Simviation Forum - Military Releases C-17 Crash Footage

Dec 13^th, 2010 at 10:38am

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Military Releases C-17 Crash Footage, out of respect for the families they don't show the tragic end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V7z1l8t7hA

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Reply #1 - Dec 13^th, 2010 at 12:30pm

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Wow that was a very steep bank. The C-17 is quite maneuverable for its size... but that was way too much bank for such a low altitude. Reminds me alot of the B-52 crash at Fairchild

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Reply #2 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 10:34am

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gtirob01 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2010 at 12:30pm:

Wow that was a very steep bank. The C-17 is quite maneuverable for its size... but that was way too much bank for such a low altitude. Reminds me alot of the B-52 crash at Fairchild

That is exactly what every one at work has said that has seen it now. Also the climb was way steeper then it was supposed to be, every one was surprised he did not fall straight down on take off.

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Reply #3 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 11:54am

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OVERLORD_CHRIS wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 10:34am:

gtirob01 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2010 at 12:30pm:

Wow that was a very steep bank. The C-17 is quite maneuverable for its size... but that was way too much bank for such a low altitude. Reminds me alot of the B-52 crash at Fairchild

That is exactly what every one at work has said that has seen it now. Also the climb was way steeper then it was supposed to be, every one was surprised he did not fall straight down on take off.

I thought the same... the climb was crazy steep. I was sure it was just gonna nose over and have the same end result.

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Reply #4 - Dec 23^rd, 2010 at 1:14am

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Did it crash because of the same reason the B-52 crashed, or because the wing, especially the right wing, stalled?

edit: here's the report http://www.pacaf.af.mil/library/aibreports/index.asp

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Reply #5 - Dec 24^th, 2010 at 10:22am

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Did it crash because of the same reason the B-52 crashed, or because the wing, especially the right wing, stalled?

edit: here's the report http://www.pacaf.af.mil/library/aibreports/index.asp

Even though you already know, for every one else, yes it did go down for the same reason as the B-52 did.

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Reply #6 - Dec 24^th, 2010 at 1:21pm

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gtirob01 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 11:54am:

I thought the same... the climb was crazy steep. I was sure it was just gonna nose over and have the same end result.

If he'd lost an engine in the initial climb he'd have certainly been very poorly placed to recover - hence why min climb speeds and max climb angles are published and/or calculated.

Then again, with the level of negligence shown, it's debatable as to whether he'd have appreciated that anyway.

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Reply #7 - Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 6:46am

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The reason why they were flying the way they did is because they were practicing and preparing for the airshow there at Elmendorf AFB thus were practicing the moves they were going to present to show the capabilities of the aircraft.

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Reply #8 - Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 4:59pm

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USAF_Firefighter wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 6:46am:

The reason why they were flying the way they did is because they were practicing and preparing for the airshow there at Elmendorf AFB thus were practicing the moves they were going to present to show the capabilities of the aircraft.

Agreed... I've seen them do that climb at airshows before... It's probablly a best angle (Vx) climb.

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Reply #9 - Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 9:55pm

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-Crossfire- wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 4:59pm:

USAF_Firefighter wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 6:46am:

The reason why they were flying the way they did is because they were practicing and preparing for the airshow there at Elmendorf AFB thus were practicing the moves they were going to present to show the capabilities of the aircraft.

Agreed... I've seen them do that climb at airshows before... It's probablly a best angle (Vx) climb.

I highly doubt it for one reason, you can see him running out of momentum and airspeed towards the top. An aircraft should be able to sustain airspeed in a Vx climb. That was a zoom climb, being done by a pilot who was showboating. Apparently the Air Force did not learn their lesson after the B-52 crash.

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