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Reply #45 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 12:33am

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FuturePilot wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 12:14am:
This is almost like a gossip thread!  Grin Lips Sealed Roll Eyes

This IS a gossip thread. Grin
 

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Reply #46 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 2:45am
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iirc, some people who worked on FS9 or FSX still work at Microsoft.... I beleive one person who worked on FS9 was rehired on a 'Microsoft project' earlier this year.
 
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Reply #47 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 2:57am
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"How do I install this aircraft?"

"I downloaded 'the' 767, how do I install it?"

"Where can I find such and such?"

"What's the best payware aircraft?"

We get these questions way too often. I bet you the majority of FSX users have never heard of PMDG.

I think it would be a great idea to have a feature integrated within MSFS, where every single payware or freeware addon for MSFS can be downloaded, and installed without the user having to follow instructions. Just point and click. It would add greater exposure to mods anyway. I don't think it's a bad thing if it's true.
 
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Reply #48 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 6:03am

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I think it would be a great idea to have a feature integrated within MSFS, where every single payware or freeware addon for MSFS can be downloaded, and installed without the user having to follow instructions. Just point and click. It would add greater exposure to mods anyway. I don't think it's a bad thing if it's true.

That's mostly down to developer standards. MSFS would have to uncompress the ZIP, work out which folder is the actual archive for the aircraft (sometimes developers put other folders in the way) and then extract the right folders and place them correctly.

I mean, I understand how to add them perfectly... But if the developer just made a README or made the entire addon a self installer, it would save time too.


So yeah, I think that idea is a good one, but the solution should have already existed in the way that developers package their own works.
 

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Reply #49 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:45am

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machineman9 wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 6:03am:
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I think it would be a great idea to have a feature integrated within MSFS, where every single payware or freeware addon for MSFS can be downloaded, and installed without the user having to follow instructions. Just point and click. It would add greater exposure to mods anyway. I don't think it's a bad thing if it's true.

That's mostly down to developer standards. MSFS would have to uncompress the ZIP, work out which folder is the actual archive for the aircraft (sometimes developers put other folders in the way) and then extract the right folders and place them correctly.

I mean, I understand how to add them perfectly... But if the developer just made a README or made the entire addon a self installer, it would save time too.


So yeah, I think that idea is a good one, but the solution should have already existed in the way that developers package their own works.


You hit the nail on the head, some developers do make it very simple (some even use .exe files to auto install), yet others do crazy things with the file structures.  I once downloaded an aircraft where there were .zip files in each of the model/panel/sound/texture folders that also had to be unzipped to function.  Or another couple of large freeware providers where you have to download model, panel, sound, textures separately and assemble it after download.
 
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Reply #50 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 11:15am

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machineman9 wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 6:03am:
I mean, I understand how to add them perfectly... But if the developer just made a README or made the entire addon a self installer, it would save time too.



DaveSims wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:45am:
I once downloaded an aircraft where there were .zip files in each of the model/panel/sound/texture folders that also had to be unzipped to function.  Or another couple of large freeware providers where you have to download model, panel, sound, textures separately and assemble it after download.


Please remember as you bite the hand that feeds you...... you are getting all this work for FREE.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #51 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 12:56pm

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JBaymore wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 11:15am:
Please remember as you bite the hand that feeds you...... you are getting all this work for FREE.  Roll Eyes

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I'm not complaining about the quality, I am merely concious of those who might not understand the file structure quite so well.

There are freeware autoinstallers around. I'm sure they don't take too long to set up. For the sake of those who don't know the file structure quite so well, it would be nice to have a standardised way of packaging the addons.

If MF had SDK software which packs and unpacks the files, that would do the same task. Just select the plane, it searches for the related media (textures, files, sounds, etc) which are linked to it, and bundles them up a proprietary file type. Then unpackages them and adds them. It's a better standard and it wouldn't be much more effort for devs to do.
 

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Reply #52 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 3:39pm

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yancovitch wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 12:23am:
i think we should get everyone here and in every other site to totally ignore this ...pretend it isn't and never was....that's the response they deserve


Why? MS disbaned ACES an put a hold os FS purely for economic reasons.
I hope you are not  nieve and think that MS was ever developing FS for any other reason than monitary gain. Wink

Now, they evdently believe the time is right to resume developement on it and want to insure a good monitay return by adding aspects to the sim to make it more attractive to the masses.
As long as they keep it a "sim" at heart, I personally welcome them expanding it.

When all is said and done MSFS has always been just  a glorified computer game It's a damn good one but, still.......Smiley

 
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Reply #53 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 5:19pm

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So THIS is what it's like in the FS world before a new release huh? I didn't get FSX until Nov.08 when I finally got a rig that can run it past the splash screen so I missed the past few "here comes the next version" seasons. I've read through many pre-release discussions of video games. But this I know is a different and more mature crowd. I will be following this with popcorn in my hand.

I hope the FS community is treated better than the train and city building sim crowd has been treated lately with the direction companies been taking the past couple years.
 

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Reply #54 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 7:24pm

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Mistro wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 5:19pm:
So THIS is what it's like in the FS world before a new release huh? I didn't get FSX until Nov.08 when I finally got a rig that can run it past the splash screen so I missed the past few "here comes the next version" seasons. I've read through many pre-release discussions of video games. But this I know is a different and more mature crowd. I will be following this with popcorn in my hand.

I hope the FS community is treated better than the train and city building sim crowd has been treated lately with the direction companies been taking the past couple years.


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Reply #55 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 7:32pm

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A bit more info.......
http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/111/1114324p1.html

One key line from the article is, ".....Unangst described the plan as akin to what JJ Abrams did with Star Trek – simultaneously be respectful of the hardcore fans while injecting new life into the games.....".
 
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Reply #56 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:34pm

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Keep It Simple wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 7:32pm:
A bit more info.......
http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/111/1114324p1.html

One key line from the article is, ".....Unangst described the plan as akin to what JJ Abrams did with Star Trek – simultaneously be respectful of the hardcore fans while injecting new life into the games.....".




I like to hear that MS is rethinking PC gaming. I hope it is truth!
 

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Reply #57 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 11:23pm

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i kinda feel it's still a cheap promotional gimmick.....showing little respect to the loyal simmers by throwing that little sardine, just enough to pull the strings to make everyone jump up and down, left and right.........................makes me feel sad for some reason.....
 

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Reply #58 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 11:43pm

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Well, after a day or so I've calmed down enough from my initial freak-out about my spectulations that I can join the discussion. Grin

I at first thought that this would be an unrealistic video game that could only be run with a monthly subscription and having addons only through MS. Then I started to bang my head repeatedly against the wall.

As for the standardizing of all add-ons and having MS install them for you, I really hate that idea. I am a very DIY person with flight sim and I like to mess with everything myself.
 

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Reply #59 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 6:59am

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Goodly morning all... Smiley

This Topic like Aircraft Crashes in the Real Aviation Forum I find for myself with limited knowledge is best to keep quiet and wait for the HOLLYWOOD MOVIE to come out... Wink      Roll Eyes      Lips Sealed

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