Simviation Forum - Boeing outwits airbus once again!!!

Sep 24^th, 2010 at 11:41pm

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Boeings thoughts on the airbus transparency issue!!!

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/invisible-plane-just-give-me-speed-says...

Carriers would be so mush easier to land on if they would just stop turning!!!

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Reply #1 - Sep 25^th, 2010 at 1:09am

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Good for Boeing!!! Airbus deserves to be outwitted with that crazy transparent airplane idea. Cheesy

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Reply #2 - Sep 25^th, 2010 at 5:12am

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I would hardly call it "outwitting" them
I dont like airbus, some people who've been here a while know why, but the simple fact is, Airbus were brainstorming ideas for 50 years in the future or what we might see. Heck recently Boeing were touting the fact you could see the stars on the ceiling of the 787 with its LED lights and such at night, which has a calming effect apparently, Airbus just went and said one day they would be able to give the real thing.
as usual with the A Vs B war its a p*ssing contest.. Wink

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Reply #3 - Sep 25^th, 2010 at 6:57am

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Craig. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2010 at 5:12am:

Boeing were touting the fact you could see the stars on the ceiling of the 787 with its LED lights and such at night, which has a calming effect apparently, Wink

It is already an option on 737-800. Looks nice, but another piece of entertainment cr#p I will have to learn about so I can fix it Roll Eyes

I have to laugh about all this Boeing/Airbus love hate stuff. I am probably the only one here who actually has an idea Grin

If you where able as a man in the street buy an Airbus or Boeing (in the same way you buy a car), to buy the a Boeing you would go to Aldi or such. To buy the Airbus, it would be a trip to Tesco or Sainsbury. The company I work for has taken delivery of around 10 brand new 737-800's this year. Quality control seems to be a swear word at Boeing at the moment Huh

At least when you get a spare from Airbus, you know it will fit in the same place the old part came out off Undecided

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PS Just to be clear, I am an inspector on 737NG and would take the Boeing over the Bus every time Cool

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Reply #4 - Sep 25^th, 2010 at 2:32pm

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I don't really see how anyone's outwitted anyone else. he thing that I find most interesting about that article is this quote:

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The technology is there, we could build it (a supersonic aeroplane), but we couldn't sell it.

This is really too bad because it would be such an advancement.

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Reply #5 - Sep 25^th, 2010 at 3:20pm

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B-Valvs wrote on Sep 25^th, 2010 at 2:32pm:

I don't really see how anyone's outwitted anyone else. he thing that I find most interesting about that article is this quote:

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The technology is there, we could build it (a supersonic aeroplane), but we couldn't sell it.

This is really too bad because it would be such an advancement.

Cool

The technology has been around (Concorde?). Part of the problem is the restriction of sonic booms over land, so you can only get maximum speed at sea. The other part is sheer cost. Sure you could charge more for tickets (seats on the concorde were far from cheap), but then the market looking for expensive high speed overwater transit is pretty small.

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Reply #6 - Sep 26^th, 2010 at 12:18am

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DaveSims wrote on Sep 25^th, 2010 at 3:20pm:

B-Valvs wrote on Sep 25^th, 2010 at 2:32pm:

I don't really see how anyone's outwitted anyone else. he thing that I find most interesting about that article is this quote:

Quote:

The technology is there, we could build it (a supersonic aeroplane), but we couldn't sell it.

This is really too bad because it would be such an advancement.

Cool

The technology has been around (Concorde?). Part of the problem is the restriction of sonic booms over land, so you can only get maximum speed at sea. The other part is sheer cost. Sure you could charge more for tickets (seats on the concorde were far from cheap), but then the market looking for expensive high speed overwater transit is pretty small.

I remember my grandpa was in London coming home from his deployment to some base in Germany and one of the British Airways concordes was sitting at the gate next to him, he asked how much a ticket would cost and I believe the answer was around $1000

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Reply #7 - Sep 26^th, 2010 at 4:59am

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That would actually be quite a cheap rate for concorde lol.

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Reply #8 - Sep 26^th, 2010 at 9:20am

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I remember people said that the ticket price was about the same as a regular first class ticket. So a one way ticket would be about $9000 nowadays?

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Reply #9 - Sep 26^th, 2010 at 10:17am

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ApplePie wrote on Sep 26^th, 2010 at 9:20am:

I remember people said that the ticket price was about the same as a regular first class ticket. So a one way ticket would be about $9000 nowadays?

Depends on when you're talking about. According to this article a return ticket from New York to London cost $9,000. It was written in October 2001. Concorde Tickets Back On Sale

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Reply #10 - Sep 26^th, 2010 at 10:40am

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What about a hypersonic airliner that is also invisible?

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Reply #11 - Sep 27^th, 2010 at 3:04pm

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What about a hypersonic airliner that is also invisible?

Blackbird Air Grin

Get cryo facilities, and then you wouldn't have to endure any annoying customers, you wouldn't complain about leg room, you wouldn't get bored of TV. You'd go from London to New York in a matter of minutes and you could fit many times the number of people on a standard flight.

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Reply #12 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 11:48am

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I don't get it, Boeing said they could build this Supersonic plane back in the 60's but never did. Not that technology is far better then it was in the 60, and 4 planes to model them after: Concord, B-1A, XB-70 and SR-71, you would have thought they would have put there money where their mouth was a long time ago.

-XB-70-rides its own sonic boom for more speed and less fuel burn
-SR-71-Burns less fuel at mach 3 and higher according Pratt & Whitney then it does at lower speeds
-B-1A- Swing wing to have lower landing speeds, but able to cruise at mach 2
-Concord-only practical supersonic passenger jet

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