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Reply #45 - Jan 16th, 2011 at 6:53am

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Spindrift wrote on Jan 15th, 2011 at 6:53pm:
littlebenny wrote on Jan 15th, 2011 at 3:58am:
Spindrift wrote on Dec 27th, 2010 at 6:50pm:
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kill the ultralight, not many people flew it.



... I flew it....  Grin

Ah, well. no matter, everything else you suggested is GRAND! 'specialy the DC3!

Keep' em coming folks!  Smiley

the ultralight was for the dummys and those first missions , they will propably include it in flight too if they want to reach a bigger public and turn them into real simmers


Um... thanks for the compliment there Lil' Benny! I've been called worse... Wink

BrandonF wrote on Jan 15th, 2011 at 2:21pm:
I fly the ultralight from time to time even though I'm a great virtual pilot that can fly just about anything in the sim.  Cheesy The ultralight lets you sit back and enjoy the scenery and not make you focus on actually flying it.


And that's why you're awesome Brandon! Grin

Smiley

the ultralight for me is an airlane for those first missions and when you get new scenery to check it out but that's it but i can see thet you fly it there will always be persons who fly something like that
 

just a pair of long wings and some rising air.
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Reply #46 - Jan 16th, 2011 at 7:56pm

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   I'm a low & slow kinduva "pilot", so I'd like to see some manufacturers like Aeronca, Diamond, Cirrus, Beechcraft, Grumman and Piper.

   Definate Picks:

Beechcraft V 35 B Bonanza (just put this one in the line up)
Cessna 162 Skycatcher (with the proper Garmin G300 panel)
Cessna 182 Skylane
    [*definately bring this one back*, (and preferably with a choice of fixed or retractable gear and an analog panel or G1000 glass panel)]
Cirrus SR 20/22 (with proper Avidyne Entegra glass panel)
Cubcrafters Cub Sport S 2 (with the new panels) Check 'em out @ http://www.cubcrafters.com/sportcubs2/options
Diamond Katana (preferably with a choice of analog or glass panel)


   Some models I'd like to see:

Aeronca AC 7
Cessna 150 (with the old skool, no frills cockpit/panel)
Cessna 172 RG Cutlass (with the old skool, no frills cockpit/panel)
Diamond DA 42 Twin Star
Grumman AA 5 Cheetah/Tiger
Piper J 3 Cub (keep this one in the mix please)
Piper PA 18 Super Cub
Piper PA 28 Cherokee 140/180 (Pleeeez make this a nice, "flyable" aircraft)
Piper PA 23 Apache
Piper PA 31 Navajo


   The rest of the aircraft are AI in MY sim world.  Cool

Semper Fi,

Dave
 
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Reply #47 - Jan 16th, 2011 at 9:49pm

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New Light wrote on Jan 16th, 2011 at 7:56pm:
   I'm a low & slow kinduva "pilot", so I'd like to see some manufacturers like Aeronca, Diamond, Cirrus, Beechcraft, Grumman and Piper.

   Definate Picks:

Beechcraft V 35 B Bonanza (just put this one in the line up)
Cessna 162 Skycatcher (with the proper Garmin G300 panel)
Cessna 182 Skylane
    [*definately bring this one back*, (and preferably with a choice of fixed or retractable gear and an analog panel or G1000 glass panel)]
Cirrus SR 20/22 (with proper Avidyne Entegra glass panel)
Cubcrafters Cub Sport S 2 (with the new panels) Check 'em out @ http://www.cubcrafters.com/sportcubs2/options
Diamond Katana (preferably with a choice of analog or glass panel)


   Some models I'd like to see:

Aeronca AC 7
Cessna 150 (with the old skool, no frills cockpit/panel)
Cessna 172 RG Cutlass (with the old skool, no frills cockpit/panel)
Diamond DA 42 Twin Star
Grumman AA 5 Cheetah/Tiger
Piper J 3 Cub (keep this one in the mix please)
Piper PA 18 Super Cub
Piper PA 28 Cherokee 140/180 (Pleeeez make this a nice, "flyable" aircraft)
Piper PA 23 Apache
Piper PA 31 Navajo


   The rest of the aircraft are AI in MY sim world.  Cool

Semper Fi,

Dave


Ditto on everything! You're my kinda pilot Dave! and those SportCubs are sharp enough to cut you!

Smiley
 

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Reply #48 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 9:40am

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   Hey Spindrift, I was going to suggest the newer Top Cub version when I did a last minute check of the Cubcrafters site  while makig the list (haven't been there in a while) and got a load of the S 2 and the new choice of panels. That plane is friggin' niiice.

   It seems that Garmin and FS have had a good working relationship over the years, at least since FS9 was developed - maybe longer. Just that fact would indicate that the possibilty to include these newer Garmin products should be within the reach of FS's ability to deliver a good sim version and for Garmin products to be more exposed.

   Anyway, Garmin can furthur expose their products on the market along with Diamond aircraft. Diamonds come with analog panels but can also be outfitted with the G1000 glass cockpits. Diamond has a good chance to furthur work it's brand name into the market and take a bigger "cut of the pie" through Garmin's relationship with FS. The DA 20 Katanas (with different engines and horsepowers) seem to be main staple in Diamond's sliver in the GA market. Diamond can use the oppurtunity to showcase their smaller twin engine DA 42 Twin Star and their new D-Jet, which is in a new category of aircraft called Very Light Jets (VLJ) that can be flown by a single pilot. Both have Garmin glass panels.

   Also, FS has had a really good working relationship with Cessna. It seems that Cessna has a golden oppurtunity to showcase their new 162 Skycatcher. Garmin, again, has an equal oppurtunity to showcase their newer G300 which is standard equiment on all Skycatchers (as far as know). I think both companies can exploit the same success with the new Skylane with the G1000 with Synthetic Vision Technology (SVT) and fixed gear (it doesn't seem that there is an RG version on newer Skylanes) but maybe an older version with an analog panel with retractable gear can be placed in the line up.

   Aspen is another company that, as far I know, has no relationship with FS. It's another glass panel small enough to be retrofitted into small aircraft that can be seen at their website @ http://www.aspenavionics.com/index.php/customergallery  They may have a chance to expose their Evolution line of products. They do service some older aircraft. It might be a long shot for them, but it may be worth a try for them.

   Avidyne Entegra can expand it's market in FS, but since Eaglesoft Development Group have done an awesome job with their Cirrus', Columbias, Liberty's, etc., they would probably keep FS at a distance, but who knows...

   Again, as I stated above, there are your basic, old skool, no frills panels/cockpits. They can be made nice looking,  remain fully functional, and still challenge just about any "pilot's" skills.

   A couple of company's relationships with FS are kinda kooky - Piper and DeHavilland. FS has made a nice version of the J 3 Cub, but has totally sh!t on the PA 28 Cherokee. What's up with that? It's nice trainer plane. It's not a high wing aircraft like the Cessna. Even though they are soppose to be direct competion, a low wing trainer ia different animal altogether. Some have tried to make it "flyable" but have fallen way short of acceptable. Why keep a useless pos in the line up? Make it a good, "flyable" aircraft or replace it with a Swift or a Cheetah/Tiger. Same thing with the DeHavilland Dash 8 100; it's a good "stepping stone" from the King Air 350 to the Bombardier Learjet 45. Why not make that a good "flyable" aircraft too? FS has a nice, "flyable" DeHavilland DHC 2 Beaver, neither one of those aircraft pose a threat to any other aircraft in the line up.

Semper Fi,

Dave

 
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Reply #49 - Apr 5th, 2011 at 3:05am

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My list:

737-800
747-8
767-400ER
777-200LR
777-300ER
787-8
A320
A380
Citation X
C172
C182T
F-22
F-35
Wright Flyer (not joking)
EH-101
AH-64
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It would also be cool to have real world airlines (eg. American Airlines) instead of fictional airlines (eg. World Travel Airlines)
 

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Reply #50 - May 2nd, 2011 at 6:18pm

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There's only really one plane I would like other that the norm airliners (Boeing, Airbus), and that is
CONCORDE!!!!!!!!!!! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
At the moment I cant find any desent payware or freeware addons for it  Cry
PLEASE MS!
Wink Grin Smiley Cheesy Shocked Cool Roll Eyes   
 

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Why wait!

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Reply #51 - Jun 2nd, 2011 at 2:02am

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I'd like to see airplanes that make a little bit of smoke! I'll take anything from Douglas, or the early generation of Boeing jets. But then again, tell me someone at Microsoft has heard of a BAC-1-11 before.  Roll Eyes

Far too often, the good old classics are dismissed for the planes with shiny buttons and gauges. I hope that's not true with Flight....
 
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Reply #52 - Jun 2nd, 2011 at 6:29am

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My list:

BBJ2
737-800
737-900ER
747-8 Series
767 Series
A380
A330
A320
Apache Longbow
Chinook
F16
F35
F22
V22 Vertol
EH101
NH90
Bell 460
C130 Hercules
MD11
Fokker 50
Fokker 100

I would love those aircraft!!!! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Also i would love some airport vehicles you can drive in Smiley
« Last Edit: Jun 3rd, 2011 at 9:56am by Raoul98 »  

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Reply #53 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 6:21pm

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Microsoft should not allow questionable add-ons such as Abacus FD5 & 6 unless the developers got all their bugs out and have the facility to provide good technical support for their products.
 
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Reply #54 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:20pm

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New Light wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 9:40am:
   Hey Spindrift, I was going to suggest the newer Top Cub version when I did a last minute check of the Cubcrafters site  while makig the list (haven't been there in a while) and got a load of the S 2 and the new choice of panels. That plane is friggin' niiice.

   It seems that Garmin and FS have had a good working relationship over the years, at least since FS9 was developed - maybe longer. Just that fact would indicate that the possibilty to include these newer Garmin products should be within the reach of FS's ability to deliver a good sim version and for Garmin products to be more exposed.

   Anyway, Garmin can furthur expose their products on the market along with Diamond aircraft. Diamonds come with analog panels but can also be outfitted with the G1000 glass cockpits. Diamond has a good chance to furthur work it's brand name into the market and take a bigger "cut of the pie" through Garmin's relationship with FS. The DA 20 Katanas (with different engines and horsepowers) seem to be main staple in Diamond's sliver in the GA market. Diamond can use the oppurtunity to showcase their smaller twin engine DA 42 Twin Star and their new D-Jet, which is in a new category of aircraft called Very Light Jets (VLJ) that can be flown by a single pilot. Both have Garmin glass panels.

   Also, FS has had a really good working relationship with Cessna. It seems that Cessna has a golden oppurtunity to showcase their new 162 Skycatcher. Garmin, again, has an equal oppurtunity to showcase their newer G300 which is standard equiment on all Skycatchers (as far as know). I think both companies can exploit the same success with the new Skylane with the G1000 with Synthetic Vision Technology (SVT) and fixed gear (it doesn't seem that there is an RG version on newer Skylanes) but maybe an older version with an analog panel with retractable gear can be placed in the line up.

   Aspen is another company that, as far I know, has no relationship with FS. It's another glass panel small enough to be retrofitted into small aircraft that can be seen at their website @ http://www.aspenavionics.com/index.php/customergallery  They may have a chance to expose their Evolution line of products. They do service some older aircraft. It might be a long shot for them, but it may be worth a try for them.

   Avidyne Entegra can expand it's market in FS, but since Eaglesoft Development Group have done an awesome job with their Cirrus', Columbias, Liberty's, etc., they would probably keep FS at a distance, but who knows...

   Again, as I stated above, there are your basic, old skool, no frills panels/cockpits. They can be made nice looking,  remain fully functional, and still challenge just about any "pilot's" skills.

   A couple of company's relationships with FS are kinda kooky - Piper and DeHavilland. FS has made a nice version of the J 3 Cub, but has totally sh!t on the PA 28 Cherokee. What's up with that? It's nice trainer plane. It's not a high wing aircraft like the Cessna. Even though they are soppose to be direct competion, a low wing trainer ia different animal altogether. Some have tried to make it "flyable" but have fallen way short of acceptable. Why keep a useless pos in the line up? Make it a good, "flyable" aircraft or replace it with a Swift or a Cheetah/Tiger. Same thing with the DeHavilland Dash 8 100; it's a good "stepping stone" from the King Air 350 to the Bombardier Learjet 45. Why not make that a good "flyable" aircraft too? FS has a nice, "flyable" DeHavilland DHC 2 Beaver, neither one of those aircraft pose a threat to any other aircraft in the line up.

Semper Fi,

Dave



It is nice that the Microsoft g1000 can be used in any airplane. I think that in itself speaks tons for microsoft and allowing it to be sent out with FSX. The paywear addon Garmins are nice, but taking any aircraft you want and adding a Garmin PFD just makes it cool(I actually don't care for the MFD section.) I have seen several people say it cant be done. But i have had it now in everything from a ford trimotor(FS2004) all the way to my A380-800. Very simple once you understand what files need to be edited in the aircraft.cfg file. I posted some screenshots in the forums and just uploaded a Gates 23 with a g1000 pfd added. I hope the more it is use the more understand how nice it is to have a PFD that also has a built in gps and many other great features. Hats off to MS on this one. (would have been nice to have known the secrets how to make it work on all airplanes before now, It just took me lots of time)
 
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Reply #55 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 8:58pm

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Bubblehead wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 6:21pm:
Microsoft should not allow questionable add-ons such as Abacus FD5 & 6 unless the developers got all their bugs out and have the facility to provide good technical support for their products.


But... but if they at M$ themselves are the first who don't work their bug out in the first instance before marketing their software (hence the proliferations of patches bombastically called "service packs" that act like a cork applied to the sinking Titanic, that while not always fixing a problem almost always manage to create new and enticing problems to the users), how can they demand the others to do differently? Huh

But, if you really think the way you do, be happy, that if they really decide to follow the evil ways of Apple and blind Flight only to the add-on they approve in a compartmentalization that will make EVERYONE unhappy (beside them, of course), we'll soon have a new phenomenon in our hand: the growth of pirate freeware. Won't that be nice? And, what will be next? Roll Eyes

Maybe a couch made of cactus bark with a properly positioned banana-shaped growth for the user to compulsorily seat upon or the software won't even start, I guess... after all, there is just so many people that LOVE to feel as many layers of pain as possible around. Masochism in its purest form. Tongue

Complaining with people who couldn't care less doesn't work. In a free market (and let's hope Flight will still have one) there is only ONE way to discourage bad payware, or software in general, to proliferate, and that is NOT TO BUY IT. If bad payware software and/or add-ons exist is because some <expletive deleted> buy it. No other reason. If people stop buying products made of crap, these will stop proliferating. Wink
 

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Reply #56 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 10:38pm

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With the new aircraft/pilot licensing structure that has brought with it a wave of home built LSA aircraft and pilots.  It would be nice to see some of those arrive some time soon. Several good aircraft builders about that do justice to smaller aircraft. It would be nice to see a few of those be turned out with better quality than a few i just deleted..  It just seems we have been mauled to death and the aircreations lacks creation, imho.
 
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Reply #57 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 4:33am
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I think in most aspects the FSX aircraft were quiet good. However, I think some changes are needed.

1. Most of the sounds need to be massively improved. Most of them are almost the same as FS9.

2. The A321 fly-by-wire was annoying. In real life FBW is supposed to make flying easier, in FSX it did not (for a taste of what FBW should be like, try fiddling with it in X-Plane). The A321 passenger windows were tiny, and it was MASSIVELY overpowered. If this isn't possible stick with non-FBW aircraft or don't implement it at all.

3. Flight dynamics need to be massively improved (i.e. try flying default 747-400 then try flying PMDG 747 or even ifly 747).

4. Most HUD implementations are not smooth and the direction indicator on them (I don't know what it's called) is inaccurate.

Other than that, the virtual cockpits were beautiful, the external models were usually very decent, and the gauges were very nice.

In my last post, I think I wished for too many aircraft. Rather have quality of aircraft rather than quantity.

Airbus A380
Boeing 737-700/800 <-- port from FSX. Improve sound, external model and FD.
Bombardier Dash-8 Q400
Gulfstream 550 or 650.
Cessna 162
Cessna 400 or an old Mooney
Edge 540 or Extra 300 <-- port from FSX. Improve FD.
DG 808S sailplane <-- port from FSX.
R-22 <-- port from FSX.
F/A-18 <-- port from FSX, improve the sound, HUD and FD
Grumman goose

Use the freed resources to improve the game engine.
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Reply #58 - Aug 2nd, 2011 at 11:34am

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Hrmmmmmmm..... been gone a while, day-dreaming about FLIGHT... and after considering the aircraft revealed to us so far, I have a simple logical prediction I'd like to share, based on the progression of these facts:

1) Boeing Stearman - Low & Slow Biplane with great training qualities, Open Cockpit, Taildragger.

2) Maule Orion M-7 260C - High-Wing-Single STOL Bushplane, Light & Simple, Enclosed Cockpit, Taildragger.

3) Van's RV-6A - Modern Low-Wing-Single, Clean bubble-like Enclosed Cockpit, Fixed Tricycle Gear.

And so, I think it stands to reason, that #4 will be...

4) Beechcraft Baron 58 (Or something quite similar) - Low-Wing-Twin, Retractable Tricycle Gear.


Anyone else like this logic? Smiley
 

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Reply #59 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 1:17pm

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RaptorF22 wrote on Oct 5th, 2010 at 10:29pm:
What A/C should be in MS Flight and what do we want from them?

I for one, would like to see full VCs with all clickable cockpits and cabins.
As for what types of aircraft, they did a pretty good job with FSX and Accel IMO, but maybe a little broader selection of aircraft. I think there should be something for everyone; from hot-air-balloons to F-15s, Cessnas and Mooneys to Boeings and Airbusses, auto-giros to Mil V-12s.

What do you think?? Smiley

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