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Nov 21st, 2010 at 11:28am

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Goodly morning all... Smiley

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Was at the bugsmasher field yesterday and this topic came up with some great ideas amongs some old retired rocking chair flying geezers.     Grin

Topic:  International orange and white checkerboard markings related to aviation.  Where did the idea come from and when did it start?

Answers:  At least some thoughts anyways.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/publications/tp14371-aga-6-0-3096.htm

Transport Canada and the American FAA paint some navigational aids like VORs and their buildings in the international orange and white checkerboard markings.

Power Line Towers, towers which carry hydor lines across bodies of water like rivers are marked in the international orange and white markings.

Power Line Towers which are close to an approach to airports and airport runways are marked in the international orange and white markings.

All lighted poles and line carrying poles on flight lines, military and commercial are painted in international orange and white markings.

Many military and civilian hangar roofs were painted in the international orange and white checkerboard markings to aid aviators.

Airfield Control Towers were painted in the international orange and white checkerboard markings to aid the aviator as light signals were used because some aircraft had no radios.

At one time aircraft landed in a landing circle rather than on a runway and a large wooden arrow on the ground painted in international orange and white checkerboard markings was used for wind direction to aid the aviators.

Water Towers were painted with the international orange and white checkerboard design with the name of the village, town or city on the water tower.  Perhaps this was to aid aviators as well.  Not sure.

FURTHER THOUGHTS BUT NOT SUPPORTED WITH FACTS

The Purina Feed Company in the United States might have had some barn roofs painted red and white in the checkerboard design for advertising.
But:
Around our area I have only seen some barns with the red and white checkerboard Purina Trademark painted on the road side of the barn.  Not all that large either, about the size of a garage door to a home.

http://www.purinamills.com/ourheritage/default.aspx

Some thought was also given to some farm barn roofs being painted red and white checkerboard during the early mail flights in the United States to help the avaitors with navigation.  Not sure how true that was either.

Conclusion:
I have not found much information on the painting of farm barn roofs in international orange and white checkerboard markings for aviation use.

Not entirely sure when or where the international orange and white checkerboard design did come from.

Perhaps this international orange and white checkerboard design started somewhere in Europe or part of the United Kingdom.

Comments and advice most welcome... Wink

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Reply #1 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 2:35am

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Reply #2 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 4:45am

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Flying Trucker wrote on Nov 21st, 2010 at 11:28am:
Not entirely sure when or where the international orange and white checkerboard design did come from.

Perhaps this international orange and white checkerboard design started somewhere in Europe or part of the United Kingdom.

I don't recall seeing anything painted like this in the UK. Obstructions like buildings & chimneys over a certain height have to be be fitted with warning lights.
 

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Reply #3 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 9:38am

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Goodly morning all and a cold wet day it is here... Smiley

Thanks Webb and Doug for the comments.

The first link is a link to a Transport Canada Information site.
It shows just what Doug mentioned that tall structures are lighted and gives information on the type of lighting to be used.
It also shows that tall structures like towers around airports or seaplane bases are painted as well as lighted.

The international orange and white checkerboard symbol has been around these parts for as long as I have been aviating and that is more than six decades... Grin

Sure would like to find more info on it.    Smiley

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Reply #4 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 10:54am

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I remember seeing a few roof tops in the Purina theme back in the sixties in the hills of South Carolina Doug. And of course, Meridian NAS had a lot of checkerboard when I went to see the Blue Angels.
 

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Reply #5 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:43pm

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Thanks Larry... Smiley

The Purina company logo I believe is a red and white checkerboard design and I think the aids to navigation are done in International Orange and White checkerboard.

Like most "Windsocks" are International Orange.

http://www.airportwindsocks.com/windsocks-c-13.html?zenid=sovpa9h9ujm274cdpv4l2p...

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Reply #6 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 1:11pm

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Flying Trucker wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:43pm:
Like most "Windsocks" are International Orange.

http://www.airportwindsocks.com/windsocks-c-13.html?zenid=sovpa9h9ujm274cdpv4l2p...

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

Windsocks used to be yellow.

I just discovered that International Orange is the name of the colour shade, like Navy Blue. Never heard it called that before. http://goldengatebridge.org/research/facts.php#PaintedIntnlOrange

When I was in town today I spotted the jib of a construction crane is painted orange & white. First time I've noticed it.
 

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Reply #7 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 1:49pm

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Good afternoon all... Smiley

RE: Windsock and colour code

Part way down page gives colour code.

http://www.adwareflags.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21&Itemi...

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Reply #8 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 2:58pm

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Hagar wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 4:45am:
I don't recall seeing anything painted like this in the UK. Obstructions like buildings & chimneys over a certain height have to be be fitted with warning lights.


There are a few:

http://www.century20war.co.uk/page22.html

In my experience, in the UK it tends to be confined to vehicles and structures which are closer to active runways - namely runway caravans (the place where historically a Cpl sits and fires a red verey if your wheels aren't down!) and navigational/instrument approach aid huts and buildings. Air Trg Corps glider control caravans tend to have them too. Smiley
 
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Reply #9 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 3:03pm

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C wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 2:58pm:
Hagar wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 4:45am:
I don't recall seeing anything painted like this in the UK. Obstructions like buildings & chimneys over a certain height have to be be fitted with warning lights.


There are a few:

http://www.century20war.co.uk/page22.html

In my experience, in the UK it tends to be confined to vehicles and structures which are closer to active runways - namely runway caravans (the place where historically a Cpl sits and fires a red verey if your wheels aren't down!) and navigational/instrument approach aid huts and buildings. Air Trg Corps glider control caravans tend to have them too. Smiley

I should have said outside airfield boundaries. Even for things like control caravans the orange & white check is comparatively new in this country. When I did my ATC gliding courses most things on the airfield were either painted RAF blue/grey or yellow. The vehicles were blue/grey & the winches were yellow. The gliders were silver with yellow training bands.
 

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Reply #10 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 3:31pm

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Thanks "C" for the link...great site and good read... Smiley

Thanks Doug, I remember most Royal Canadian Air Force vehicles being that blue/grey colour.  (There was a name for that colour but can not remember it).

Shall keep searching for information on the international orange and white checkerboard markings.... Wink

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Reply #11 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 6:19pm

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Flying Trucker wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 3:31pm:
Thanks "C" for the link...great site and good read... Smiley

Thanks Doug, I remember most Royal Canadian Air Force vehicles being that blue/grey colour.  (There was a name for that colour but can not remember it).

Shall keep searching for information on the international orange and white checkerboard markings.... Wink

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

I remember when most, if not all U.S. Navy ground vehicles were Battleship Gray. There were a few of those in Lynn & Bill Lyons Pearl Harbor scenery for FS9.
 

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Reply #12 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 6:40pm

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Another site for info I found.
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/regserv/cars/part6-standards-62119-2447.ht...



" 3.1.1 Standard Colours of Paint

Alternate sections of international orange (hereafter to be referred to as "orange") and white paint provide maximum visibility of an obstruction by contrast of colours.

Subject to section 3.1.2, where alternate sections of orange and white paint markings are required under these standards, the colours of paint markings should conform with the United States Federal Standard FED-STD-595, namely:

(a) Orange no. 12197; and

(b) White no. 17875.  "

 

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Reply #13 - Nov 23rd, 2010 at 3:21am

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Here's the FAA regulations effective August 1, 2000. http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/syste...

UK regulations for obstructions in the vicinity of licensed aerodromes come under Section 47 of the Civil Aviation Act 1982. http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+Primary&PageNumber=46&NavF...
 

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Reply #14 - Nov 23rd, 2010 at 12:50pm

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That is another good site Steve...thanks... Smiley

Thanks for the links Doug... Smiley

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