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What would be the reason to me for continuing? (Read 582 times)
Nov 20th, 2010 at 2:32pm

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Referring of what happened recently of a site taking my airplane model in the most coward way ,I now ask my self what is the point of Digging into days and nights working very hard for free ,investigating all about and airplane ,details , making gauges ,bitmaps ,painting looking hundreds of photos ,headaches ,migraines, no sleep (I give my man's word this is true 100% I'm not exaggerating )
for what?


the only excuse I made to myself was to have exclusively  to my site ,to try to make another fun site, to have at least something good of my own to the people ..

I hope all this stays only in that pirate place and not other similar pirates sites ,follow them ..

I hope Magic encouragement comes back to my mind ,because my models aren't the best and there are many other models , but you will lost another freeware designer's work forever . and trust me I don't like that either ,Hope the magic comes back to my mind and soon!

Something happens two days ago ,I hope this will be the encourage I need , to resume something I love to make it, to work and then give it free, THE DONATION option which seems so far is also worthless ,Only Pete and Applepie(
Without me asking to then to do this
and voluntary both put some money in there ,Appplepie made the best 5 repaints ,and Pete done a lot for me and that site he gave me for free. ( I have tried and this cost money ,there is the Domain name and I host a site which I can upload my own files to be download, if I have to paid I wouldn't can't afford this)

yet the FSND site still is and empty and loneliest site ever ..once again here is another prove of one more of another  failure of mine ,  ..

all I see now is all is worthless ,Its wasted time ,just saw three new videos on youtube ,no name or credit ,I wrote in the read me file To please be nice and name in the information the site and the author(s) of this very and long time dedicated  hard work. I was begging ,people ignore it as usual . they just enjoy..

People has said in the citation X ,citation 500 ,other and this MD83 that has characteristic of a payware

I wish to ask, Give me a reason please,and put yourself in my place for and instant , why go to the next proyect?
Give me one true reason please..


why would I willing to go and resume the  Citation Sovereign ,
These are airplanes I won't enjoy ,I don't fly in them to my self ,I made it for the joy of other FREE ,also my joy is to see others enjoying my models
 

some one here told me Don't specs for feedbacks   Good advise! , and I say to myself It will be simv and fsnd release (when I release the Citation X 750 last year the pirate site did exact the same 12 hours latter they had it ,I send them and email,they remove it) I felt I could control and avoid other sites to do what they want ,
I wasn't counting with this . 


  Thank you for reading this

Alex  



 

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Reply #1 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 3:03pm

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I've enjoyed many many hours of flying your aircraft Alex. And for that I thank you kindly.
Now, I can tell you this type of stealing goes on in all walks of life. People across the world donate to charities and disaster funds often to find the aid never got to the people it was intended for. I have even had people I work with take credit for my ideas.
Your work is remembered by the honest members of the simming hobby. I hope you decide to continue on and ignore the ignorant thieves.
 

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Reply #2 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 3:16pm

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Alex, if you quit, it would be a huge loss to not only SimV, but to the flight sim world too. I know and agree with you about your feelings on the subject. However, just to take the opposite view for a moment. Even if a certain site is ignoring your wishes and effectively stealing from you, as it stands you cannot do anything about it, you are getting to be know world wide as a dam good FS aircraft builder. I would imagine your fan base will be a lot larger due to this site (though that is not a justification for their actions). I know that is right now no comfort to your feelings, but that is the way of the Internet today. National borders and laws do not mean a thing in the next country as far as the Internet is concerned and people are quite willing and openly to use this problem to full extent.
If I may put my point forward, you have to learn to live with this, chill out and continue to produce first rate aircraft for the simulation community. If you left, it would be our huge loss. Until you make the big step of going commercial (and I know how hard that would be in your country right now), just sit back and know what a world wide influence you have made to freeware.

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Reply #3 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 3:27pm

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I understand how you feel Alex, and all I can say on this subject, is look at why you are doing this model making.

If you are truly just doing this so that others can enjoy it, then you have succeeded in your goal,
and the knowledge that so many do enjoy your work should be your reason to continue.

Only the rich and famous with high price lawyers can control what others do on the internets, (Metallica vs. Napster)
so there is no point in getting yourself worked up over what people are doing with your files,
the best thing you can do is look at the positive side of it.
More people are getting to enjoy your work, and by naming Simviation in your read me,
you are ensuring that they will come here in the future to see what else you'll have to offer the FS community.  Wink

I wish someone liked my repaint work enough to take it and spread it around.  I would take that as a compliment, not an insult.  Grin  Wink

Don't become a Mike Stone, we would all miss you too much.  Wink

This is a hobby, not a job, and when you stop having fun and treat it like work or real life, then that's when you've lost the point of it all.  Wink
« Last Edit: Nov 20th, 2010 at 8:00pm by ShaneG »  
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Reply #4 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 5:38pm

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Quote:
Only the rich and famous can control what others do on the internet


Even B Gates has no control over what happens on the internet or who downloads all the M$  software for free.

No one controls the internet -- that is what is so great about it -- & of course there is a downside (theft etc) but I was listening to a classical music show today and apparently EVERY (100%) classical musician and artist that has made a career of their art has been ripped off for 99% of their income by the whole range of ways to make money without paying the creator. It's what happens. Be thankful Alex you haven't lost money.

Just relax about it Alex. It happens to ALL freeware and payware creators of everything in the entire digital world.

Yo are making a big thing but everyone suffers the same -- and usually worse.

 

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Reply #5 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 8:55pm

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He utilizado Google para traducir esto, así que me perdone si somethine no está bien.

Piense en ello como el de Alejandro, por favor a ti mismo en primer lugar. Ahora no puedo comparar mi pequeña contribución al simulador de vuelo a la suya por cualquier medio, pero no me preocupa lo que nadie pensó. Hice un lugar fresco (al menos creo que es genial) efecto de fuego para algunos modelos en mi sim, para mí. Yo estaba muy contento con la forma en que resultó que me decidí a subir para que otros lo disfruten. He oído de un total de cinco (quizá seis) personas que me dio las gracias, pero eso no me hace ninguna más o menos feliz que me sentía antes de O. No son nunca va a complacer a todos. Hacer lo que te gusta, y si te gusta lo que has hecho, compartirlo con otros.

Por lo que el robo se va, usted no debe dejar que eso te desanime. Fíjate en las mías:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=SEVERE+ENGINE+FIRE+EFFECT+LATARSK...
Yo sólo subido a tres sitios, ahora está en todas partes! No estoy loco por ella. De hecho, me siento halagado! Hice algo y subido de forma gratuita, y la gente todavía le "robó" TI! ¿No es genial?!?


Como se mencionó antes, si se detuvo en desarrollo, sería una gran pérdida para la comunidad simming, pero que tiene que hacer lo que sientes es adecuado para usted. No te preocupes por lo que piensen los demás. Wink
 

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Reply #6 - Nov 21st, 2010 at 1:41am

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Alrot,

You have made a terrific model, thank you!  All of your models are top notch and even get headlined here at SimV.  I hope you continue to create new freeware for us, I haven't had a single problem with any of your models.

I understand your anger, and I think it is bull crap that someone took your model and delivered it on another website, but you should see that as a compliment too, they see your work as true art and want to take credit for that. You don't see that with many other models.
 

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Reply #7 - Nov 21st, 2010 at 4:12pm

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Not everyone gives the correct acknowledgements, and not everyone likes to follow the rules, but that shouldn't stop you from producing aircraft.

As I said in the other thread, if it's really an issue, contact their website host and tell them to stop it. Ultimately they're the ones who are keeping your aircraft on their servers, and they will want to know that their hardware is being used to host things illegally. It appears a lot of people are annoyed about that website, so sort it out! You shouldn't stop because of certain people getting in the way, and there's no need to be too extreme, just tell your fellow designers to get together and you can help to prevent it from going on.

Ultimately they are profiteering from your success, and it's not right. But please, don't stop.
 

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Reply #8 - Nov 21st, 2010 at 4:26pm

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Groundbound1 wrote on Nov 20th, 2010 at 8:55pm:
He utilizado Google para traducir esto,


You don't want to use google translator ,trust me  Undecided


well I just jump into trying to fix the citation x to jump of this page (not literally this page) I mean this part and discussing thing about the thief site ..

  Its hard to do something so complex  ,this is more than what FSPirate does or did to me and does everyday with almost every designer of panel scenery and I was really surprise when I typed in google "Piracy FSPlanet "

I was checking some of the videos on youtube of this new airplane for my surprise there are like 8 and none of them mention the designer or even simviation., People ask where do you get this airplane? and that's when I see many selfish people. (I put in one was download it in my website look into my account ) and immediately was deleted
  I believe its a matter to get use to not spec  for feedbacks ,and that''s when I wonder ,what's left?

the only thing keeps me doing it ,is I like working and make this things ,of course is when I finish ,I won put it inside a cd and save it in a closet, it wouldn't have any point  ,I could get used to ,but when other things add more trouble like I'm taking your file because i can  or hey you stole my files that adds more things to deal .

I thought the hardest part was the VC ,but I believe its the release  Grin 

       
 

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Reply #9 - Nov 21st, 2010 at 4:53pm

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alrot wrote on Nov 21st, 2010 at 4:26pm:
Groundbound1 wrote on Nov 20th, 2010 at 8:55pm:
He utilizado Google para traducir esto,


You don't want to use google translator ,trust me  Undecided


well I just jump into trying to fix the citation x to jump of this page (not literally this page) I mean this part and discussing thing about the thief site ..

  Its hard to do something so complex  ,this is more than what FSPirate does or did to me and does everyday with almost every designer of panel scenery and I was really surprise when I typed in google "Piracy FSPlanet "

I was checking some of the videos on youtube of this new airplane for my surprise there are like 8 and none of them mention the designer or even simviation., People ask where do you get this airplane? and that's when I see many selfish people. (I put in one was download it in my website look into my account ) and immediately was deleted
  I believe its a matter to get use to not spec  for feedbacks ,and that''s when I wonder ,what's left?

the only thing keeps me doing it ,is I like working and make this things ,of course is when I finish ,I won put it inside a cd and save it in a closet, it wouldn't have any point  ,I could get used to ,but when other things add more trouble like I'm taking your file because i can  or hey you stole my files that adds more things to deal .

I thought the hardest part was the VC ,but I believe its the release  Grin 

       


Though I'm not currently in the screenshot thingy anymore I used to enjoy portraying your fantastic models. Maybe some of the people here who are more savvy in the fsvid making business can make some U-tube vids of your models and name the proper producer and Simv as well... I think that there will be some people willing to do this for you and Simv

An Idea perhaps?
 

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Reply #10 - Nov 21st, 2010 at 6:06pm

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That's a good idea, Souichiro.
 

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Reply #11 - Nov 21st, 2010 at 11:38pm

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Souichiro wrote on Nov 21st, 2010 at 4:53pm:
alrot wrote on Nov 21st, 2010 at 4:26pm:
Groundbound1 wrote on Nov 20th, 2010 at 8:55pm:
He utilizado Google para traducir esto,


You don't want to use google translator ,trust me  Undecided


well I just jump into trying to fix the citation x to jump of this page (not literally this page) I mean this part and discussing thing about the thief site ..

  Its hard to do something so complex  ,this is more than what FSPirate does or did to me and does everyday with almost every designer of panel scenery and I was really surprise when I typed in google "Piracy FSPlanet "

I was checking some of the videos on youtube of this new airplane for my surprise there are like 8 and none of them mention the designer or even simviation., People ask where do you get this airplane? and that's when I see many selfish people. (I put in one was download it in my website look into my account ) and immediately was deleted
  I believe its a matter to get use to not spec  for feedbacks ,and that''s when I wonder ,what's left?

the only thing keeps me doing it ,is I like working and make this things ,of course is when I finish ,I won put it inside a cd and save it in a closet, it wouldn't have any point  ,I could get used to ,but when other things add more trouble like I'm taking your file because i can  or hey you stole my files that adds more things to deal .

I thought the hardest part was the VC ,but I believe its the release  Grin 

       


Though I'm not currently in the screenshot thingy anymore I used to enjoy portraying your fantastic models. Maybe some of the people here who are more savvy in the fsvid making business can make some U-tube vids of your models and name the proper producer and Simv as well... I think that there will be some people willing to do this for you and Simv

An Idea perhaps?



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