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Sep 5th, 2010 at 9:12am

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Hello Chums...

I am recently experiencing "lock-ups" on my Computer, where everything freezes, including the screen, and the Mouse and Keyboard, etc, no longer respond, (sometimes with the usual continuous Audio Loop).
This is particularly annoying when I am in the middle of a Multiplayer flight.
It results in me having to "warm-reset" the Computer again, to resume the various programs.
Recently, as a trial, I noticed that if I ignore the lock-up, leave everything alone, and go for a sit-down and snooze for 10 minutes or so, the program will automatically resume from where it left off!
Due to the fact that I have my computer  running, and using it for 18 hours every day, I am starting to wonder if it can be a "Memory" problem, where the memory gets "full-up" with data due to constant use, gets confused, and has to re-organise itself by re-arranging the data, resulting in a lag in executing the running program!

My OS is Windows XP Pro SP2, with 2 GB of Memory sticks (2 X 1GB in Dual Mode), and 256 MB on my n-Vidia 7800 GS AGP Graphics Card.
(I've just added another 256 MB  Memory stick making 2.3 GB in total).

HDD = 127GB, (256GB Partitioned) with 70 GB free.

I have a funny feeling that Win XP has problems with relieving itself of excessive, unused memory Data during program execution, and it accumulates over time, resulting in confusion!
It may be advisable to switch the computer off completely at intervals, and before running a new program, letting the Computer clear itself, ....and then executing a "Cold Start"?

There are no Virus's, Trojans, Malware, or programs running in the background at the time.

...any suggestions?

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Reply #1 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 10:21am

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Pablo a similar problem almost makes me crazy (well Much more  Roll Eyes )  Ask a friend to lend you a Power Supply Unit (PSU) borrowed and put and test your PC again.
I did everything including change motherboard,change Fan Cooler, Format hard drive, and those where the times I told Brett Henderson that I need a good quality new RAM memory devices and that's when he send me from Chicago via Fedex   those two Corsair ddr2 (2Gb) units  I did everything and more ,
I began by freezing exactly as your description in FSX game then slowly by the time it did with any program running.
Diodes and transistors began to have deficiency in the PSU ..
check the fan of the Power supply too see if there is a good air flow

try this first ,before wasting money like I did ..
 

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Reply #2 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 10:35am

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Mine would do that from time to time as well. I'd always chocked it up to too much heat. (Ambient temps in my computer room often reach 95 F+ in the summer months) Heatsinks and coolers dusty?
 

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Reply #3 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 10:40am

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All the Temps are OK, and the Voltages, after various checks, Alex...
(Aida32 program*).
All the fans are running at full speed (regularly oiled!).....and my PSU is a good "Storm" 700 Watt PSU, with large fans..(all seem to be running OK).

The funny thing is, the computer never shuts down, or gets the dreaded BSOD...it just ...freezes, like its just spotted a Rattlesnake!... Shocked...!
You can always tell, because the Num-Lock light will not toggle on and off!

I'll keep an eye on the PSU like you suggested, tho'... Wink...!

Take care... Wink...!

Paul....frozen in time... Cool...!

Ground....did you finally find a permanent cure for the freezing problem?... Roll Eyes...!

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Reply #4 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:09am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 10:40am:
Ground....did you finally find a permanent cure for the freezing problem?... Roll Eyes...!

* http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/AIDA.shtml


wow,looks pretty much like Everest ,but free  Cheesy
now I can walk with this around in a pen drive for work
thanks Paul
 

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Reply #5 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:46am

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alrot wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:09am:
Fozzer wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 10:40am:
Ground....did you finally find a permanent cure for the freezing problem?... Roll Eyes...!

* http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/AIDA.shtml


wow,looks pretty much like Everest ,but free  Cheesy
now I can walk with this around in a pen drive for work
thanks Paul

Its an excellent little Program for examining the inner works of the Computer...I have been using it regularly for years!

Just had the freeze problem again whilst listening to music on U-Tube. The screen froze with the last note repeating like a machine-gun...
I left everything alone for exactly 10 minutes. There came a single Beep on the computer and the program carried on from where it left off....
..the trouble was, I could no longer connect to the Internet via my Modem to get my Browser up and running again without completely re-setting the computer, (and therefore the Modem and Browser)!
(The Computer has to be reset, to boot everything up again, from scratch!).
It gets more annoying by the minute...(or 10 minutes!)...!

Paul... Cry...!
 

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Reply #6 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:08pm

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It could caused by registry errors also. Or too many unneeded items in the registry.
 

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Reply #7 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:19pm

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:46am:
[quote author=alrot link=1283692374/4#4 date=1283699350][quote author=Fozzer link=1283692374/3#3 date=1283697621]
Just had the freeze problem again whilst listening to music on U-Tube. The screen froze with the last note repeating like a machine-gun...
I left everything alone for exactly 10 minutes.
There came a single Beep
on the computer and the program carried on from where it left off....
..the trouble was, I could no longer connect to the Internet via my Modem to get my Browser up and running again without completely re-setting the computer, (and therefore the Modem and Browser)!
(The Computer has to be reset, to boot everything up again, from scratch!).
It gets more annoying by the minute...(or 10 minutes!)...!

Paul... Cry...!


RAM , Could be ram problem, I work fixing computers and I found many memory that began to gives trouble like this,(specially DDR400 DDR333)
if you have two devices ,Unplug and switch memory from one side to the other just to see if its a fail contact issue due to dust Or you have two devices disconect one then test it, if it does Plug it back and disconect the other only One can cause the machine freezes or crash .
Tell me something Paul,have you seen right before its shut down a blue screen warning?
 

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Reply #8 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:40pm

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Steve M wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:08pm:
It could caused by registry errors also. Or too many unneeded items in the registry.


I've got a few Registry programs which I use regularly, including pay-ware "Registry Mechanic", which never fails to detect and correct various problems during every run!

I'm a bit reluctant to format my HDD, losing everything, and reinstall my Windows XP, when the problem may lie elsewhere...(Hardware)!

Paul...Frozen.... Ice Cold in Alice.. Roll Eyes....!

P.S...On shut-down, I just get the usual "Windows is saving your Settings"...no other warnings...

DOS Boot-up, normal...Memory check is OK..
Start up, and shut down Windows, is normal, Alex!
I never get the BSOD... Smiley...!
I'm still a little suspicious about my "Memory Sticks" tho'..I'll try swapping them around/removing them, just in case!...!
 

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Reply #9 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:47pm

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 10:40am:
All the Temps are OK, and the Voltages, after various checks, Alex...
(Aida32 program*).
All the fans are running at full speed (regularly oiled!).....and my PSU is a good "Storm" 700 Watt PSU, with large fans..(all seem to be running OK).

The funny thing is, the computer never shuts down, or gets the dreaded BSOD...it just ...freezes, like its just spotted a Rattlesnake!... Shocked...!
You can always tell, because the Num-Lock light will not toggle on and off!

I'll keep an eye on the PSU like you suggested, tho'... Wink...!

Take care... Wink...!

Paul....frozen in time... Cool...!

Ground....did you finally find a permanent cure for the freezing problem?... Roll Eyes...!

* http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/AIDA.shtml

Nope. Never found a cause or a cure. It would only happen once in a blue moon, but just as you described. Everything would just stop, and if there was a sound of some sort playing, it would get stuck in a rapid loop, like a scratched CD.


Alrot may be onto something there too. Let your machine run a few loops of Memtest. It's free, won't hurt anything, and will eliminate the possibility of faulty memory from the diagnostic equation.
 

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Reply #10 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 1:38pm

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Groundbound1 wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:47pm:
Alrot may be onto something there too. Let your machine run a few loops of Memtest. It's free, won't hurt anything, and will eliminate the possibility of faulty memory from the diagnostic equation.


I think that's well worth a try, Ground and Alex..

I still suspect that it may be a Memory problem...(getting faulty/confused).
It takes a time to run its complete check, apparently, so I will run it when I have nothing else to do at the time tonight...Wink...!

Paul.... Smiley...!
 

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Reply #11 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 3:42pm

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Paul, do you have CCleaner? Before I got the new box, I got in the habit of running it each and every time I got on the net. And I still run it often. It helps when you clean out the cache. And it's freeware, the donation is optional.

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download
 

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Reply #12 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 4:29pm

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patchz wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 3:42pm:
Paul, do you have CCleaner? Before I got the new box, I got in the habit of running it each and every time I got on the net. And I still run it often. It helps when you clean out the cache. And it's freeware, the donation is optional.

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download


Yep....

It gave me 3 free Trojans in the download... Angry...

I removed them with AVG and un-installed "C Cleaner", pronto!... Wink... Wink...!

I use "Easy Cleaner" now for all the various options.... Kiss...!

..and "Registry Mechanic" (Pay-ware) for my Registry.. Smiley...!

Going to run the Memory Checker during tonight ....whilst I cuddle my Teddy Bear... Smiley...!

Paul.... Wink...!

"Cold starting" my computer regularly, before starting each new program eases the problem at the mo'!
.... Wink...!
 

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Reply #13 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 2:47am
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Strange... AVG doesn't detect ccleaner as a trojan on my system...........
 
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Yep....

It gave me 3 free Trojans in the download... Angry...

I removed them with AVG and un-installed "C Cleaner", pronto!... Wink... Wink...

Where did you download it from? I've used CCleaner for a long time. I never had a problem with trojans. http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download
 

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Reply #15 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 3:34am

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Hagar wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 3:15am:
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Yep....

It gave me 3 free Trojans in the download... Angry...

I removed them with AVG and un-installed "C Cleaner", pronto!... Wink... Wink...

Where did you download it from? I've used CCleaner for a long time. I never had a problem with trojans. http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download


..goodness knows?... Roll Eyes...!

I do the usual Google search for C Cleaner, pick one and download and install it, and run it...

After a while I detected that the computer seemed to be slowing down generally....did an AVG check..as I do, regularly. It came back with the report of 3 Trojans associated with the C Cleaner File, and quarantined them.

Rather than take any more risks by running C Cleaner, I uninstalled it, and use Easy Clean and Registry Mechanic instead..(Does a similar job).

Paul.

BTW: Did an overnight Memory check, all OK, but I'm still getting the "freezing", at intervals, a bit annoying!... Huh...!
 

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Reply #16 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 3:47am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 3:34am:
Hagar wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 3:15am:
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Yep....

It gave me 3 free Trojans in the download... Angry...

I removed them with AVG and un-installed "C Cleaner", pronto!... Wink... Wink...

Where did you download it from? I've used CCleaner for a long time. I never had a problem with trojans. http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download


..goodness knows?... Roll Eyes...!

I do the usual Google search for C Cleaner, pick one and download and install it, and run it...

After a while I detected that the computer seemed to be slowing down generally....did an AVG check..as I do, regularly. It came back with the report of 3 Trojans associated with the C Cleaner File, and quarantined them.

Rather than take any more risks by running C Cleaner, I uninstalled it, and use Easy Clean and Registry Mechanic instead..(Does a similar job).

Paul.

The trojans were most likely from a different source & nothing to do with CCleaner. These things have a nasty habit of attaching themselves to EXE files. At least you found them before they did any harm. I always try to download utilities from the developers' own website.

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BTW: Did an overnight Memory check, all OK, but I'm still getting the "freezing", at intervals, a bit annoying!

I had a similar problem when I first got this PC. Took it back to the shop several times & they replaced almost everything with no luck. It was indeed most frustrating. These intermittent problems are always the most difficult to trace. In the end I fixed it myself. I forget what did the trick now but it might well have been CCleaner.

I recently discovered that AVG was using a lot of resources & slowing everything down. Sometimes the PC would lock up for no apparent reason. After reading several recommendations on this forum I decided to uninstall it & try Avira. This seems to have fixed the problem so far. Get the AntiVir Free Version. http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antiv...
 

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Reply #17 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:22am

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At the mo' I've got both AVG and Avira in my Tool Bar.
I generally use Avira for a regular quick check, and AVG for the full scan.
I'll try disabling AVG for a while and see what 'appens... Wink...
...(I will probably get another 3 Trojans, then!).... Shocked... Wink...LOL..!

Paul... Cool...!

I'll have another go with C Cleaner, from the original source.
 

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Reply #18 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:28am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:22am:
At the mo' I've got both AVG and Avira in my Tool Bar.
I generally use Avira for a regular quick check, and AVG for the full scan.
I'll try disabling AVG for a while and see what 'appens... Wink...
...(I will probably get another 3 Trojans, then!).... Shocked... Wink...LOL..!

Paul... Cool...!

If you're running both at the same time I suspect that might be causing a conflict. Please try one or the other. Avira seems to be using far less resources than AVG on my system.

 

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Reply #19 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:57am

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If you've had the auto updater for AVG turned on,
the latest versions have become seriously resource heavy,
with almost a dozen process running.
AVG is no longer the cool streamlined must have app that it once was.

I had similar hangups, and switched to MSSE,
which only has 2-3 process running max,
and have not had the issue since.
Before the switch, I had 41 process running,
now I have 29.
It makes a big difference.

You may or may not meet with equally fantastic results as I have,
but I thought I would mention that,
as I did some rather extensive searching & reading on the AV subject to cure my problem with it.

You'd be much better off with just running Avira.

Also, having multiple AV programs running at once,
will lock your system up if they both happen to scan the same file at once. 

If you insist on having them both running,
turn the real time protection feature off on one of them.  Wink

It also makes a good deal of sense to turn them all off while flying,
as most AV programs are scanning running programs & files on your system,
even when you're not online.

Upgrading to SP3 would probably also be a good idea,
it's been quite a few years since it's release,
and they appear to have worked out all the bugs for it.

Good luck, making the leap is the hardest part.  Wink
 
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Reply #20 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:57am

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You could be right there, Doug... Wink...!

Although I have automatic downloads, etc turned off, It could be that the Virus scanners jump into action every now and again for a quick check, and freeze my Computer (no Mouse or Keyboard).
Sometimes, if I leave everything alone for 10 minutes or so, the program sometimes carries on from where it left off, as though something in the background had interrupted it for a while!
Peculiar and peculiar-ar.... Wink...!

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Reply #21 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 5:10am

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Thanks for the confirmation Shane. I forgot about that latest AVG update which appears to be the cause of a lot of these problems. Shame they had to go & spoil a handy little application.

Fozzer wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:57am:
You could be right there, Doug... Wink...!

I'm certain of it Paul. Please disable AVG & tell me if that fixed your problem.
 

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Reply #22 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 8:04am

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Hagar wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 5:10am:
Thanks for the confirmation Shane. I forgot about that latest AVG update which appears to be the cause of a lot of these problems. Shame they had to go & spoil a handy little application.

Fozzer wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:57am:
You could be right there, Doug... Wink...!

I'm certain of it Paul. Please disable AVG & tell me if that fixed your problem.


Uninstalled AVG.
Left Avira in place....and "Spybot" and "Malwarebytes"...for checking for dodgy "stuff"....

..see what 'appuns over the next few hours... Wink...!

News, later... Wink...!

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Reply #23 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 1:47pm

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I agree that AVG sucks ,I agree that 2 anti virus is lethal for the system ,But IMHO that freezing problem smells a lot more like a hardware issue
 

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Reply #24 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 1:55pm

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 8:04am:
Hagar wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 5:10am:
Thanks for the confirmation Shane. I forgot about that latest AVG update which appears to be the cause of a lot of these problems. Shame they had to go & spoil a handy little application.

Fozzer wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:57am:
You could be right there, Doug... Wink...!

I'm certain of it Paul. Please disable AVG & tell me if that fixed your problem.


Uninstalled AVG.
Left Avira in place....and "Spybot" and "Malwarebytes"...for checking for dodgy "stuff"....

..see what 'appuns over the next few hours... Wink...!

News, later... Wink...!

Paul.

OOoooo, never have more than one antivirus program with realtime protection/scanning running at a time. Bad things can happen.
 

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Reply #25 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 3:12pm

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Well....

I thought, maybe I've cured the problem by getting rid of AVG...
Fired up my FS 2004, Filed an ILS flight plan from Byron to Monterrey Peninsular...
Part way, the sound decided to perform its usual antics!
The dreaded, continuous Audio Loop necessitating a computer reset, (and loss of the flight)... Angry...!
Swapped the sound card for another one, still having occasional sound faults; eg U-Tube music, etc!
Like Alex said, it has to be a Hardware fault...somewhere!
Memory OK.
(Processor running cool, all fans working).
Its bleedin' annoying, 'cos I never know when the fault is going to show up!...Computer freeze/stuttering Audio.... Sad...!
Hmmmmm..... Angry....!

Work in progress...

Paul....must keep smiling!... Roll Eyes...!
 

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Reply #26 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 3:28pm

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Pablo, for experience I have learn that the only way to test a RAM memory its by pluging another one OR if you have two devices Unplug one and if it fails put it back and unplug the other ,I don't know what memory you have ,but this is a common issue in ddr400 and ddr333

Also No matter what PSU you have its all about electronic components and they all fails sometimes  ,I have seen telmakes ,Nvidias ,corsairs whatever they fail ,just test by having another PSU a BORROWED ONE ,I do this before spending money on it
 

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Reply #27 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 3:47pm

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alrot wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 3:28pm:
Pablo, for experience I have learn that the only way to test a RAM memory its by pluging another one OR if you have two devices Unplug one and if it fails put it back and unplug the other ,I don't know what memory you have ,but this is a common issue in ddr400 and ddr333

Also No matter what PSU you have its all about electronic components and they all fails sometimes  ,I have seen telmakes ,Nvidias ,corsairs whatever they fail ,just test by having another PSU a BORROWED ONE ,I do this before spending money on it 


Will fiddle with the Memory, Alex...
I have 2X 1GB in Dual connection, plus an additional 256KB, making 2.3 GB in total.
I'll try them individually.

Another strange occurrence, is my simple Zoom ADSL wired, USB modem, (NO Router!) regularly disconnects itself from the Phone line.
I have to unplug the USB plug from the Modem, re-insert it, wait for the Modem to re-boot, then redial the Broadband connection number again!
This is a disaster whilst in the middle of an on-line Multiplayer flight!

Motherboard problems?

Paul...If it aint one thing...its sumfin' else!... Cry... Wink... Grin...!
 

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Reply #28 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:02pm

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Motherboard problems?


I can assure you and bet That's not a motherboard problems Paul...we were talking about freezing while a game was running ..correct? if you have a deficiency in that PSU the first to notice will be the CPU (Frozen)  and the Video card ,also other hardware devices could be affected like the LAN area (sorry I did not understand if you have Dial Up or broadband )
also tell me do you have ddr3 ddr2 or ddr (400/333)???
 

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Reply #29 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:26pm

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alrot wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:02pm:
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Motherboard problems?


I can assure you and bet That's not a motherboard problems Paul...we were talking about freezing while a game was running ..correct? if you have a deficiency in that PSU the first to notice will be the CPU (Frozen)  and the Video card ,also other hardware devices could be affected like the LAN area (sorry I did not understand if you have Dial Up or broadband )
also tell me do you have ddr3 ddr2 or ddr (400/333)???


Hello Alex....
DDR 400MHz DIMM 184 Pins PC3200 (Two off).

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-7N400 S_L (AGP).

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Gigabyte_GA_7N400S_L__6108276

Processor: Socket A AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred 2600 (2.1 GB)

Video card: nVidia (AGP) 7800 GS 256 MB.

PSU: Storm 700 Watt...(cost £100, 2 years ago!).

Paul.....frozen in time... Wink...!

P.S. 8MB Broadband connection (requires dialing-up to make the Phone line connection via the Modem).
 

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Reply #30 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 5:22pm

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I wish you would have 3d mark software its to test the strength of the cpu and GPU a

well let's proceed, Does it still freezing while you are running FSX? for exampe ,I mean right Now? 
let's forget about the Internet connection for a while ( hoping at least allow you to post of course) and focus on the frozzen issue
 

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Reply #31 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 6:05pm

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alrot wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 5:22pm:
I wish you would have 3d mark software its to test the strength of the cpu and GPU a

well let's proceed, Does it still freezing while you are running FSX? for exampe ,I mean right Now? 
let's forget about the Internet connection for a while ( hoping at least allow you to post of course) and focus on the frozzen issue   


I never use my FSX....

Only FS2004.

It freezes in FS 2004. and U-Tube.

Anything displaying on the screen (and with sound) will occasionally freeze.

Mad Onion, 3D mark 2001 SE, runs fine. Excellent results.

Paul.

P.S....I'll try CFS 2 tomorrow. See if I have the same problems....
 

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