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Reply #15 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 11:48am

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Good morning all...

Glad you are okay Christian but I would see a doctor.

Canadian Traffic Law seem to be needed everywhere...

It is illegal to drive and use a cellular phone or text.  It can cost you the loss of your vehicle or perhaps a year in jail. 

The only units that can have two way radio communication or fact simile are emergency use vehicles, some commercial registered vehicles (taxicabs) and the military when driving.  Make sense.
If you have a cellular phone and want to use it you must pull off the road and park the vehicle.

Perhaps more countries should adopt these laws oh and you will love this one...
Caught driving carelessly and you can lose your vehicle and spend a little time behind bars, you don't want to know what they do if you have an accident or kill someone in an accident.  You can say goodby to your home and everything else as your insurance does not cover you if you are breaking the law.

Driving is a priviledge...not a right.    Wink

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Reply #16 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 12:15pm

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When you think about it, there are certain similarities between cell-phoning or texting while driving and flying VFR behind a big glass panel and GPS - you only look outside during the commercials  Smiley.
 

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Reply #17 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 12:16pm

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Flying Trucker wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 11:48am:
Canadian Traffic Law seem to be needed everywhere...

It is illegal to drive and use a cellular phone or text.  It can cost you the loss of your vehicle or perhaps a year in jail.

Since 1st December 2003 it has been illegal to drive in the UK while using a hand held mobile phone. Hands-free phones are allowed. http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/TheLawAndUsingYourMobilePhoneWhileDriving.html

Perhaps the penalties should be increased over here but I'm not convinced it would make much difference. I see more & more drivers ignoring this law every day because they know full well there is little chance of them being stopped by the police. It's no use making laws unless they can be enforced.
 

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Reply #18 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 1:35pm

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Hagar wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 12:16pm:
Flying Trucker wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 11:48am:
Canadian Traffic Law seem to be needed everywhere...

It is illegal to drive and use a cellular phone or text.  It can cost you the loss of your vehicle or perhaps a year in jail.

Since 1st December 2003 it has been illegal to drive in the UK while using a hand held mobile phone. Hands-free phones are allowed. http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/TheLawAndUsingYourMobilePhoneWhileDriving.html

Perhaps the penalties should be increased over here but I'm not convinced it would make much difference. I see more & more drivers ignoring this law every day because they know full well there is little chance of them being stopped by the police. It's no use making laws unless they can be enforced.



It is also illegal here in Germany. However, rules and regulations apply only to the neighbours and foreigners, not to German's themselves........ Lips Sealed

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Reply #19 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 3:36pm

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Flying Trucker wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 11:48am:
The only units that can have two way radio communication or fact simile are emergency use vehicles, some commercial registered vehicles (taxicabs) and the military when driving.
Mobile CB radios were very common when I was in the US midwest. We also used them in spotting squadrons (to warn of tornadoes). I put a specially made hook clip on my power mike so that I could key it with my knee -- I wanted both hands for driving and didn't want to have to look for a dropped microphone.



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Reply #20 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 4:05pm

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Ow Sad I'm glad you're alright!

That happened to my mom and I one time while driving to Dick's sporting goods to pick up baseball stuff! We were at a light and there was a car behind us, and someone rear ended her who rear ended us. Both cars behind us were totaled and our Mercury Mountaineer was fine Smiley The trailer hitch of our SUV caught most of the impact. Thankfully we didn't get whiplash! The worst part was the car behind us who got hit by the one who caused the wreck was going on vacation to Hampton beach up in Mass! Sad I hate drivers who don't pay attention. When I get my license, my phone will be OFF whenever I get into the car!  Smiley Smiley Smiley Again glad you're alright!  Cool
 

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Reply #21 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 1:18am

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When I get rear ended my vehicle magically shifts into reverse and hits the offender a few more times.  I dont know what it is.
 

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Reply #22 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 11:12am

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Obviously, I have years of experience and training of driving and talking on Police radio at the same time, often during high speed pursuits and en route to emergency calls at speeds above normal. If you think that is difficult, try it on a Police motorcycle. There were times on the motorcycle you just did not pick up the microphone until you were in a better/safer situation. I imagine they have headsets and voice activation now. But to the best of my knowledge, there is no driver training involving use of a cell phone while driving.
 

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Reply #23 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 11:58am

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At least you weren't in a Fiero. My sister was stopped at a light when some teenaged chick in her mom's minivan, rear-ended her doing about 40MPH. Shocked The whole back of the car "exploded". (Fiberglass, ya know)
 

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Reply #24 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 12:07pm

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This thread reminds me of a racket I read about recently. It seems to be spreading rapidly so watch out! You could be the next victim.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/surge-in-car-crash-scams-2058410.html

Surge in car crash scams

The number of "crash for cash" scams where drivers stage accidents to claim on insurance is increasing around the country, figures showed today.

Typically the racket - in which fraudsters claim thousands of pounds on innocent drivers' insurance - has been carried out in the north west of England.

But parts of London are in the top 10 hot spots for the first time, the latest data shows, with east London in sixth position and north London in ninth.

The Insurance Fraud Bureau (IFB) estimates around 30,000 accidents are staged each year, with each claim averaging around £17,000.

It costs insurers about £350 million, adding £44 to the premium of every driver in the country.

Birmingham is the UK's top fraud hot spot, the IFB said, with the other four top places taken by Liverpool, Blackburn, Manchester and Leeds.

Fraudsters usually brake suddenly on a clear road or roundabout to make an innocent motorist drive into the back of their vehicle.

They go on to claim for personal injury, damage to the car and recovery fees.

Sgt Mark Beales, from Greater Manchester Police, warned that criminals targeted their victims carefully.

He told the BBC: "What these fraudsters tend to pick on are people who are single mums or elderly people, people who are less likely to cause them any issues.

"They also target drivers of commercial vehicles, because drivers tend not to care as much if they're not driving their own vehicle."
 

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Reply #25 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:15pm

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This type or scam has been around a while in the States. But it won't work on someone who is not following too close and paying attention. If you have ever been in an accident where you are struck from the rear, you tend

to be paranoid about people following too close. I won't allow it for more than a few seconds. I either pull over to let them pass, or pull away from them, depending on the situation. And I don't follow too close. You never

know when an animal or child is going to run out in front of the vehicle in front of you.
 

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Reply #26 - Aug 30th, 2010 at 4:42pm

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patchz wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:15pm:
... I don't follow too close. You never know when an animal or child is going to run out in front of the vehicle in front of you.
This bothers me more in relation to bicycles. It's actually illegal to ride either a motored or non-motored vehicle (non-motored = bicycle) on the sidewalk. Here in Laconia most every bicyclist rides on the sidewalk right past 2 to 3-yr-olds walking alongside their parents.

However, out in the street where a bicycle is still considered a vehicle (and subject to the laws of the road), motor-vehicle drivers often treat them as if they don't belong there and tell them to get it on the sidewalk. In my hometown, in my teens, I once yelled back, "That's illegal! Why don't you pull over and hand carry your car on the sidewalk like the law allows!" I think they got too far away to hear the last of my response, anyway.


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Reply #27 - Aug 30th, 2010 at 5:27pm

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patchz wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:15pm:
You never know when an animal or child is going to run out in front of the vehicle in front of you. [/color]

Thats precisely why I despise anyone who is speeding (I mean really speeding... 5-10mph over, though not good, is definately a lot better than 20+mph over) or driving in a stupid manner or on their phone or whatever.

When I was about 11 I was stuck in traffic on the way to school and a cyclist pulled out through traffic to cross the road and got struck side on at 40 by another car and I saw it all. There was no foul play, just a bit of carelessness. Anyone who is doing something which puts another person in that of harms way just makes me feel ill inside. The accident like the one I mentioned was incredibly unfortunate. When driving a car... DRIVE IT.
 

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Reply #28 - Aug 30th, 2010 at 8:25pm

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machineman9 wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 5:27pm:
patchz wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:15pm:
You never know when an animal or child is going to run out in front of the vehicle in front of you. [/color]

Thats precisely why I despise anyone who is speeding (I mean really speeding... 5-10mph over, though not good, is definately a lot better than 20+mph over) or driving in a stupid manner or on their phone or whatever.

When I was about 11 I was stuck in traffic on the way to school and a cyclist pulled out through traffic to cross the road and got struck side on at 40 by another car and I saw it all. There was no foul play, just a bit of carelessness. Anyone who is doing something which puts another person in that of harms way just makes me feel ill inside. The accident like the one I mentioned was incredibly unfortunate. When driving a car... DRIVE IT.

When my daughter was about seven, I got a call one morning to a vehicle vs. pedestrian accident three blocks north of my house. It was at a school bus stop and a beautiful little seven year old girl had run out in front of a

lady. No blood, or visible injury. She looked like she was lying there asleep. I, on the other hand, did not sleep for a week. I kept visualizing my daughter lying there dead. The lady was not speeding and did nothing wrong.

There was no way she could have avoided it. Like I said, you never know when a child is going to run out in front of you and I don't think I could live with myself if I killed one. Hardest wreck I ever worked.
 

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Reply #29 - Aug 30th, 2010 at 9:12pm

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patchz wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 8:25pm:
When my daughter was about seven, I got a call one morning to a vehicle vs. pedestrian accident three blocks north of my house. It was at a school bus stop and a beautiful little seven year old girl had run out in front of a

lady. No blood, or visible injury. She looked like she was lying there asleep. I, on the other hand, did not sleep for a week. I kept visualizing my daughter lying there dead. The lady was not speeding and did nothing wrong.

There was no way she could have avoided it. Like I said, you never know when a child is going to run out in front of you and I don't think I could live with myself if I killed one. Hardest wreck I ever worked.

That must have been really awful  Undecided

When such awful things like that can happen when you do play by the rules, it just strikes me as odd as to why anyone would break the rules and hope it goes alright for them. Accidents can happen... I'd like to think that anyone who is being a good driver and gets into a collision of any sort is able to live without regret afterwards, whereas people who are breaking the rules will no doubt always ponder if things had gone differently if they were doing what they should've been doing.

It's unfortunate. There are so many people out there who just shouldn't be driving. In the case of this thread, I'm sure the collider will probably get a smack on the wrist, and get told 'try harder next time'.
 

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