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Dec 9th, 2010 at 9:33pm

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Something has happened that disturbs.  An icon has disppeared from our midst with very little said.  A few weeks ago, remarks indicated that 'Fozzer' had a parting of the ways with 'management'.  It seems to me, regardless of the difficulty, some acknowledgement of this gent's contributions over the years would  have been appropriate.  Personally, Paul's remarks were one of the highlights of this forum already sorely missed.  If, by posting this, I'm violating some rule then so be it and take your best shot - it may well be your only one.
 
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Reply #1 - Dec 9th, 2010 at 10:02pm

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I did ask in a fs 9 thread and goose egged for replies. I do miss his comments and wonder. I had taken the "management" as something in the "system" other than something in the forums though.
 
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Reply #2 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 3:11am
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Steve M wrote on Dec 9th, 2010 at 10:02pm:
I did ask in a fs 9 thread and goose egged for replies. I do miss his comments and wonder. I had taken the "management" as something in the "system" other than something in the forums though.   


With the management I meant the mods and admins of this very website. Paul made a comment about something and that got him banned.

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Reply #3 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 3:21am

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Steve M wrote on Dec 9th, 2010 at 10:02pm:
I did ask in a fs 9 thread and goose egged for replies. I do miss his comments and wonder. I had taken the "management" as something in the "system" other than something in the forums though.   


With the management I meant the mods and admins of this very website. Paul made a comment about something and that got him banned.

Carlo.


Okay that clears it up, thanks Carlo.
 
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Reply #4 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 3:28am
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It's also one of the reasons why I'm thinking about leaving soon. Simviation isn't Simviation anymore. Not only because of Paul, there are more things going on here.

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Reply #5 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 4:32am

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It's also one of the reasons why I'm thinking about leaving soon. Simviation isn't Simviation anymore. Not only because of Paul, there are more things going on here.

Carlo.


I've actually left here several times for six months or more at a time and people barely paid my absence any notice. Last time one individual bothered to IM me to find out why.

I've been in serious debate mode for some time about why I bother with coming to this forum. It seems I'm mostly ignored anyway.

I agree with you, when I first came here in 2002, it was a fun forum.
 
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Reply #6 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 5:16am

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I too, miss Paul. I enjoyed his posts and got many good laughs from them, as I do yours Rom. And you are wrong, you too would be missed. And like Paul, the only reason I would not contact you, is I don't know how. I

have less than a handful of email addresses for anyone here, and most are because of sending or receiving files to help each other out. But I feel that I have more friends that I don't have emails for. I just don't feel

comfortable asking, "hey, can I have your email address in case I want to contact you outside the fourm at some point?" Change is usually inevitable, but not always for the best. And I hate adversity and conflict. I just

wish we could all get along. Maybe I'm puffing smoke, but I think one has to be here to try to change things for the better. I don't like some of the things going on in my country, but if I moved somewhere else, I could not

do anything about it. I still might not be able to staying, but at least I can try.
 
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Reply #7 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 12:30pm
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Rom, you are one of the major contributors to the humour forum so you will be missed if you would leave.

Larry, I know, leaving isn't the solution. But I honoustly wouldn't know how to get this forum back to the state it was in a couple of years ago. It used to be a friendly forum with a lot of laughs and some great posts and threads. Now? Everyone is tiptoeing around, scared to piss someone off. The fact that Paul got banned sucks and it sucks hard. He was one of the most funny persons I ever met online and believe me, I've met a lot of people this way. I don't know what he wrote exactly in that post but unless he threadened or insulted the people in charge here, I couldn't imagine a reason to kick him out.

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Reply #8 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 2:52pm

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Rom, you are one of the major contributors to the humour forum so you will be missed if you would leave.

Larry, I know, leaving isn't the solution. But I honestly wouldn't know how to get this forum back to the state it was in a couple of years ago. It used to be a friendly forum with a lot of laughs and some great posts and threads. Now? Everyone is tiptoeing around, scared to piss someone off. The fact that Paul got banned sucks and it sucks hard. He was one of the most funny persons I ever met online and believe me, I've met a lot of people this way. I don't know what he wrote exactly in that post but unless he threatened or insulted the people in charge here, I couldn't imagine a reason to kick him out.

Carlo


This isn't the only place where things like this are happening.
Many of the Flight Sim Forums are locking threads whenever there's the slightest appearance that a flame war is going to occur; trying to be 'politically correct', I guess.  Huh

It's too bad that happened to Paul; I always found his comments to be humorous and never confrontational.

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Reply #9 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 3:33pm

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Well locking or deleting threads is milder than booting someone out that has been around for years. I've only been signed in for 2+ years but was reading threads long before. I notice when someone hasn't posted for a while, but like Larry said, there's usually no way to to contact. Fozz must have had way to much of that California red wine that day. Maybe it's being too nosey but I am still curious, as to the crime at hand.  Huh
 
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Reply #10 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 4:14pm

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I'll try to keep my distance from this as much as possible since I don't know the facts or reasoning behind it, but I simply can't believe this has happened. He's always extremely helpful and kind to me and everyone else as far as I know.

@ Rom: Whenever you leave there are multiple threads asking what happened to you.  Wink

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Reply #11 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 4:25pm

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B-Valvs wrote on Dec 10th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
@ Rom: Whenever you leave there are multiple threads asking what happened to you.  Wink

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Well, I guess I must have missed them then... Undecided


 
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Reply #12 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 5:25pm

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Romulus111VADT wrote on Dec 10th, 2010 at 4:25pm:
B-Valvs wrote on Dec 10th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
@ Rom: Whenever you leave there are multiple threads asking what happened to you.  Wink

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Well, I guess I must have missed them then... Undecided




Well, you're always gone!  Cheesy Wink Grin

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Reply #13 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 5:38pm

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Paul's still around, you just have to know where & when to look.  Wink

 
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Reply #14 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 5:58pm
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ShaneG wrote on Dec 10th, 2010 at 5:38pm:
Paul's still around, you just have to know where & when to look.  Wink



I know.

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