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Is this the Ident panel? (Read 1894 times)
Oct 28
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, 2010 at 4:36pm
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My biggest issue its about making the most realistic airplane to the real life md 80-83
I do have a problem and I think I found what I was looking for ,I ask ,Is this panel is to set the Ident NAV1&2 selector?
In some other I read this and I made that panel with the following words as a read it
VHF-1
VHF-2
INT
PA
VOR-DME -ILS
and two big switches below that says ADF 1 and 2
they are only buttoms no Knobs as I saw one of the Photos
Please I need your help,Is this the panel of set the Ident Nav1 and Nav 2 ,ILS etc?????
Venezuela
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Oct 28
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, 2010 at 6:03pm
SeanTK
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If I am interpreting the term ident correctly, you would be correct, sir!
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Oct 28
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If I am interpreting the term ident correctly, you would be correct, sir!
I really don't know what they call it
But in the 737-400 we use to call it like that remember FS2004? ,
the buttoms to make the airplane follow or fly tracking the Nav frequencies inbound outbound etc there got to be one for each nav1 and nav2 and even both
Oh God I'm so idiot right now
Its even difficult to explain it in my own language.
I hope these panel is not just the Radio Comm ,the one the pilot use to talk to ground or ATC ,I found a photo were it seems like a headphone set plug it in in this pŕnel
these thing are delaying me a lot ,and now the upper console with like 10 gauges saying AMP VOLTS and like 12 saying APU ,in Boeing there's only ONE area to start the airplane
I have a PDF doc of a MD 80 but is the analog way No digital , If some one would help me to find the Digital system
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Oct 28
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, 2010 at 7:39pm
SeanTK
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Alex,
That panel would not swap the frequencies between radios. It's mainly just an audio panel for choosing what radio systems to listen to.
Pressing the nav 1 button for example on that panel would allow you to hear the Morse code signal for whatever you are tuned into.
The navigation radio (or comm for that matter) itself should have a little arrow icon or similar (just like the default radio stack) for switching the actual frequencies between the radios.
Just to be extra clear, the panel in question is essentially
equivalent
to the
circled
part here:
Those little yellow buttons under each frequency area are for actually switching the frequencies. Once again, the top row buttons are only there to:
1. Confirm the navigation station for the navigation radios.
2. Listen to/use different comm radios.
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Oct 28
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, 2010 at 7:51pm
SeanTK
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Also, here's a nice clear image of the digital system, complete with mostly clear orange warning lights:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iberia/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-87/0245808/L/
I think the only differences with the analogue and digital systems is that portion at the bottom of the screen with all of those warnings.
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Oct 28
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Also, here's a nice clear image of the digital system, complete with mostly clear orange warning lights:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iberia/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-87/0245808/L/
I think the only differences with the analogue and digital systems is that portion at the bottom of the screen with all of those warnings.
that was one of the first thing I made by using that Photo plus another one similar and the super 80 pdf ,I already made the upper panel, My problem is that I'm not familiar with many Buttoms and and gauges, So far I have made consoles of Boeing ,
Of course this is not a real airplane ,but I'm trying to set all the starting sequence according to the real one very most alike as I can ,Many will be Dummies perhaps the 60% of all these
http://www.simviation.com/phpupload/uploads/1288390901.jpg
I can't even get to the APU sequence ,there is like three areas which it says APU ,..which one it is?
Why they put those radios in that panel ,I mean in the black panel ,if we have to swap in the radios behind the throttle console?
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back to the panel in question
the MD 80 doesn't have stand by due to the way it is in the black panel
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta-Air-Lines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-88/0280939/L...
so your saying that that little panel does select like in this well known MSFS gauge?
http://www.simviation.com/phpupload/uploads/1288389216.jpg
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Oct 28
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Alrot - I believe you are correct about both buttons having an ident function.
In the aircraft I have flown, the radio itself usually has an Ident button or setting, and the audio panel (which is what I believe you have pictured in your first post on this thread) has a Nav 1/2 button to turn the audio on. In the real aircraft, you usually have to use both buttons. In flight sim, I think either button does the job of both.
Dave
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Oct 28
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, 2010 at 9:39pm
SeanTK
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Alex,
About the radios....you are correct. Same function.
Now for the APU stuff. Please realize that I am in no way an "expert" on this.....
(Note: Those are standard generator switches, not "APU Generator switches". I was not thinking when I labeled them.")
Your standard battery switch for the aircraft should be under where I labeled. Works like any battery switch.
Next, turn on that single fuel pump switch I circled. This will provide fuel to the APU engine.
If you have a power cart/ external power available, flip that appropriate row of switches up to connect external power to the aircraft. The blue lights should light up.
Start the APU with the APU master switch. You should see the two gauges above that section (temp and rpm) start to move as it reads the status of the APU.
Next, flip the switches to the APU power bus on. The blue lights should light up I believe.
You can now disconnect the external power.
Turn the remaining fuel pumps on.
Press those switches to the left of the fuel pumps to start the right and left engines.
Once engines are started, turn on the generator switches.
I accidentally labeled them as APU generator switches without thinking.
Those should be the
normal
generator switches you turn on after engine start.
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Oct 29
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, 2010 at 10:35am
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Wow! thanks Sean , Yes as David saids I had another thread and due that nobuddy answer I delete it .
believe it or not making airplanes is a certain way to me its easy, but I have real hard times figuring out how does the real life airplanes works ,it happends with the Citation X with the 707 ,727
Ironic, Isn't it? the majority have more problems to export in gmax a model or has many other design issues, I making even gauges .
Now we can't do like in the FS2004 times when you could put anything you want in the cockpit ,no matter if doesn't even looks like and airplane's vc ,we can't do that today ,besides is unethical .
I'm living in a "Special Place" where is not easy like going to the airport and talk to a pilot(you can go to jail just for that) or having these "Airshows" the only way I can get near the airplane is thru Internet, we use to have airshows but everything is so dark here today ,If you know what I mean.
Anything you or anyone would like to add ,Information ,Tips about Md 80s for me its like gold , there's not need to be precise ,but your info of the APU starting sequence will help me a lot ,and trust me when I say ,This plane is in delay because this.
I went loking PDFs all over the internet ,but Jezz!
Internet have really change ,everything is for sale ,even a stupid rubber floor texture cost like $20..much more expencive than the real rubber its self
http://basementremodelingguide.com/basement-flooring/
thanks Sean
Alex
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Oct 29
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Alex
The photo you 1st showed is actually the microphone volume control panel. It only controls the output volume of your microphone. Operating manual, Section 10 Page 4 show a different version/same controls.
Dave
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Oct 29
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1olehippy wrote
on Oct 29
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, 2010 at 12:38pm:
Alex
The photo you 1st showed is actually the microphone volume control panel. It only controls the output volume of your microphone. Operating manual, Section 10 Page 4 show a different version/same controls.
Dave
thanks
then where is the sets of the navs?
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Oct 29
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1olehippy wrote
on Oct 29
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, 2010 at 12:38pm:
Alex
The photo you 1st showed is actually the microphone volume control panel. It only controls the output volume of your microphone. Operating manual, Section 10 Page 4 show a different version/same controls.
Dave
I would question your response, because that looks entirely like the audio panel. If you zoom in, you will see the selectors for Nav1 Nav2 and Marker Beacon listed there as well, just like any other aircraft's audio panel will have.
Dave
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Oct 29
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I already make a Dummy of this part (can be also change)
based on my paint art I made of the of the upper console (this panel is in three sides in the pilot left side, the copilot right side and the upper console)
you can see better here
Indeed in the super 80 operating manual it says is some kind of communication voice and volume device ,I hope these people made a mistake because as David says It really looks like the nav1&nav2 selector
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Oct 29
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, 2010 at 10:12pm
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Alex
Found your answer. It's both voice & ident panel.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Monarch-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-DC-10-30/06216...
Check the center switch on the bottom. It switches between voice & ident.
Dave
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Oct 30
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1olehippy wrote
on Oct 29
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, 2010 at 10:12pm:
Alex
Found your answer. It's both voice & ident panel.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Monarch-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-DC-10-30/06216...
Check the center switch on the bottom. It switches between voice & ident.
Dave
thank you Dave ,David & Sean ,I'm going to make it like this ,the same panel is in three parts of the VC ,Ill assume has to eb like that ,besides its taking a lot time ,the airplane will be ready soon
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