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Reply #75 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 10:26am

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Formula_1 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 9:45am:
I hope it is going to be a story based version of FS. I always thought that would be cool.
Start out in flight school and get job offers once it is completed. Jobs based on your success in the game. Like after flight school if you passed everything within certain scores, you would get different job offers. Like maybe crop dusting, bush flying or flight instructor. Then after gaining points in that job, new offers come in.
I would want it to have sim physics though.
Really just a career story built upon FS. That would be terrific to me.

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But really, if MS Flight is Flight Simulator (Next) only story based, I will love it.
I believe if they are going for the average gamer, it will have a story whether it is 'sim' or 'arcade'. If that proves true chances are I will be all over it. But I don't want to have to fly my Stearman through a tornado to deliver a tractor part to a farmer in Kansas. That would be going a bit over the top for me  Grin

We'll see, but I am certainly going to be keeping an eye on it.


I'm sure if they were going to try to appeal to the huge market they would add levels of control. IL2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey let you choose the realism settings. From easy up to 'realistic'. And the controls, physics and gameplay was affected from those choices. Other games let you select the individual aspects of the game you want to make harder. A lot of racing games let you turn off the racing line, ABS, traction control, etc, all independently of one another. MSFS have forever been doing this, but it will probably come under names for difficulty levels, then you can develop your own 'custom' difficulty level thereafter.

Atleast, that is how I can imagine it would be if this were a game for all generations and all persons.

P.S, I do like the story mode option. I am sure they would have 'free flight' and 'career mode' or something like that. That would be brilliant. Reckon money would affect it? Or bursaries/scholarships, etc. E.G earning $100 for a crop dust or something, but then get met by Red Bull and asked to fly a time trial to win flight training and a Red Bull Air Race passs.


Also... What about some kind of character progression? Change how your pilot looks, but also, change how the controls handle depending on your experience. A newbie pilot might have the controls a bit more shakey whilst they get to grips, but a more experienced pilot might have perfect control over the aircraft... Or is that going too far?

I think I'm just coming up with ideas instead of working with what we've been given.  Grin
 
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Reply #76 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 10:37am

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Well since MS has dropped "sim" from the title, we might as well remove the "sim" from the site name and call it "viation." Shocked Grin

I am wondering if MS wants to set up something like apple has for their app store and sell add ons(remember there are free apps too) from their site to make a profit?

Also with the mention of Windows live, I wonder if they are trying to replace VATSIM and have a "live" massively multiplayer sim/game?

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Reply #77 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 12:23pm

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I suspect that the word "sim" has been drpoped purely for marketing reasons.

The general public equates a "sim" as boring, difficult to master and only for the hard core.

I have been told by a few people who have bought MSFS in the past that It is boring and they found it impossible
to land a plane etc.

We all know that is not true of couse and now MS wants  to simply give FS an more user friendly tiltle the general public will be more attracted to.
Then once they got them, offer some fun things to do to hold their interest until they can gain some expertise in sim type flight.

This of couse does not mean that a hard core sim is not included as its core. MS has aread stated that "Flight" will remain true to MSFS' "hard core" fans.

Remember the timeless words of wisdom from  Shakespeare as he was talking about renaming a rose Smiley


 
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Reply #78 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:39pm

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Keep It Simple wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 12:23pm:
I MS has aread stated that "Flight" will remain true to MSFS' "hard core" fans.


Where?

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Reply #79 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:45pm

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How many people bought their Flight sims for the 'gaming' experience?


 
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Reply #80 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:48pm

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ShaneG wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:45pm:
How many people bought their Flight sims for the 'gaming' experience?


Eaxctly! Wink
There has be little "gaming" in MSFS. By offering a sim with some added gaming, it will open up a new customer base for FS which can lead to further developement.

The word gaming has been often misrepesented. Let's not loose sight of the fact that MSFS is in it's self is  a simulation "game". Game does not nessasarirly equate with "arcade".

BTW, This is not directed at anyone in particular but, it really does seem that some are filtering out info to support there own particular point of view. Smiley

 
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Reply #81 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 5:23pm

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JBaymore wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:39pm:
Keep It Simple wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 12:23pm:
I MS has aread stated that "Flight" will remain true to MSFS' "hard core" fans.


Where?

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Reply #82 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 8:07pm

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JBaymore wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 5:23pm:
JBaymore wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:39pm:
Keep It Simple wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 12:23pm:
I MS has aread stated that "Flight" will remain true to MSFS' "hard core" fans.


Where?

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This sentiment has be expresed by a few who are in a position to say.
This is one of them.
http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/111/1114324p1.html

Why do you think MS wiil no longer continue to market a flight simulator? A simple name change that is most likely just for marketing purposes?

BTW, my position is simply to wait and see some concrete details about "flight" before  tearing it down.
I really can't understand why some are taking a negitive stance on Flight  instead of having a bit of optimism.
There is plenty of time for optimism if future details about "Flight" warrent it.
All we have now is a name change Smiley
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Reply #83 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 10:10pm

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Keep It Simple wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 12:23pm:
I MS has aread stated that "Flight" will remain true to MSFS' "hard core" fans.


Sorry, but I just read the article you posted..... and did not see that direct sentiment quoted from Microsoft in there anywhere.

Can you point it out?

What I did take notice of was the quote from the Microsoft guy:

"I think the one piece that was missing was a big significant commitment from Microsoft Game Studios to push the service the same way Halo pushed the service on the console…that's been the missing element and that's what we're doing now."

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Reply #84 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 11:37pm

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Let's just say that we interpet certain things differently and leave it at that. Smiley
 
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Reply #85 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 2:21pm

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JBaymore wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:39pm:
Keep It Simple wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 12:23pm:
I MS has aread stated that "Flight" will remain true to MSFS' "hard core" fans.


Where?

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Here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20013915-56.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_me...

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The game is in its early development stages, with an alpha version nearly ready for internal testing, according to Kevin Unangst, a senior director in Microsoft's game unit.

The company is offering few details on Flight, but Unangst said that it is looking to
appeal to flying enthusiasts with the realism, accuracy, and fidelity they expect
, but also imagines including other types of gameplay that might appeal more to novices.

 
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Reply #86 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 2:50pm

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FrBill,

Thanks.

That was a third pary summary of some verbal discussion that supposedly went on.  Knowing how stuff that gets said can get interpreted, I don't value the third party stuff for all that much.  (I've been the subject for many journalists and reporters over the years... and they rarely get it all that accurate.)

I was thinking that there was an actual literal quote from a credited Microsoft employee.  Hoping for it really.

Actual quotes get more scruitiny in the publishing world.  When there are a mixture of quotes and paraphrasing in an article, there is a deliberate choice thing going on there.   Paraphrasing allows for the writer's biases or parsing skills to become a part of the documentation.

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Reply #87 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 3:17pm

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Sorry if this has already been mentioned... but is Aerosoft carrying on development of their flight simulator after this release?
 
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Reply #88 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 6:43pm

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Rich H wrote on Aug 23rd, 2010 at 3:17pm:
Sorry if this has already been mentioned... but is Aerosoft carrying on development of their flight simulator after this release?


I seriously doubt that anyone knows, including Aerosoft.
However if you want wild speculation, you came to the right thread! Grin
 
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Reply #89 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 9:30pm

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From what I'm seeing on the Aerosoft forums, they are not to happy with MS Flight now underway. They say they are continuing with their sim.

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