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Reply #15 - Jun 2nd, 2010 at 6:55pm

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DaveSims wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 8:49pm:
ShaneG wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 6:32pm:
Thrust vectoring and modern guts in the F-14.


B-52 built to the specs of Dale Brown's 'Old Dog'


B-36 with B-2 engines in place of the props.


F-15 that turns into a robot with a superiority complex.



The B-52 comment gave me a thought.  There was talk of upgrading the Buff's engines to more powerful high bypass fans, and to reduce the number from 8 to 4.  I would also think the same could be done with the 747.  They could put just two of the engines from the 777 on a 747 with power to spare.

The B-52 Idea was canned because the wings hang so low when fully loaded for a bomb run, that the only motors that can go there are the new/old motors they are about to sling on the E-8C, the JT8D. So you would make the same power and not really gain any thing by it.

And would you want to mess up the great looks of the 747 by stripping off the motors? If any thing you want to have 4x GE90's on that bad boy, that way you can have the power to weigh ratio to do a tail stand in a heavy like an F-18.
 
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Reply #16 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 11:29am

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OVERLORD_CHRIS wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 6:55pm:
DaveSims wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 8:49pm:
ShaneG wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 6:32pm:
Thrust vectoring and modern guts in the F-14.


B-52 built to the specs of Dale Brown's 'Old Dog'


B-36 with B-2 engines in place of the props.


F-15 that turns into a robot with a superiority complex.



The B-52 comment gave me a thought.  There was talk of upgrading the Buff's engines to more powerful high bypass fans, and to reduce the number from 8 to 4.  I would also think the same could be done with the 747.  They could put just two of the engines from the 777 on a 747 with power to spare.

The B-52 Idea was canned because the wings hang so low when fully loaded for a bomb run, that the only motors that can go there are the new/old motors they are about to sling on the E-8C, the JT8D. So you would make the same power and not really gain any thing by it.

And would you want to mess up the great looks of the 747 by stripping off the motors? If any thing you want to have 4x GE90's on that bad boy, that way you can have the power to weigh ratio to do a tail stand in a heavy like an F-18.

747 does not have too much excess underwing space either. Boeing could not put the 787 Genx engines under 747-8 and had to design a special, smaller Genx for the 747-8.

How about, an A380-800 modified with Trent XWB engines, brakes on all main wheels, centre fuel tank and MTOW boosted to 605 t? What will the range be like, with light payloads?
 
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Reply #17 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 4:43pm

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Reply #18 - Jun 24th, 2010 at 10:10pm

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Thrust vectoring, canards, and modern guts in a F-14.

A super F-22 with canards and rotary weapons bays with 6 hard points each.

A SR-71 with modern guts, more powerful engines and internal weapons bays.

A stealth SU-37 with US avionics.

A 747-8 outfitted like a VC-25 for a private jet.
 
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Reply #19 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 4:56am

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RaptorF22 wrote on Jun 24th, 2010 at 10:10pm:
A SR-71 with modern guts, more powerful engines and internal weapons bays.


Do they make an engine any more powerful?  I know they have the scram jet now, but would it work on the Blackbird?







RaptorF22 wrote on Jun 24th, 2010 at 10:10pm:
A stealth SU-37 with US avionics.


I believe their new plane, is pretty much just that.  Smiley

It's ugly as sin too.  Tongue  Wink
 
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Reply #20 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 9:20am

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ShaneG wrote on Jun 25th, 2010 at 4:56am:
RaptorF22 wrote on Jun 24th, 2010 at 10:10pm:
A SR-71 with modern guts, more powerful engines and internal weapons bays.


Do they make an engine any more powerful?  I know they have the scram jet now, but would it work on the Blackbird?


I don't know, but I would go with scramjets or ramjets surrounding a modern version of the SR-71s engines.
Along with composite/titanium reinforcement.




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RaptorF22 wrote on Jun 24th, 2010 at 10:10pm:
A stealth SU-37 with US avionics.


I believe their new plane, is pretty much just that.  Smiley

It's ugly as sin too.  Tongue  Wink


The SU-47?
 
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Reply #21 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 12:12pm

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Reply #22 - Jun 25th, 2010 at 12:30pm

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Fozzer wrote on Jun 25th, 2010 at 12:30pm:
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Reply #24 - Jun 26th, 2010 at 12:22pm

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Mitch. wrote on Jun 26th, 2010 at 4:44am:
Fozzer wrote on Jun 25th, 2010 at 12:30pm:
..a R-4360 Wasp Major would be very nice, but maybe a bit too heavy?... Roll Eyes...!

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Reply #25 - Jun 26th, 2010 at 2:33pm

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Thought about this in another thread.  Take the plans for the Spruce Goose, but build it using modern composites and propulsion.  Its design was too far ahead of its time, and might be more feasible now.
 
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Reply #26 - Jun 26th, 2010 at 5:23pm

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DaveSims wrote on Jun 26th, 2010 at 2:33pm:
Thought about this in another thread.  Take the plans for the Spruce Goose, but build it using modern composites and propulsion.  Its design was too far ahead of its time, and might be more feasible now.



I would love to see that. 

Other than cost, I don't see why it couldn't work.  Smiley
 
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Reply #27 - Jun 26th, 2010 at 11:21pm

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Boeing is working on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Pelican
 
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Reply #28 - Jul 16th, 2010 at 10:29am

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Reply #29 - Jul 16th, 2010 at 10:33am

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specter177 wrote on Jun 26th, 2010 at 11:21pm:
Boeing is working on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Pelican

That thing is as ugly as sin. Tongue
 
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