

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Woah cool!! Nice Chinook! I always wondered how come no one had released a good one yet...
How's this helo flying? First impressions?
If anyone knows of good Russian choppers for FSX I'm all ears. I really wish Nemeth Bros. would redo their Mi 2 and Mi 8 for FSX... and also a Hind Cheesy

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Reply #5 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:48am

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Now that is cool Dave.

If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.

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Reply #6 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:47am

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Not much of a bug smasher fan but this heli looks awesome

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Reply #7 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 6:32pm

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Does it float, Dave?

"Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth and danced the skies on laughter silvered wings. Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun split clouds.....and done a hundred things you have never dreamed of.....wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence. Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"

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Reply #8 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 7:28pm

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No..you either crash or ejected out of water.

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Reply #9 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 8:34pm

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DowninFlames wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 7:28pm:

No..you either crash or ejected out of water.

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Well crap......there must be a way of fiddling the Cfg. file to make it water landable though. I really would like this chopper....if anyone out there knows how to make aircraft float, please help

"Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth and danced the skies on laughter silvered wings. Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun split clouds.....and done a hundred things you have never dreamed of.....wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence. Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"

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Reply #10 - Feb 8^th, 2011 at 6:50am

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I know absolutely nothing about editing an air file Chuck, I don't even have a program that will open an air file. But I would think that adding whatever lines are needed for a float plane would do it. If you find out, let me know. There are some others that it would make interesting, even if they are not supposed to float. Roll Eyes

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Reply #11 - Feb 8^th, 2011 at 11:16am

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You can make anything float if you add the float entries to the Aircraft.cfg. [contact_points] section. I quickly modified an FS9 CH-47 to try it out. Use the default Goose Aircraft.cfg for reference.

http://www.simviation.com/phpupload/uploads/1297196999.jpg

These are my new Floats entries. Your point numbers & gear reference entries will obviously be different. I copied the fixed gear entries & set the vertical height 1 foot higher.

; FLOATS
point.5= 4, 7.333, -10.000, -8.50, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.6= 4, 7.333, 10.000, -8.50, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.7= 4, -21.333, -9.333, -7.70, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.8= 4, -21.333, 9.333, -7.70, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000

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Reply #12 - Feb 8^th, 2011 at 11:38am

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Hagar wrote on Feb 8^th, 2011 at 11:16am:

You can make anything float if you add the float entries to the Aircraft.cfg. [contact_points] section. I quickly modified an FS9 CH-47 to try it out. Use the default Goose Aircraft.cfg for reference.

http://www.simviation.com/phpupload/uploads/1297196999.jpg

These are my new Floats entries. Your point numbers & gear reference entries will obviously be different. I copied the fixed gear entries & set the vertical height 1 foot higher.

; FLOATS
point.5= 4, 7.333, -10.000, -8.50, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.6= 4, 7.333, 10.000, -8.50, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.7= 4, -21.333, -9.333, -7.70, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.8= 4, -21.333, 9.333, -7.70, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000

You're the man Hagar! I'm off to give it a try....thanks

"Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth and danced the skies on laughter silvered wings. Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun split clouds.....and done a hundred things you have never dreamed of.....wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence. Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"

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Reply #13 - Feb 8^th, 2011 at 12:30pm

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CHUCK79 wrote on Feb 8^th, 2011 at 11:38am:

Hagar wrote on Feb 8^th, 2011 at 11:16am:

You can make anything float if you add the float entries to the Aircraft.cfg. [contact_points] section. I quickly modified an FS9 CH-47 to try it out. Use the default Goose Aircraft.cfg for reference.

http://www.simviation.com/phpupload/uploads/1297196999.jpg

These are my new Floats entries. Your point numbers & gear reference entries will obviously be different. I copied the fixed gear entries & set the vertical height 1 foot higher.

; FLOATS
point.5= 4, 7.333, -10.000, -8.50, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.6= 4, 7.333, 10.000, -8.50, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.7= 4, -21.333, -9.333, -7.70, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.8= 4, -21.333, 9.333, -7.70, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000

You're the man Hagar! I'm off to give it a try....thanks

I can't make it work.......do I add these lines, or do they replace existing ones?
I added the lines and changed the point numbers. I think that the gear references are already correct.
It still sinks......the back end maybe is trying to float a little

"Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth and danced the skies on laughter silvered wings. Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun split clouds.....and done a hundred things you have never dreamed of.....wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence. Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"

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Reply #14 - Feb 8^th, 2011 at 1:20pm

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Mail me the original Aircraft.cfg & I'll have a peek at it.

I obviously can't try it without purchasing the aircraft.

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Reply #15 - Feb 8^th, 2011 at 2:05pm

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Hagar wrote on Feb 8^th, 2011 at 1:20pm:

Mail me the original Aircraft.cfg & I'll have a peek at it.

I obviously can't try it without purchasing the aircraft.

Sent. Thanks Hagar!
Also thank you Dave for the heads up on the chopper in the first place

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Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"

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Reply #16 - Feb 9^th, 2011 at 1:12pm

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It floats.....thanks to Hagar...and a little contact points tweaking by me (Hagar did not have the model to test on) and voila........ship shape, like it should have been in the first place

http://www.simviation.com/phpupload/uploads/1297334267.jpg

http://www.simviation.com/phpupload/uploads/1297328801.jpg

http://www.simviation.com/phpupload/uploads/1297344462.jpg

http://www.simviation.com/phpupload/uploads/1297300323.jpg

Here is what your contact points section in the Aircraft Cfg. file should look like to make tha MH-47 float:
EDIT
These are fixed, I accidently posted the original coordinates before. These will work

[contact_points]
static_pitch = 1.5
static_cg_height = 6.7
tailwheel_lock = 0
gear_system_type = 1
max_number_of_points = 13

point.0 = 1, -16, 0, -6, 4500, 0, 0.95, 30, 0.38, 1.8, 0.5, 0, 0, 0, 0, 300
point.1 = 1, 11, 4.65, -6.7, 3500, 2, 0.75, 0, 0.38, 1.26, 0.5, 0, 0, 3, 0, 300
point.2 = 1, 11, -4.65, -6.7, 3500, 1, 0.75, 0, 0.38, 1.26, 0.5, 0, 0, 2, 0, 300
point.3 = 3, -16, 5.3, -6, 4500, 2, 0.95, 0, 0.38, 1.8, 0.5, 0, 0, 3, 0, 300
point.4 = 3, -16, -5.3, -6, 4500, 1, 0.95, 0, 0.38, 1.8, 0.5, 0, 0, 2, 0, 300
point.5 = 2, 0, 25.5, 12, 4500, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, 0
point.6 = 2, 0, -25.5, 12, 4500, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6, 0, 0
point.7 = 2, 26.0722, 0, -0.9365, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 4, 0, 0
point.8 = 2, -26.013, 0, 2.7463, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 9, 0, 0

; FLOATS
point.9= 4, 11, 6.65, -7.7, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.10= 4, 11, -6.65, -7.7, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.11= 4, -16, 7.3, -7, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000
point.12= 4, -16, -7.3, -7, 2500, 0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0, 0, 5, 0.000, 0.000

Sorry about that.......I have uploaded a mod here at SimV that is just a drop in replacement Cfg file.....awaiting approval

With a little fiddlin' of the coordinates, this could be applied to any aircraft

« Last Edit: Feb 9^th, 2011 at 4:36pm by CHUCK79 »

"Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth and danced the skies on laughter silvered wings. Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun split clouds.....and done a hundred things you have never dreamed of.....wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence. Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"

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Reply #17 - Feb 9^th, 2011 at 4:11pm

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Awesome thanks guys

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Reply #18 - Mar 23^rd, 2011 at 7:25pm

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