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Sep 3rd, 2010 at 8:35am

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Goodly morning all... Smiley

Sometimes we all use terms or jargon thinking that everyone knows what we are talking about.� That is not always the case.

For example the term "Swamping".

Been using that word since the 50's myself and then I saw it in one of our Canadian members post.
Our member "Crossfire" who fly's the King Air in Western Canada also used that word "Swamping" when talking about Float Flying.

Well I got thinking about that word and it's origin so being the clever old rudder stomper I am I Googled it.

Nothing... Tongue

I looked in several Aviation Glossary sections and nothing... Tongue

Then I came upon this site thinking I might get a lead.

http://www.kenmoreair.com/sub_content.php?content_type=25

You need to read the article of where Kenmore Air started...near a swamp... Roll Eyes

Now I am sure that word "Swamping" has been around long before that but not sure.

When aviators fly off floats the aircraft floats are pumped at the start of every day.� It is a good idea to pump them out at the end of the day as well.
Each float will have several compartments with a plug where the pump is inserted and the float pumped.

You would be surprised how much water you do get.� �Smiley

Remember several year back now I think when I talked about the RED, White and Blue Rubber Balls and cutting them in half, inserting them where the plug went on top of the floats because they were cheaper than replacing the plugs you just kicked over the side of the float..... Grin

Now this action of pumping the floats plus working as a dock hand, loader etc is what I often referred to as "Swamping".

Bush Pilot's all have their own jargon (A characteristic language of a particular group) which can be quite colourful at times.... Grin

Please feel free to add to this post and comments most welcome.� �Wink

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

 

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Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2010 at 2:44pm

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Very cool Doug. Smiley
I had no idea Kenmore Air was that large.
 

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Reply #2 - Sep 3rd, 2010 at 7:24pm

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Hi Larry... Smiley

I guess they are one of the largest on the West Coast.

I had a couple of friends I used to fly with that flew for them during their off time after I retired.

They did all right for themselves money wise.

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Reply #3 - Sep 3rd, 2010 at 7:40pm

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Yea, pumping out the floats before and after every flight is the MOST annoying part of float plane flying.

But, hey, it's a fair trade-off. Wink
 

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Reply #4 - Sep 3rd, 2010 at 11:59pm

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specter177 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2010 at 7:40pm:
Yea, pumping out the floats before and after every flight is the MOST annoying part of float plane flying.

But, hey, it's a fair trade-off. Wink

I thought the most annoying part was unintentionally kicking the plug in the water. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #5 - Sep 4th, 2010 at 6:21am

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Good morning all... Smiley

Good one Larry.... Grin

The first summer I started float flying grandad's aircraft on straight floats my meager allowance and what money I could earn as a student still in school was spent replacing those dam floatless aluminum plugs.     Grin

That is when we bought a case of those Red, White and Blue Soft Rubber Ball's.

Cut a ball in half and it does the same job as one of those expensive aluminum plugs AND they float...... Grin

I still have one in my flight bag and when someone asks me what it is for....exercise...they ask...no I reply...it is the Dory Plug to stop the aircraft from sinking I tell them.... Grin

Cheers...Happy Landings....Doug
 

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Reply #6 - Sep 4th, 2010 at 12:28pm

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Flying Trucker wrote on Sep 4th, 2010 at 6:21am:
Good morning all... Smiley

Good one Larry.... Grin

The first summer I started float flying grandad's aircraft on straight floats my meager allowance and what money I could earn as a student still in school was spent replacing those dam floatless aluminum plugs.� �� Grin

That is when we bought a case of those Red, White and Blue Soft Rubber Ball's.

Cut a ball in half and it does the same job as one of those expensive aluminum plugs AND they float...... Grin

I still have one in my flight bag and when someone asks me what it is for....exercise...they ask...no I reply...it is the Dory Plug to stop the aircraft from sinking I tell them.... Grin

Cheers...Happy Landings....Doug

I would love to go back in time and go to the Pacific Northwest as a rubber ball salesman. Roll Eyes
I just can't figure out how to bring the money back with me.� Grin
 

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Reply #7 - Sep 4th, 2010 at 9:27pm

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Interesting topic, I had no idea what swamping was. Smiley

On the subject of jargon, most all professions have some kind of jargon or lingo. I still work part time for a soda company and we merchandisers (people who put things on shelves) have some strange jargon of our own. For example, if I told you that I just "threw" twenty cases of 7up, you might assume that I hurled them through the air some distance. In fact that means that I placed them on the shelf where they belong. Or if a shelf is "blown" you might picture the aftermath of a bomb. Really, a shelf is "blown" when it is empty or nearly empty.

I can't think of any for the other job. Aircraft terminology is normal to me. I mean really, who hasn't heard of a strut pump or a high tension retard vibrator breaker.  Tongue
 

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Reply #8 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:00am

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TacitBlue wrote on Sep 4th, 2010 at 9:27pm:
Interesting topic, I had no idea what swamping was. Smiley

On the subject of jargon, most all professions have some kind of jargon or lingo. I still work part time for a soda company and we merchandisers (people who put things on shelves) have some strange jargon of our own. For example, if I told you that I just "threw" twenty cases of 7up, you might assume that I hurled them through the air some distance. In fact that means that I placed them on the shelf where they belong. Or if a shelf is "blown" you might picture the aftermath of a bomb. Really, a shelf is "blown" when it is empty or nearly empty.

I can't think of any for the other job. Aircraft terminology is normal to me. I mean really, who hasn't heard of a strut pump or a high tension retard vibrator breaker.� Tongue

Since you are familiar with merchandise on shelves, have you ever been sent to the back to get the shelf stretcher?� Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #9 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 2:40pm

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Larry...while he is there get him to pick up a bucket of prop wash for me.... Grin

A little off topic maybe but this is what they used to do to the new guys on the docks...

The DeHavilland DHC-3 Otter had a Relief Tube in the front cockpit as there was no lavatory/wash room in the rear cabin.
The exterior small pipe or rubber tubing was just to the rear of the port side double doors and off center so nothing would hit the tail wheel.

A new person was told they were going to help with a hydraulic check and they were to hold their hand under the small pipe or rubber tubing and when the liquid came out they were to catch the liquid in their hand and check out the colour and make sure their were no metal particles in it.

Someone would go up in the cockpit and relieve themselves... Grin

Some things wee little evil aviators do.... Grin

Oh and do those aviation mechanics really put winter air in aircraft tires when they install the ski's???? Cheesy

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Reply #10 - Sep 5th, 2010 at 3:32pm

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Reply #11 - Sep 6th, 2010 at 6:04am

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Goodly morning all... Smiley

That would be a good one Larry... Smiley

On Military and Commercial Aircraft the installation of Ski's, Floats, Amphibious Floats, Static Lines for parachutists and many other things must be done by a qualified peson and a signed, dated entry into the Aircraft Log Book made.

I have installed skis on several of my own bugsmashers many times and dated a signed entry into the Aircraft Log Book but with Transport Canada Rules and Regulations now, I am not sure if that would even be possible.
I think everything must be done by a qualified person which is good in many ways but adds to the cost of General Aviation.

A little off topic maybe but here in most automobile garages they will not let you stand by your vehicle and watch them change the oil, rotate the tires or do mechanical repairs.

You have to sit in a waiting room, Insurance Regulations they say is the reason.   Tongue

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
 

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Reply #12 - Sep 6th, 2010 at 5:26pm

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Flying Trucker wrote on Sep 6th, 2010 at 6:04am:
Goodly morning all... Smiley

That would be a good one Larry... Smiley

On Military and Commercial Aircraft the installation of Ski's, Floats, Amphibious Floats, Static Lines for parachutists and many other things must be done by a qualified peson and a signed, dated entry into the Aircraft Log Book made.

I have installed skis on several of my own bugsmashers many times and dated a signed entry into the Aircraft Log Book but with Transport Canada Rules and Regulations now, I am not sure if that would even be possible.
I think everything must be done by a qualified person which is good in many ways but adds to the cost of General Aviation.

A little off topic maybe but here in most automobile garages they will not let you stand by your vehicle and watch them change the oil, rotate the tires or do mechanical repairs.

You have to sit in a waiting room, Insurance Regulations they say is the reason.� �Tongue

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

Yeah, it's getting difficult to find a shop here that will allow you to watch. I've always preferred to watch what was being done to my vehicle, not that I did not trust the mechanic.
 

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Reply #13 - Sep 6th, 2010 at 5:58pm

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patchz wrote on Sep 6th, 2010 at 5:26pm:
Flying Trucker wrote on Sep 6th, 2010 at 6:04am:
A little off topic maybe but here in most automobile garages they will not let you stand by your vehicle and watch them change the oil, rotate the tires or do mechanical repairs.

You have to sit in a waiting room, Insurance Regulations they say is the reason.� �Tongue

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

Yeah, it's getting difficult to find a shop here that will allow you to watch. I've always preferred to watch what was being done to my vehicle, not that I did not trust the mechanic.

It's all down to that Elfin Safety chap. Mind you, I don't expect the mechanics are complaining. I never liked people looking over my shoulder while I was working. I'm quite happy to let them get on with it.
 

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Reply #14 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 5:45am

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Goodly morning all... Smiley

What I used to do with the vehicle and aircraft mechanics was ask them if everything looked okay or perhaps suggest to me what else I should get done.

I would ask their opinion about new vehicles or aircraft and perhaps if they would like a tea or coffee...I would then wonder off and leave them to their profession.... Wink

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