Simviation Forum - F1 Pick'em Monaco

Reply #15 - May 15^th, 2010 at 9:12am

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Mitch. wrote on May 15^th, 2010 at 9:10am:

Now tell me how Mark Webber got pole with a 1.13.8, 3 tenths faster then anyone else over the entire weekend? Shocked

I didn't see that coming either. I thought Kubica was going to have it for sure.

Wish Massa could have picked up a little more, but maybe he'll get really lucky tomorrow. Grin

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Reply #16 - May 15^th, 2010 at 9:17am

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I think Webber could be a force to be reckoned with this year. I have always rated him (since Minardi), but he has never really had the equipment to show his true potential IMO. Possibly some bias from me though as he is by far my favourite driver.

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Reply #17 - May 15^th, 2010 at 11:39am

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VVM wrote on May 15^th, 2010 at 9:17am:

I think Webber could be a force to be reckoned with this year. I have always rated him (since Minardi), but he has never really had the equipment to show his true potential IMO. Possibly some bias from me though as he is by far my favourite driver.

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VVM wrote on May 15^th, 2010 at 9:17am:

I think Schumacher could be a force to be reckoned with this year. I have always rated him (since Ferrari), but he has never really had the equipment to show his true potential.

Sorry could not resist Grin

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Reply #18 - May 15^th, 2010 at 11:42am

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lol, how many people predicted alonso to be on the podium?

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Reply #19 - May 15^th, 2010 at 1:24pm

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on May 15^th, 2010 at 11:42am:

lol, how many people predicted alonso to be on the podium?

I watched Practice 3 at work on the internet... and completely forgot to change my prediction. Ooops.

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Reply #20 - May 15^th, 2010 at 6:09pm

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Lets wait and see but dont count out Alonso moving up the field. Couple of safety cars at the right moments and he'll be at least in a good points place. The soft tyres will last all of 10 to 14 laps on the front runners cars.
For the geeky few, todays pole lap was faster than that in 2004. So much for controling speeds Roll Eyes

I'm thinking Kubica for a win tomorrow.

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Reply #21 - May 15^th, 2010 at 6:17pm

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Craig. wrote on May 15^th, 2010 at 6:09pm:

Lets wait and see but dont count out Alonso moving up the field. Couple of safety cars at the right moments and he'll be at least in a good points place. The soft tyres will last all of 10 to 14 laps on the front runners cars.
For the geeky few, todays pole lap was faster than that in 2004. So much for controling speeds Roll Eyes

I'm thinking Kubica for a win tomorrow.

Of course, I had forgotten about the "Alonso Advantage" which has been practiced in the past. Just have Massa stick it in the wall at La Rascasse

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Reply #22 - May 15^th, 2010 at 6:53pm

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Nah we have Vitaly "cant go a session without damaging a car" Petrov for that. Wink

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Reply #23 - May 16^th, 2010 at 8:21am

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Sat here watching the race and apparently there is some bloke called Webber up front, but you would think that Alonso is leading and lapping everyone Roll Eyes

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Reply #24 - May 16^th, 2010 at 9:54am

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LMAO, Schumi got Alonso perfectly.
Brilliant drive by Webber. Looking very formidable.

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Reply #25 - May 16^th, 2010 at 10:13am

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Hmm this Schumi Alonso incident could be interesting.
They have to decided if the race was ended under safety car conditions or not.

Ross Brawn thinking the same way as me. Green flags waving, safety car in message on the boards, race on. Alonso got Owned as the kiddies like to say.

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Reply #26 - May 16^th, 2010 at 10:51am

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Craig. wrote on May 16^th, 2010 at 10:13am:

Hmm this Schumi Alonso incident could be interesting.
They have to decided if the race was ended under safety car conditions or not.

Ross Brawn thinking the same way as me. Green flags waving, safety car in message on the boards, race on. Alonso got Owned as the kiddies like to say.

What happened with Schumi and Alonso? I missed the last 15 laps or so. My wife came home and her car only had 3rd, 4th and 5th gears operating Undecided

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Reply #27 - May 16^th, 2010 at 11:02am

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3 laps to go, trulli and chandok collide at Rascasse. last lap, message comes up on the board, "safety car in this lap" Back at La Rascasse, Alonso and Schumacher pass the Safety car line with green flags and lights flashing. Alonso gets some bad wheel spin and Schumi passes him into the final turn taking 6th place.

The confusion comes now from a rule
Article 40.13 of the 2010 regulation states that 'If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking."

However, this is nullified by the fact that race control put on the teams info board, "safety car in this lap" and then waved the green flags. Had the race ended still under Safety car conditions, the yellows will have still been flying and the SC boards out even if the car had peeled into the pit lane.

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Reply #28 - May 16^th, 2010 at 11:08am

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So does it come down to either:
-The rule was correctly interpreted, and then exploited during a brain fart by officials, and they keep the spot...
or
-F1 admits they messed up and decide whether or not to swap their spots back?

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Reply #29 - May 16^th, 2010 at 11:27am

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Someone on autosport has posted an interesting picture.

http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/125019

The end of the aussie GP last year when the exact same situation occured. That though is a picture of how a race would have ended under the safety car.
This however is the end of this GP

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