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Reply #90 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 11:47pm

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If the Aerosoft payware that I own is any indication of the quality they will put out ....... then their sim likely will be a bit better than Microsoft's will be. 

However..... again... nothing to really go by.

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Reply #91 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 3:13am

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Keep It Simple wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 12:23pm:
I suspect that the word "sim" has been drpoped purely for marketing reasons.

The general public equates a "sim" as boring, difficult to master and only for the hard core.

I have been told by a few people who have bought MSFS in the past that It is boring and they found it impossible
to land a plane etc.

We all know that is not true of couse and now MS wants  to simply give FS an more user friendly tiltle the general public will be more attracted to.
Then once they got them, offer some fun things to do to hold their interest until they can gain some expertise in sim type flight.

This of couse does not mean that a hard core sim is not included as its core. MS has aread stated that "Flight" will remain true to MSFS' "hard core" fans.

Remember the timeless words of wisdom from  Shakespeare as he was talking about renaming a rose Smiley




UbiSoft did the same thing with the latest installment of Silent Hunter (The submarine sim).

They also went the more arcade style development to attract a wider audience.

It was such a fail it seems that Ubisoft in such an attempt managed to sink the silent hunter series completely.

How ironic, they sunk the sub.

Lets hope MS does not fly our beloved MFS series into Mt. Erebus.

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Reply #92 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 2:58pm

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JBaymore wrote on Aug 23rd, 2010 at 2:50pm:
Actual quotes get more scruitiny in the publishing world.  When there are a mixture of quotes and paraphrasing in an article, there is a deliberate choice thing going on there.   Paraphrasing allows for the writer's biases or parsing skills to become a part of the documentation.


Well, I wish I could point you to a public source for the verbatim quote you seek, but I will wager that time will prove it to be accurate...

...given that I know it to be true, but cannot for what should be obvious reasons* document.  Cool

* and no, it wasn't my third-cousin's great nephew who's neighbor works as a janitor at MSGS...  Cheesy
 

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Reply #93 - Sep 8th, 2010 at 10:39pm

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Since I first posted in the beginning, I have changed my opinion.

Based on my reading, Microsoft Flight appears to have been in development for about 18 months now. Microsoft is officially announcing it now as a Beta version will soon undergo internal testing. Add-on development is supposed to be easier than ever, showing that 3rd party developers may benefit from Flight being released. Performance is the #1 goal in Flight and has been since day one of the project.

My final opinion is that MS Flight will be better than FSX, with more realism and better performance. Online flying is focused on much more than in FSX. Flight will not be a little flying game. It should be a simulator. We should look forward to it. (But still not get our hopes up too much.)

My post is based on reading many blog entries and forum posts with people giving inside information they are getting from someone on the Flight Team. My info may not be accurate, but I feel that the people who are being negative about MS Flight should stop and just wait. At the moment, we don't know much more of the big details other than that it has been announced and it's a flight simulator. Give it a chance. It may end up being great.

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Reply #94 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 4:54am

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BrandonF wrote on Sep 8th, 2010 at 10:39pm:
Since I first posted in the beginning, I have changed my opinion.

Based on my reading....

My post is based on reading many blog entries and forum posts with people giving inside information they are getting from someone on the Flight Team.

My info may not be accurate...





Sources, or it never happened.  Roll Eyes

Without sources, everything posted in this thread is to be considered speculation, and personal opinion.

No exceptions.   Wink

Even if Bill Gates himself came in here saying he "read it somewhere",
I'd say he was full of crap if he didn't post his source.  Grin
 
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Reply #95 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 10:20am

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this whole this is confusing ,I only wish one thing ,MS think above all in the designers roll ,the series MSFS has been succeeded because of the independent designers around the world ,so make things easy for them..
remember the serie MSFS was ,A simulator ,a game ,and a game of design..
 

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Reply #96 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 10:23am
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Going off of what Shane mentioned above, we have to be wary of people that claim to know "insider info" but "cannot recall/release their sources". Many times, people will say this simply to draw attention to themselves and act as if they are extremely important and should be upheld as a valued asset (granted...with no substance).

There is absolutely no purpose to people stating "I know X,Y,Z about this project because I am so well connected, but I can't give you any details to back that up."

At the very least, it's a tease, and at the worst, it's being an "attention whore". If you have information to share about FSX, back it up with factual evidence. Teasing users here and elsewhere with claims of insider knowledge is not beneficial in any way. The only reason for teasing us with "facts and hints" from an "insider that you can't mention" is to stroke an ego.
 
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Reply #97 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 10:36am

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Reply #98 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 3:18pm

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Quote:
Going off of what Shane mentioned above, we have to be wary of people that claim to know "insider info" but "cannot recall/release their sources". Many times, people will say this simply to draw attention to themselves and act as if they are extremely important and should be upheld as a valued asset (granted...with no substance).

There is absolutely no purpose to people stating "I know X,Y,Z about this project because I am so well connected, but I can't give you any details to back that up."

At the very least, it's a tease, and at the worst, it's being an "attention whore". If you have information to share about FSX, back it up with factual evidence. Teasing users here and elsewhere with claims of insider knowledge is not beneficial in any way. The only reason for teasing us with "facts and hints" from an "insider that you can't mention" is to stroke an ego.

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Reply #99 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:38pm

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Jeez! Why do I even post anything?  Grin My point is: The people being so negative about Flight should stop. We don't know many details at all. If you have anything bad to say, I assume you guys could make a better flight simulator?  Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #100 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:27pm

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BrandonF wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:38pm:
Jeez! Why do I even post anything?  Grin My point is: The people being so negative about Flight should stop. We don't know many details at all. If you have anything bad to say, I assume you guys could make a better flight simulator?  Roll Eyes


LOL Well, as I found out early on, if you become an optomist about "Flight" you have wear your flak jacket. Smiley
 
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Reply #101 - Sep 10th, 2010 at 5:00am

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BrandonF wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:38pm:
Jeez! Why do I even post anything?  Grin


To raise that little number under your avatar.  Grin







BrandonF wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:38pm:
My point is: The people being so negative about Flight should stop.




Are you the opinion police now?  Huh










BrandonF wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:38pm:
We don't know many details at all. Smiley





But, you said above:



BrandonF wrote on Sep 8th, 2010 at 10:39pm:
Since I first posted in the beginning, I have changed my opinion.
My post is based on reading many blog entries and forum posts with people giving inside information they are getting from someone on the Flight Team.



so I was hoping you could post these blog locations, so that the rest of us could become just as informed as you claimed to be.

So which is it?  Roll Eyes









BrandonF wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 6:38pm:
If you have anything bad to say, I assume you guys could make a better flight simulator?  Roll Eyes



Oh really?  Roll Eyes


BrandonF wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 6:56pm:
My opinion on Posky is this: Their jets don't fly well. The models aren't made well. They have terrible support. (rude people on their forums...never go to them!!!) They say the spend so much time working on making the flight dynamics real and accurate. Personally, I think they absolutely fail at this. You can't even takeoff by the end of the runway in their 747-8F. A friend completely overhauled the flight dynamics for our VA, and the jet flies really well now.

I say, Posky is not the #1 place to look for quality airliner add-ons.

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Keep It Simple wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:27pm:
LOL Well, as I found out early on, if you become an optomist about "Flight" you have wear your flak jacket. Smiley



Optimism isn't bad, when there's actually something to base it off of. 
Going by M$ past performance record with new FS releases,
I'd say they are the ones who need to prove I'm wrong this time.
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Reply #102 - Sep 10th, 2010 at 9:50am

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Are you the opinion police now?


That appears to be your job now.  Grin

 
 
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Reply #103 - Sep 10th, 2010 at 10:03am

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Keep It Simple wrote on Sep 10th, 2010 at 9:50am:
Quote:
Are you the opinion police now?


That appears to be your job now.  Grin

 


Show me one place in this thread, or any other, where I've told someone, to not state their opinion.

I'm simply replying to the b.s. claims that people are making, such as the one you made above.

After re-reading through this thread,
I'd say those who aren't jumping on the M$ bandwagon and sucking the sack,
are the ones who need the flak jacket, as we seem to be the minority in this thread.

You can have your opinion, and I'm fine with that and respect it,
but be aware, that I too have an opinion, and it doesn't have to agree with yours.
 
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Reply #104 - Sep 10th, 2010 at 10:43am

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Guys, guys.. Take a chill pill and relax!

Why all this speculation and accusing, and instead wait for it to be released??

Cheer up, be friendly, and have a laugh with each other, instead of all this unhappy, un-SimV like mood, like I know it.. Sad

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