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Reply #30 - Nov 11th, 2010 at 5:39pm

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DaveSims wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 7:54pm:
drbob777 wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 5:08pm:
kev13479 wrote on Nov 7th, 2010 at 10:06am:
Travis,
by the realism standards, well i only fly the C172 in real life so i cant judge any of the other aircraft, but the C172 in the flight sim didnt have the feel of the real one, like the speed and the effects (e.x: flaps dont have real effect in the sim)  as they would in real life.
they did a good job non the less ill say that, but this time i think im saying they should step it up a knotch you know what i mean?



One reason may be a difference in model. Considering I only fly N/P models and the in game is a S model.


Although the trim effects of the C172 in FSX always feel realllllllly weird


The SP model 172 is much different than an N or P (I have flown both).  One FBO that I used to rent from actually required you to have checkouts in both if you wanted to fly both.  The biggest difference is power, 150-160 hp vs. 180 hp. 

As for the trim effects, that is a flight sim issue all together.  No one is entirely happy with the way FS handles trim.



Our club has 160 and 180HP P models. I've flown the 180HP and yes the difference is huge. It sure gets up to pattern altitude in a hurry  Smiley
 
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Reply #31 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:51pm

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This subject sounded like a job for an Idealist, which I proudly profess to be. By it's very title, FLIGHT should cover a very wide range of experiences, however I wouldn't be surprised if it was NOT released with very many default AC as MS plans to release more in time. It wouldn't shock me if it was like 5-10.

That being said, here are the aircraft FLIGHT experiences I hope they will (at least, in time) cover:

Hot Air Balloons / Blimps
Sailplanes / Hang Gliders
Ultralights
Most-popular and Prolific GA (Cessnas, Pipers, Beechcraft... etc)
Bushplanes / STOL / Amphibians
Turbo-props
Business Jets
Airliners
Fighter Jets
Helicoptors / VTOL
Spacecraft
Aerobatic Aircraft
Vintage / Classic / Historical Aircaft (DC-3 & Connie, WW2 Fighters... etc)

SO, if default was only say, FIVE... here's my votes!

Boeing Stearman ( check  Cool )
Beech V35B Bonanza (V-tail)
DeHavilland DHC-2 Beaver (wheels/skis/floats/amphibian/turbo)
Boeing 787 Dreamliner
Bell 206 JetRanger

These would keep me happy for my first few weeks of FLIGHT. I can't wait!  Grin

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Reply #32 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 10:23pm

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Spindrift wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:51pm:
That being said, here are the aircraft FLIGHT experiences I hope they will (at least, in time) cover:

Hot Air Balloons / Blimps
Sailplanes / Hang Gliders
Ultralights
Most-popular and Prolific GA (Cessnas, Pipers, Beechcraft... etc)
Bushplanes / STOL / Amphibians
Turbo-props
Business Jets
Airliners
Fighter Jets
Helicoptors / VTOL
Spacecraft
Aerobatic Aircraft
Vintage / Classic / Historical Aircaft (DC-3 & Connie, WW2 Fighters... etc)


I can guarantee you that they would never put a spacecraft in Microsoft Flight.  Grin Would be great if they did!  Cheesy
 
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Reply #33 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 11:10pm

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I wouldn't be overly surprised if the had a Space Shuttle.  But I doubt we see any Sci Fi spacecraft, unless the M$ Add-On Approval Gods allow them as third party add-ons.
 
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Reply #34 - Dec 22nd, 2010 at 9:31am

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Hmm soo many too choose

B727-100
B737-200 or -300 and -700 winglets
B767-200ER nd -300ER
DHC2 wheels
Cessna 172 and 182
B777 with GE90
B747-100 and -400
F-18 A or C
F-14A no B or D
Learjet 25
F5E
Some plane with a Westinghouse j-34
AC-130!!!
AC-47
C-47
DC-3
DC-10
SR-71
A330-200
That's all folks Smiley
 
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Reply #35 - Dec 27th, 2010 at 6:36am

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I would like to see the dhc-5?
 
Carriers would be so mush easier to land on if they would just stop turning!!!
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Reply #36 - Dec 27th, 2010 at 10:31am
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I figure we need a wide-range of aircraft to suit almost anyone. Not too many, as we need quality rather than quantity.

Airbus A380 <-- must have, good marketing point, worlds biggest airliner
Boeing 787-8 <-- must have, good marketing point, boeings newest all-new aircraft
Boeing 737-700/800 <-- 737 is worlds best selling modern airliner. everyone has been on one
Boeing C-17 or Airbus A400M or C-130J <-- military aircraft for exciting airlift missions
Bombardier Dash-8 Q400 <-- kill the CRJ-700 and King Air with one stone with state-of-the-art turboprop
Bombardier Learjet 85 or newer Cessna Citation <-- a change from the Learjet 45, business jet
DHC-2 Beaver float-plane with wheels <-- vintage, radial, float-plane
Cessna 172 <-- good learning aircraft that everyone has been on
Cessna 400 or an old mooney<-- good high performance aircraft.
Edge 540 <-- one of worlds best aerobatic aircraft
DG 808S sailplane <-- one of worlds best sailplanes
R-66,e <-- prominent helo... kill R-22 and bell with one stone
DC-3 <-- it's a DC-3... nuff said
Boeing Stearman <-- biplane
a VLJ (Very Light Jet)
port / update FSX F/A-18 into it <-- it has a nice 3d model / VC + need a military aircraft
port / update FSX Grumman goose <-- it has a nice 3d model / VC + it's vintage radial float-plane

kill the ultralight, not many people flew it.
 
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Reply #37 - Dec 27th, 2010 at 6:50pm

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kill the ultralight, not many people flew it.



... I flew it....  Grin

Ah, well. no matter, everything else you suggested is GRAND! 'specialy the DC3!

Keep' em coming folks!  Smiley
 
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Reply #38 - Dec 28th, 2010 at 12:57pm

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I'd like to see in addition to what FSX includes:

--Civil--

Boeing 737-900ER
Boeing 787-8
Boeing 777-200ER
Boeing 747-8 and 747-8F
Bombardier Dash Q400
Gulfstream G550
Cirrus SR22
Cessna 400
Eurocopter AS350

--Military--

Boeing C-17
Lockheed C-130 Super Hercules
F-16D Fighting Falcon
F-18E Super Hornet
F-22A Raptor

 
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Reply #39 - Dec 29th, 2010 at 9:04pm

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How 'bout one a these... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1-Fo7uQlrY&feature=related

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Reply #40 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 6:40am

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my vote is:

keep the fleet from FSX - add a tilt-rotor

having a proper tilt-rotor would require the addition of thrust vectoring - which is a must-have by now... Wink

and add some form of generic FMC for heavy jets and alike... it doesn't make much sense to use a G/A GPS in the cockpit of a 737  Huh Roll Eyes


...and fix the starboard aileron in the Maule VC - it's inverted in FSX Grin



 
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Reply #41 - Jan 15th, 2011 at 3:58am

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Spindrift wrote on Dec 27th, 2010 at 6:50pm:
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kill the ultralight, not many people flew it.



... I flew it....  Grin

Ah, well. no matter, everything else you suggested is GRAND! 'specialy the DC3!

Keep' em coming folks!  Smiley

the ultralight was for the dummys and those first missions , they will propably include it in flight too if they want to reach a bigger public and turn them into real simmers
 
just a pair of long wings and some rising air.
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Reply #42 - Jan 15th, 2011 at 2:21pm

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I fly the ultralight from time to time even though I'm a great virtual pilot that can fly just about anything in the sim.  Cheesy The ultralight lets you sit back and enjoy the scenery and not make you focus on actually flying it.
 
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Reply #43 - Jan 15th, 2011 at 6:53pm

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littlebenny wrote on Jan 15th, 2011 at 3:58am:
Spindrift wrote on Dec 27th, 2010 at 6:50pm:
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kill the ultralight, not many people flew it.



... I flew it....  Grin

Ah, well. no matter, everything else you suggested is GRAND! 'specialy the DC3!

Keep' em coming folks!  Smiley

the ultralight was for the dummys and those first missions , they will propably include it in flight too if they want to reach a bigger public and turn them into real simmers


Um... thanks for the compliment there Lil' Benny! I've been called worse... Wink

BrandonF wrote on Jan 15th, 2011 at 2:21pm:
I fly the ultralight from time to time even though I'm a great virtual pilot that can fly just about anything in the sim.  Cheesy The ultralight lets you sit back and enjoy the scenery and not make you focus on actually flying it.


And that's why you're awesome Brandon! Grin

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Reply #44 - Jan 15th, 2011 at 7:29pm

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B747-8
A380-800
A350-900
B787-8
B737-700
A330-200
etc.

And how about Microsoft gets off there lazy buts and try to get some copyrights lifted so they can give us some real airlines.
 
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