I personally feel that while this kind of thread certainly takes on a "gossip" quality, it is important for the things that the "public" are thinking to actually be MADE public.  The good, the bad, and the ugly of the reactions to what is communicated about the new product. 

I am darn sure that Microsoft will be watching the various flight sim forums via search bots for topics and comments relative to "Flight".  They've done that for fs2004 and FSX; no reason to change now.  If there is ANY chance of possibly influencing future development of this sim ....offering .... this kind of thread is a certain portion of from where it will come.

As a simpit owner, I see any moves away from increased modeling of accurate aircraft systems amd realism in flight dynamics and such as a move in the wrong direction.  And I NEED an open architecture so as to allow the interfacing into those modeled systems into a simpit.  BUT... I fully realize that I am in a tiny, teeny, miniscule minority as far as the flight software market is concerned.  Making a sim for ME would be a sure way to economic disaster.  Unfortunately. 

So while I can lobby as strongly as I can for that stuff.... I do not have high hopes of Microsoft listening to that as any kind of driving concern.  Maybe, just maybe... if it is easy... they will add a few things that appeal to my needs.

For me, I want a "PMDG 747 Queen of the Skies" level of systems accuracy for every aircraft available in the sim.  There can be a "dumb it down" button for every one of them..... but they have to have that kind of potential.   But ALSO with easy external hardware interfacing control into all of the switches and controls for those systems.  Nothing is "on-screen" in a simpit except outside views.  And I don't mind paying more for that kind of accuracy and access.

So all we have until this product is released is how our individual approaches to simming and abilities to parse official communications create impressions.  Those impressions are not wrong... they are just our individual thoughts on the subject. 

Sometimes listening to how others have interpreted the same information causes us to think and to digest and to refine our own thoughts.  Sometimes this causes us to change.  Sometimes this further cements our own impressions.

All in all.... it is a good discussion as long as it is kept civil.


best,

...............john

JBaymore wrote on Aug 19^th, 2010 at 11:15am:


I am aware, and very grateful to all the developers out there.  All I am saying is there is so much variation in the packaging of aircraft for download, someone not as computer and flight sim literate may have a very difficult time getting the aircraft to work and be able to enjoy the fruits of that developer's labor.

Keep It Simple wrote on Aug 20^th, 2010 at 1:47pm:



Yes it is way, WAY too early.  "Flight" is merely a glimmer in the developer's eyes.  Creating that now would be like sending out a High School graduation announcement when a woman was less than a week pregnant.


Why would it be "prudent"?  SimV is not a subsidiary of Microsoft.  It is an independent site.


And Yes!...... it is the Premier FS site........ but flight simulation is NOT synonomous with Microsoft.  At the moment, "Flight" does not exist.   Other than some absurd "we got there first" bragging rights...... no reason to have a new section yet.  A thread or two about it in "General" covers it pretty well for now.  If anything new comes along soon in the way of sections.... it might be an "X-Plane" section.

best,

............john

I would say it is way too early to get excited about this.  All we have is a 5 second shot, that probably is not the actual graphics from the game (like most ads for games, it is just an animation more than an actual screenshot).  Wait until MS releases some ACTUAL screenshots or video, or any kind of detail what so ever, because right now they have not.

You know, I remember there being a lot of teeth knashing over how FSX was going to be more like a game. Look how that turned out.

machineman9 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2010 at 4:19pm:


Correct.

We know nothing about it yet so this is all speculation.


to me it looks like its a step away from realistic simulators into a LOOK AT ME IM FLYING MAH AEROPLANES simulator.

Looks pretty atleast 

I hope it is going to be a story based version of FS. I always thought that would be cool.
Start out in flight school and get job offers once it is completed. Jobs based on your success in the game. Like after flight school if you passed everything within certain scores, you would get different job offers. Like maybe crop dusting, bush flying or flight instructor. Then after gaining points in that job, new offers come in.
I would want it to have sim physics though.
Really just a career story built upon FS. That would be terrific to me.

If it proves too much of an arcade game, I would likely pass on it. However, if it still supports all sim equipment I could live with arcade physics as long as the story and gameplay was good.
I'm a simmer at heart, but I enjoyed Test Drive Unlimited and Wings of Prey. The reason they were enjoyable to me was that 'sim' equipment works in them. Silly physics in TDU, but I didn't approach it as a 'sim' (rFactor, netKar Pro, etc). I played it as a fun freeroamiing arcade racer. I got a kick out of it. WoP isn't IL-2, but it is fun if not taken too seriously. I have room for both sim and arcade, but arcade must have the support for the right gear or I don't want to play it. TDU and WoP both did support all the right things (TrackIR, near full manual controls).

But really, if MS Flight is Flight Simulator (Next) only story based, I will love it.
I believe if they are going for the average gamer, it will have a story whether it is 'sim' or 'arcade'. If that proves true chances are I will be all over it. But I don't want to have to fly my Stearman through a tornado to deliver a tractor part to a farmer in Kansas. That would be going a bit over the top for me 

We'll see, but I am certainly going to be keeping an eye on it.