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May 30th, 2010 at 12:03pm

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No, i'm not joking. I was at the Kjeller Millitary Airport Airshow today, and there we flew a 60+ year old Douglas DC-3 Dakota. It was a blast - probably the best flight i've ever had. Even though it cost quite a lot of money (500 norwegian kroner for one person - 500 Kroner = 78 Dollars) it was well worth it. Here are some pictures.

Oh, and I apologize if these photos are kind of blurry - my camera isn't really up to date, and it is generally pretty messed up (especially this stupid.. fingerprint? it seems that blurs a lot. I'm definately using some of my birthday money on a new camera, lol). But still - it's a flight on the DC-3. You don't get to fly on a historic aircraft every day, huh? Roll Eyes

On the ground, waiting for takeoff clearance

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After takeoff. Let me just tell you about the takeoff first. I imagined it would be VERY noisy, but it was really not that bad. It was just shaky. EXTREMELY shaky. It felt like the plane was going to tear itself apart, lol. It was very pleasant too - you don't get the feeling you get in modern jets, that you just ROAAAAAAAAAR down the runway and then you rocket into the sky at a 20-degree angle. The DC-3 accelerated very slowly, and finally, we took off veeeeeeeeeeeeery slowly and carefully - you could barely feel the wheels lifting from the ground. You don't get that weird feeling in your stomach either. I filmed the takeoff, but I can't really upload it anywhere. (besides my trip report blog, I might upload the takeoff, in flight and landing videos there soon) Anyway, the photo.

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Over what norway is known for - the huuuuge woods.

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/DC3MGAP3.jpg

Over Oslofjorden - the plane was very nice to fly. Sometimes it would drop and you would feel weightless. It was just amazing fun. And Dakota Norway are just soooo good at taking care of it - it was spotless inside, even though the plane itself is more than sixty years old.

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After a while, we went to the cockpit. It was really cool in there, and the extra seat in the back of the cockpit had a special window that was kind of... built outwards, so that you could take photographs facing directly downwards. That is how the next photograph is taken.

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And yes, this next one was really blurry, but it is the cockpit of a real DC-3 - the only thing they've changed is adding a GPS. Other than that, the cockpit is just like it was when the plane was built. Pretty amazing. And btw, it isn't that easy taking pictures when the plane is shaking like there's no tomorrow.

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Descending back into Kjeller. By now I was thinking "CRAP! I don't want to get off this plane. This is the most fun i've had in ages!" Amusement parks should bow down to this amazing plane. It is way more fun than our local amusement park!

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/DC3MGAP7.jpg

After landing. The landing was also amazing - really soft. As i'm sitting here writing this i'm comparing this to my landings in 737s (:L) - this landing was A LOT softer. Landings in 737s are very unpleasant. Also, I really like the tail on this plane - so nice looking. The entire plane is nice looking.

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So thanks for looking, and I hope you enjoyed, even though the quality isn't the best. But still - you don't get to fly on these planes everyday. Cheesy
 

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Reply #1 - May 30th, 2010 at 12:09pm

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Very nice opportunity there.....I love the colourscheme of that Dak too....very shiny Cheesy

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Reply #2 - May 30th, 2010 at 12:17pm

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Yeah Mic, these guys know how to clean their planes. Unlike a certain airline Grin

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Reply #3 - May 30th, 2010 at 12:52pm

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Lucky chap. Smiley

Due to stupid EU regulations you couldn't do that in this country now. http://www.classicflight.com/goodbyeDakotas
 

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Reply #4 - May 30th, 2010 at 3:00pm

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As a member of Danish Dakota Friends, I have flown aboard OY-BPB several times, it's a pleasure to fly the old lady  Smiley
 

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Reply #5 - May 30th, 2010 at 9:48pm

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When I worked in Alaska, the FAA used DC3's as Navaid flight check aircraft so the chance for a ride was always there.  One of my memories is being in the back and feeling that rudder action on takeoff.
 

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Reply #6 - May 30th, 2010 at 10:28pm

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$78 for a vintage plane ride? That's a bargain in my book! Any of the old WW2 aircraft rides I've seen rage from $150-$500 at best. And I'm fairly certain I've seen a P-51 (loggable flight time tho) go for over $1000.

Sure is a beautiful aircraft! Is there any chance that you were flying over Sandefjord near Torp airport? Huh I remember seeing a DC-3 flying there while I was staying with my relatives last summer. The one you were on looks very similar.
 

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Reply #7 - May 31st, 2010 at 11:20am

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Hagar wrote on May 30th, 2010 at 12:52pm:
Lucky chap. Smiley

Due to stupid EU regulations you couldn't do that in this country now. http://www.classicflight.com/goodbyeDakotas


What a sensible country Norway is not signing up to the EU.
Looked like a great expericence ..... I flew on a DC3 in my childhood .... only problem I was too young to remember it.
 

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Reply #8 - May 31st, 2010 at 3:57pm

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I am envious... that price is very good for such a ride, especially in such a well-kept "Gooney"!

Airline travel sure was a lot more civilized back then, but remember: DC-3s are unpressurized, so back in the day they had to stay below 10,000 with pax, and had minimal weather info before or during flights. It was routine to penetrate nasty weather, even at night, at low altitudes. I have met some older folks folks who do not remember their DC-3 airline-trip experiences fondly!   Undecided

Still, as with the Tri-Motor and other early airliners, I would personally rather spend 5 hours bouncing around in turbulence in a big comfy seat with lots of legroom, with barking radials out on the wings, than spend even one hour crammed in Coach in any jet flown today.  Grin

And the pilots who flew DC-3s regularly loved them, even when they complained bitterly about the leaks, difficulties loading/unloading cargo, and plowing into nasty weather.
 

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Reply #9 - Jun 1st, 2010 at 8:49am

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olderndirt wrote on May 30th, 2010 at 9:48pm:
When I worked in Alaska, the FAA used DC3's as Navaid flight check aircraft so the chance for a ride was always there.  One of my memories is being in the back and feeling that rudder action on takeoff.


Yeah, it was quite a feeling climbing into the plane - it was like a steep hill! Not like these modern day jetliners that are great to walk in. When we were on the ground, we actually had to work our way to our seats! Grin

BAW0343 wrote on May 30th, 2010 at 10:28pm:
$78 for a vintage plane ride? That's a bargain in my book! Any of the old WW2 aircraft rides I've seen rage from $150-$500 at best. And I'm fairly certain I've seen a P-51 (loggable flight time tho) go for over $1000.

Sure is a beautiful aircraft! Is there any chance that you were flying over Sandefjord near Torp airport? Huh I remember seeing a DC-3 flying there while I was staying with my relatives last summer. The one you were on looks very similar.


You're right =) I've seen way more overpriced things in Norway, actually. I guess it's kinda expensive taking care of that old bird though.

It is indeed beautiful! We might have. We flew over some large woods, then out over Lillestrøm, and then out to Oslo, so we might have crossed Sandefjord as well. Not that I know that much about Norway though - i've never had Geography in school before now! Shocked

And last but not least, this plane is pretty unique, and the Kjeller Airshow was at about the same time last year, so yeah - it was probably this DC-3. Did you like Norway when you were here?

eno wrote on May 31st, 2010 at 11:20am:
What a sensible country Norway is not signing up to the EU.
Looked like a great expericence ..... I flew on a DC3 in my childhood .... only problem I was too young to remember it.


I mainly agree on the EU thing, but everything is really expensive here. Adults who can get money on their own without having to beg their parents are fine with the high prices (since you get paid A LOT in this country even if you only have a mediocre job)

So in a way, I would prefer Euros over Kroner. When she visits home, my sister always tells us about how everything is waaaaaaaay cheaper down in Spain. <_>

beaky wrote on May 31st, 2010 at 3:57pm:
I am envious... that price is very good for such a ride, especially in such a well-kept "Gooney"!

Airline travel sure was a lot more civilized back then, but remember: DC-3s are unpressurized, so back in the day they had to stay below 10,000 with pax, and had minimal weather info before or during flights. It was routine to penetrate nasty weather, even at night, at low altitudes. I have met some older folks who do not remember their DC-3 airline-trip experiences fondly!   Undecided

Still, as with the Tri-Motor and other early airliners, I would personally rather spend 5 hours bouncing aro
und in turbulence in a big comfy seat with lots of legroom, with barking radials out on the wings, than spend even one hour crammed in Coach in any jet flown today.  Grin

And the pilots who flew DC-3s regularly loved them, even when they complained bitterly about the leaks, difficulties loading/unloading cargo, and plowing into nasty weather.


It used to be called the "Gooney"? Hahah x'D.

Oh, so it was unpressurized? I didn't realize that. That's why it flew at such a low altitude and why the air was so much better than in normal airliners (pressurized air is horrible)

And to end this post, i'll say that after entering the plane, we were told about how much the pilots loved the DC-3, and how they wanted to keep it flying forever. It's been flying for about 70 years now - I'm sure they can make it fly for 100 years if they want to! Cheesy
 

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Hagar wrote on May 30th, 2010 at 12:52pm:
Lucky chap. Smiley

Due to stupid EU regulations you couldn't do that in this country now. http://www.classicflight.com/goodbyeDakotas



The UK are the only one's to take notice as usual. The JU52 is 10 cm higher in the door hight from the ground (this is the actual sticking point) than the DC3 and it is still flying. Why is Lufthansa getting away with it??

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expat wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 10:05am:
Hagar wrote on May 30th, 2010 at 12:52pm:
Lucky chap. Smiley

Due to stupid EU regulations you couldn't do that in this country now. http://www.classicflight.com/goodbyeDakotas



The UK are the only one's to take notice as usual. The JU52 is 10 cm higher in the door hight from the ground (this is the actual sticking point) than the DC3 and it is still flying. Why is Lufthansa getting away with it??

Matt

I understand that this legislation covers aircraft with a seating capacity of 19+. The Lufthansa Ju 52 seats 16 passengers so is not affected. http://www.lufthansa-ju52.de/en/Ju-52-Gift-Vouchers/Ju-52-gift-vouchers.php

I believe that Air Service Berlin still operates its DC-3. How do they get away with  it? http://www.air-service-berlin.de/index.php5?page=1-0-0-0-1-1-2&lang=2
 

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Reply #12 - Jun 1st, 2010 at 1:29pm

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FlyingPerson wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 8:49am:
olderndirt wrote on May 30th, 2010 at 9:48pm:
When I worked in Alaska, the FAA used DC3's as Navaid flight check aircraft so the chance for a ride was always there.  One of my memories is being in the back and feeling that rudder action on takeoff.


Yeah, it was quite a feeling climbing into the plane - it was like a steep hill! Not like these modern day jetliners that are great to walk in. When we were on the ground, we actually had to work our way to our seats! Grin

BAW0343 wrote on May 30th, 2010 at 10:28pm:
$78 for a vintage plane ride? That's a bargain in my book! Any of the old WW2 aircraft rides I've seen rage from $150-$500 at best. And I'm fairly certain I've seen a P-51 (loggable flight time tho) go for over $1000.

Sure is a beautiful aircraft! Is there any chance that you were flying over Sandefjord near Torp airport? Huh I remember seeing a DC-3 flying there while I was staying with my relatives last summer. The one you were on looks very similar.


You're right =) I've seen way more overpriced things in Norway, actually. I guess it's kinda expensive taking care of that old bird though.

It is indeed beautiful! We might have. We flew over some large woods, then out over Lillestrøm, and then out to Oslo, so we might have crossed Sandefjord as well. Not that I know that much about Norway though - i've never had Geography in school before now! Shocked

And last but not least, this plane is pretty unique, and the Kjeller Airshow was at about the same time last year, so yeah - it was probably this DC-3. Did you like Norway when you were here?

eno wrote on May 31st, 2010 at 11:20am:
What a sensible country Norway is not signing up to the EU.
Looked like a great expericence ..... I flew on a DC3 in my childhood .... only problem I was too young to remember it.


I mainly agree on the EU thing, but everything is really expensive here. Adults who can get money on their own without having to beg their parents are fine with the high prices (since you get paid A LOT in this country even if you only have a mediocre job)

So in a way, I would prefer Euros over Kroner. When she visits home, my sister always tells us about how everything is waaaaaaaay cheaper down in Spain. <_>

beaky wrote on May 31st, 2010 at 3:57pm:
I am envious... that price is very good for such a ride, especially in such a well-kept "Gooney"!

Airline travel sure was a lot more civilized back then, but remember: DC-3s are unpressurized, so back in the day they had to stay below 10,000 with pax, and had minimal weather info before or during flights. It was routine to penetrate nasty weather, even at night, at low altitudes. I have met some older folks who do not remember their DC-3 airline-trip experiences fondly!   Undecided

Still, as with the Tri-Motor and other early airliners, I would personally rather spend 5 hours bouncing aro
und in turbulence in a big comfy seat with lots of legroom, with barking radials out on the wings, than spend even one hour crammed in Coach in any jet flown today.  Grin

And the pilots who flew DC-3s regularly loved them, even when they complained bitterly about the leaks, difficulties loading/unloading cargo, and plowing into nasty weather.


It used to be called the "Gooney"? Hahah x'D.

Oh, so it was unpressurized? I didn't realize that. That's why it flew at such a low altitude and why the air was so much better than in normal airliners (pressurized air is horrible)

And to end this post, i'll say that after entering the plane, we were told about how much the pilots loved the DC-3, and how they wanted to keep it flying forever. It's been flying for about 70 years now - I'm sure they can make it fly for 100 years if they want to! Cheesy



The name "Gooney Bird" came out of WWII... originally referred to the C-47, but I use it to refer to all variations; it's simpler.  Grin
Despite being unpressurized, they can actually fly quite high if the crew has onboard oxygen and the boosters are working- during WWII, C-47s and even "conscripted" airline DC-3s were used to haul cargo over "the Hump"... through the Himalayas between India and China. It was not uncommon for them to go as high as 20,000 feet.
 

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Reply #13 - Jun 1st, 2010 at 6:54pm

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FlyingPerson, I completely loved Norway. I fully intend to return one day, perhaps after school.

And Sandefjord is south of the Oslofjord. I think it was a 2 hour train ride from Sandefjord to Oslo. Small town, like many many others in the area.

You are a lucky person to be living there  Wink Even if it is expensive.  I mean really, $12 for a McDonald's meal?? That's twice the price as here in the States.  Cool
 

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Reply #14 - Jun 2nd, 2010 at 1:31pm

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BAW0343 wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 6:54pm:
FlyingPerson, I completely loved Norway. I fully intend to return one day, perhaps after school.

And Sandefjord is south of the Oslofjord. I think it was a 2 hour train ride from Sandefjord to Oslo. Small town, like many many others in the area.

You are a lucky person to be living there  Wink Even if it is expensive.  I mean really, $12 for a McDonald's meal?? That's twice the price as here in the States.  Cool


That sounds good Cheesy

So yeah, we were probably flying over Sandefjord. Sad how much I suck at geography. xD

I'm actually 50/50 about living here. The summers are really enjoyable (if it doesen't rain A LOT), but I really dislike the 5 months of winter and 1 meter deep snow.

And quit making me envious! ._.
 

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