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Reply #120 - Sep 21st, 2010 at 7:09pm
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A new video has been put up on the Flight website along with an FAQ. Very cool!


http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/

Interesting. Hopefully we'll see some in game movies/shots soon (those look like renders to me). I am very glad that a preliminary FAQ section is present now, and answers many questions that users in the community have had.

So......we "know" the following:

It will be for the PC....NOT X-Box.

MS is claiming that existing fans of the FS franchise will be accommodated with no decrease in realism/fidelity with the new program. "...full fidelity simulation" (their words)

MS claims that "some" members of the ACES team are working on this project.

It will be designed to take advantage of our increasingly social online societies. New, easy ways to connect with others in the FS community will be present through this program.

New features will be added to cater to users who have never before used or considered using a Flight Simulator program, and will be designed as to not scare them off due to the complexity.


Unknowns/Unanswered questions:


There are still many unknowns regarding the third party addon scene.

We do not know what game engine is being used. The wording implies that it is a completely different system/approach from the FS code/style. This could result in a very fresh new start for addon creators that wish to stay relevant when this program hits the market.

Internet connection required at all times to use the software? (increasingly common with many other programs)

We have no screenshots/videos to go off of showing what the new sim/progam will be like, unless what is shown is in game. (Again, they look like renders to me....but I could be wrong.)



The bottom line:

There will VERY likely be a tremendous amount of upheaval across all reaches of the flight simulation community as this knowledge and more comes to light. We still have many unknowns, but we also have some comforting assurances that I believe dominated many of the subject lines in queries about this program.
The only thing we can do is wait and see what Microsoft brings us.
Arguing, demanding, pleading, and rumor spouting will do no good as the FS community absorbs more knowledge about this.
A common trend will be to see some users claiming inside knowledge. They may be right in the long run, but it's worthwhile to be cautious. If you have knowledge of a particular aspect of this program and cannot back it up with sources, do not post it.
A new era begins in personal flight simulation, and I for one am now very optimistic about this program, thanks to these new updates.
 
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Reply #121 - Sep 21st, 2010 at 8:04pm

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Not going to fully believe this, as the guy has no proof that the info is from an actual Microsoft guy.


""Oh man, I wish I could share with you some of the tidbits of information I'm getting from developers. I'll say this... developers should be happier with the next iteration of FS. My understanding is it is more geared towards development than ever before. Let's hope the buzz I am hearing from several developers is true.""

Source:
http://forum.avsim.net/topic/294987-additional-clues-about-ms-flight/

Cool

PS: Sean, great post and conclusion. I agree 100%!!!  Smiley
 
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Reply #122 - Sep 22nd, 2010 at 10:11am

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I'll say this: if FSX aircraft don't work in it in a smooth transition, I'm not interested. It was just a few months ago that I finally got a machine that would run FSX and it has taken time and effort to build it to what I have now. If they can't create it to use previous aircraft and scenery well, they need to start over. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking too it. Roll Eyes
At least until I see something to change my mind.....

And what the heck is 'Silverlight'? I really hate following a link only to find out I have to download some new program to see anything.
 

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Reply #123 - Sep 22nd, 2010 at 10:54am

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From the linked post:  "Other interesting technologies for this team include: 3D Studio Max, Maya"

Well, now.  I have Maya (haven't fiddled with it yet) and the local Jr College's 3D animation course uses Maya.  Imay have to dust off the book, fiddle with Maya, and maybe go to colleg this coming spring..

I'm just curious as to how add-ons would be handled?
 

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Reply #124 - Sep 22nd, 2010 at 12:13pm

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Boikat wrote on Sep 22nd, 2010 at 10:54am:
I'm just curious as to how add-ons would be handled?


THAT is the $10,000,000 question.  Wink

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Reply #125 - Sep 22nd, 2010 at 1:45pm

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Must be getting serious now, it has its own topic.

I am concerned about the "whole new from the ground up experience."  I do not even us FSX much as I am very comfortable with FS9.  I guess I will have to wait and see what comes of it, I just hope Microsoft remembers we don't all own supercomputers, and build a program that can run on your average computer.
 
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Reply #126 - Sep 22nd, 2010 at 8:21pm

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My two cents. I think you cannot produce a better simulator that runs on average hardware unless the business end of the sim IS coming from a server. Lo and behold, the bottleneck would now become your internet provider AND your system. How will MS please us and their stockholders? I hope for the best, but I think the MS giant has been watching during the sim hiatus and seeing the payware and freeware deluge of products and downloads bypassing their cash registers. I'm truely sorry that my opinion of this is so negative but I know full well that MS is only doing this for the profits that they can reap.
(For the shareholders)..
                          FSX..
                          and FS9 is in the mail..     Cool
 

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Reply #127 - Sep 22nd, 2010 at 8:27pm

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Computers are constantly being improved. FSX was released over four years ago. So by now, MS should be able to make their sim look good AND perform well on today's computers. Like they said, performance has been their #1 goal since day 1. I need to find that article....

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Reply #128 - Sep 22nd, 2010 at 10:44pm

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I'm sure they are aiming at what would be considered a "high end" PC by todays standards.  Probably a 4 GHZ system, minimum, and a high end graphics card.  I saw an "Avatar on-line" game about a month after the movie came out, and just off the top of my head, I seem to remember it's system requirements were for a 3, or 3.5 GHZ, processor.  Again, that was the *minimum* requirement for the CPU.

Are 8 GHZ processors on the market yet?  I haven't checked lately....  Tongue
 

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Reply #129 - Sep 22nd, 2010 at 10:54pm
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patchz wrote on Sep 22nd, 2010 at 10:11am:
I'll say this: if FSX aircraft don't work in it in a smooth transition, I'm not interested. It was just a few months ago that I finally got a machine that would run FSX and it has taken time and effort to build it to what I have now. If they can't create it to use previous aircraft and scenery well, they need to start over. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking too it. Roll Eyes
At least until I see something to change my mind.....


What he said! Cool
 
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Reply #130 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 8:32am

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Guess I missed reading something somewhere. If Steve is right, and your internet speed is a factor in how well it runs, then my interest in it lessens even more.

[rant]And I am sick of the constant upgrade hardware/upgrade software war between the manufacturers. They need to slow down progress, not speed it up. There is such a thing as too much progress too fast, and imho, we

reached it about five or ten years ago, at least as far as personal computing goes. I guess I'm somewhat like Paul, I don't like change, and becoming a 'disposable' society is one of the biggest mistakes we have ever

allowed. [/rant]
 

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Reply #131 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 11:31am

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patchz wrote on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 8:32am:
Guess I missed reading something somewhere. If Steve is right, and your internet speed is a factor in how well it runs, then my interest in it lessens even more.

[rant]And I am sick of the constant upgrade hardware/upgrade software war between the manufacturers. They need to slow down progress, not speed it up. There is such a thing as too much progress too fast, and imho, we

reached it about five or ten years ago, at least as far as personal computing goes. I guess I'm somewhat like Paul, I don't like change, and becoming a 'disposable' society is one of the biggest mistakes we have ever

allowed. [/rant]


Not get too far off topic, but I agree totally.  A woman that works with my girlfriend just asked us for advice on which laptop to buy.  All she wants to do is get online and look at photos of her grandkids.  She does not need a 1TB harddrive, 8G of RAM, and a quad core processor to do that, but that is what they tried to sell her.  Even my computer has a 750GB harddrive, packed full of music, FS9 and FSX, and pictures, and I still have 500GB open.  I have the 3Ghz quad core processor, 8G of RAM, and all that, but FSX still runs slow on low to middle graphic settings on a computer that is less than a year old.  I don't think should have to invest thousands of dollars in an Alienware type computer for flight sim.
 
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Reply #132 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 11:45am

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Well.... Roll Eyes....

Without spending loadsamoney on a complete, very expensive, Computer build, I am (happily) limited to running my Trusty FS '98/2000/2002 and 2004, whilst my copy of FSX lies in darkness in my bottom drawer...
..and with other, more important, priorities in mind, that wont be happening any time soon... Smiley.... Wink...!

I must admit that I play this "stuff" just for fun, like I did on my old 8_bit Computers*, long, long ago... Grin...!

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Reply #133 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 12:20pm

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 11:45am:
*Clive Sinclair: The King is Dead. Long live the King!... Grin...!.


+1  Wink

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Reply #134 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 1:18pm

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they now have a general e-mail address posted for suggestions, I already sent a suggestion but would appreciate you all to second my thought.



military AI (all able to include)
RARE AI that you have to be lucky to come across (ex: AN-225, snowbirds, thunderbirds, lancaster and other vintage aircraft, red arrows, avro vulcan, etc.)

 

Carriers would be so mush easier to land on if they would just stop turning!!!
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