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May 25th, 2010 at 10:37am

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Is there a list of what prefexes in aircraft registration numbers refer to what countries? For example, "N" I know refers to U.S. registration. ie N845US.
 
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Reply #1 - May 25th, 2010 at 10:53am

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Reply #2 - May 25th, 2010 at 10:55am

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flipside wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 10:37am:
Is there a list of what prefexes in aircraft registration numbers refer to what countries? For example, "N" I know refers to U.S. registration. ie N845US.


Google:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_registration

Paul...G-BPLF...G = United Kingdom (England)... Wink...!

Doug....Snap!.... Grin..!

Extra...Doug, Do you know what the letter immediately following the "G-" signifies;, eg; G-Bxxx?
I assume its the the approximate date, or period, of the initial registration of the Aircraft?
In my Flight Sim case: G-B(PLF ...my initials).

G-BHAC....(Hereford Aero Club).
 

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Reply #3 - May 25th, 2010 at 11:44am

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In Canada it is "C-" Which is either followed by an "F" or a "G". Some airplanes, older airplanes, will still have the "CF-" designation on them, but most these days just have "C-F..." or "C-G..."
 
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Reply #4 - May 25th, 2010 at 12:40pm

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Airfield ICAO Codes for Countries:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Civil_Aviation_Organization_airport_c...

Paul...G-BPLF...EGBS.... Cool...!
 

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Reply #5 - May 25th, 2010 at 12:45pm

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Fozzer wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 10:55am:
Extra...Doug, Do you know what the letter immediately following the "G-" signifies;, eg; G-Bxxx?
I assume its the the approximate date, or period, of the initial registration of the Aircraft?
In my Flight Sim case: G-B(PLF ...my initials).

G-BHAC....(Hereford Aero Club).

I believe it was originally a natural progression. In 1919 (when Britain still had an Empire) the British Empire was allotted the letter G followed by by a dash and 4 more letters. The first letters after the dash identified the country. Great Britain was allotted G-E*** (for powered fixed wing types) & G-F*** (balloons & airships), Australia G-AU**, Canada G-CA** & New Zealand G-NZ**.
Then in 1928 the Dominions got  their own letters & the British ones started all over again at G-AAAA. Registrations were allocated strictly in alphabetical order so when they reached G-AZZZ they carried on with G-BAAA. With a couple of exceptions out-of-sequence registrations were not permitted until 1974 when owners could choose their own personal letters (like G-DOUG) if available.

G-AAAA was a DH.60G Gipsy Moth owned by Sir Geoffrey de Havilland.
G-AZZZ is a DH.82A Tiger Moth owned by the secretary of the de Havilland Moth Club.


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In my Flight Sim case: G-B(PLF ...my initials).

G-BPLF was allocated to a hot-air balloon in 1989 & cancelled in 2001. British registration letters cannot be re-allocated.
 

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Reply #6 - May 25th, 2010 at 4:44pm

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Given the variety that is available in the US (N#, N##, N#A, N##A, N###, N####, N#####, N###A, N####A, N#AA, N##AA, N###AA, etc.), there are a large amount of possible registration numbers.  How ever in a system of of just four letters, the amount of available numbers is much smaller.  What do nation's do about running out?
 
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Reply #7 - May 25th, 2010 at 4:54pm

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DaveSims wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
Given the variety that is available in the US (N#, N##, N#A, N##A, N###, N####, N#####, N###A, N####A, N#AA, N##AA, N###AA, etc.), there are a large amount of possible registration numbers.  How ever in a system of of just four letters, the amount of available numbers is much smaller.  What do nation's do about running out? 

Well, we haven't run out yet & unlike the US N numbers UK registrations cannot be re-issued. I think it goes to prove that there are far more civil aircraft in the USA than other countries.

I'm no mathematician & have no idea of the number of possible permutations in a 4-letter registration.  Perhaps some clever clogs can work it out. (The letter Q is not used in UK registrations.)
 

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Reply #8 - May 25th, 2010 at 5:54pm

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Hagar wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 4:54pm:
........ unlike the US N numbers, UK registrations cannot be re-issued.



Bit of a shame, that.... Cry....

Cessna 152; G-BHAC was a regular sight at; "Herefordshire Aero Club" (HAC) before her fatal crash...>>>

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/march_2007/cessna_a152__g_bhac.cfm

....so the Club lost their individual, registered Aircraft, forever!

Shame...I miss her!

http://www.aeroclub.co.uk/Default.aspx

Paul.

The Balloon, G-BPLF, didn't fare to well either!... Cry...!

..(someone stuck a pin in it?).... Grin...!
 

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Reply #9 - May 25th, 2010 at 8:03pm

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Hagar wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 4:54pm:
I'm no mathematician & have no idea of the number of possible permutations in a 4-letter registration.  Perhaps some clever clogs can work it out. (The letter Q is not used in UK registrations.)


There are approximately 1,679,616 combinations that can be used in 4 unit registrations with 26 letters and 10 numbers, including Q. There are 1,500,625 without Q.

Sorry, my genious is showing  Roll Eyes

=EDIT=
In a standard 5 unit registration excluding "N" there are only 658,008. wierd huh?  Grin
 

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Reply #10 - May 25th, 2010 at 11:03pm

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SaultFresh wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 11:44am:
In Canada it is "C-" Which is either followed by an "F" or a "G". Some airplanes, older airplanes, will still have the "CF-" designation on them, but most these days just have "C-F..." or "C-G..."


For example: The prototype of the deHavilland DHC-2 Beaver was CF-FHB (the 'FHB' stood for Frederick H. Buller, the designer.)

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Reply #11 - May 25th, 2010 at 11:45pm

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I believe the correct word is "Genius". While "Genious" seems to be used by more and more people, it has no dictionary entry, and also appears as a misspelled word on the forum's spell check.

As for the "CF-..." thing, I didn't know that about the Beaver, but then again, it was around long before my parents were even thought of, haha. I do know that many older aircraft bare a similar insignia to that, like CF-TCC, which is a Lockheed 10A Electra once used for Trans-Canada Airlines, as well as one of Buffalo Airways' Douglas C-54 Skymaster's (CF-BAA) and their Norseman (CF-SAN). Those are the only three I know, but I'm sure there are hundreds registered across Canada, each with a unique story.
 
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Reply #12 - May 26th, 2010 at 2:37am

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SaultFresh wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 11:45pm:
I believe the correct word is "Genius". While "Genious" seems to be used by more and more people, it has no dictionary entry, and also appears as a misspelled word on the forum's spell check.

Tyler is obviously better at maths than at spelling. Thanks Tyler. Wink

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As for the "CF-..." thing, I didn't know that about the Beaver, but then again, it was around long before my parents were even thought of, haha. I do know that many older aircraft bare a similar insignia to that, like CF-TCC, which is a Lockheed 10A Electra once used for Trans-Canada Airlines, as well as one of Buffalo Airways' Douglas C-54 Skymaster's (CF-BAA) and their Norseman (CF-SAN). Those are the only three I know, but I'm sure there are hundreds registered across Canada, each with a unique story.

You can check the vintage Canadian civil aircraft register (1919 to 1939) here --> http://www.goldenyears.ukf.net/reg_CF-.htm
 

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Reply #13 - May 26th, 2010 at 3:10am

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Well that's a pretty neat website. It says that CF-TCC was sold to the U.S. though, :0( that's unfortunate. I got to see it once last summer as it was making it's way across the country (of Canada) from its home (in Winnepeg, Manitoba... I think) to Baddeck, Nova Scotia to celebrate the centennial year of powered flight in Canada.
 
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Reply #14 - May 26th, 2010 at 3:31am

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SaultFresh wrote on May 26th, 2010 at 3:10am:
Well that's a pretty neat website. It says that CF-TCC was sold to the U.S. though, :0( that's unfortunate. I got to see it once last summer as it was making it's way across the country (of Canada) from its home (in Winnepeg, Manitoba... I think) to Baddeck, Nova Scotia to celebrate the centennial year of powered flight in Canada.

That was in 1969. The aircraft has since been returned to Canada. http://www.acfamily.org/tcc/history.html
 

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