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Reply #30 - Apr 16^th, 2010 at 8:38pm

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expat wrote on Apr 16^th, 2010 at 4:12am:

Curiously, I have just looked on Google Earth and can see no sign at all of the supposed "volcanic ash cloud".

Last photo taken there was 2002-2008. More recent photos are 2008/2009 in most places. Seems unlikely to have volcano ash from eruptions that hadn't happened yet.

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Reply #31 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 12:52am

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machineman9 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2010 at 8:38pm:

expat wrote on Apr 16^th, 2010 at 4:12am:

Curiously, I have just looked on Google Earth and can see no sign at all of the supposed "volcanic ash cloud".

Last photo taken there was 2002-2008. More recent photos are 2008/2009 in most places. Seems unlikely to have volcano ash from eruptions that hadn't happened yet.

plus to get live imaging I beleive you need the expensive ver. of google earth

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Reply #32 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 12:56am

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I would've thought that live imagery is only available for those with access to Keyhole or Kosmos satellites.

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Reply #33 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 4:16am

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..on the live BBC Radio News this morning...

Many, many Folks in the City of London, and around the Major Airports, saying how much they are enjoying the peace and quiet, free from the constant drone of Aircraft overhead... Smiley

..!
They are making the most of it, as it may be that last time in their lifetime that they will experience it... Kiss

...!
My Sister lives in Fulham, in London, and she already noticed the lack of Aircraft, and their accompanying noise, when viewed from the roof-top of her block of Flats!

She wakes up to the sound of Bird song in the morning now....

...which is lovely... Smiley

...!

Paul....in the quietness of my garden!... Cool

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Reply #34 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:49am

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...and look at the sky: not a single contrail and no 'noise' -just plain sunshine and the sound of birds... Cool

Edit: while writing this on my terrace, chilling, a pesky chopper overflies the abandonned sky. Roll Eyes

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Reply #35 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 7:03am

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Meck wrote on Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:49am:

...and look at the sky: not a single contrail and no 'noise' -just plain sunshine and the sound of birds... Cool

Edit: while writing this on my terrace, chilling, a pesky chopper overflies the abandonned sky. Roll Eyes

Ignoring the sounds of road traffic, the absence of the sound/noise of Aeroplanes is what it must have been like in times of yore... Smiley

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...just the occasional sound of Horses hooves...

Paul....I'm enjoying all of this peace!... Wink

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P.S. ....as I typed this, a lonely Cessna 150/152 drifted slowly overhead....but I don't mind them!... Kiss

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Reply #36 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 9:12am

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As this Volcano ash seem to mainly affect Commercial Passenger Jet Aircraft containing fragile turbines engines, what about the use of Piston Engined, Propeller Aircraft instead?
...possibly flying at lower altitudes?

It could be vital for Air Freight very soon!

There seem to be no problem with the General Aviation, Piston Prop Aircraft which occasionally pass over my garden?

Pistons and Propellers?

Paul.... Wink

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Reply #37 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 10:16am

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Indeed the piston-fraction doesn't seem to be affected that much: several (g/a) props were still flying today, though imo not as many as on a usual sunny saturday.

The question would be: does an a/c pistonengine have an airfilter like all cars have? I'd guess so... Only problem could be the pitot-tube then. And as stated in our lokal newspaper, the cloud manly affects heights above 6000 ft (or was it meters? And again confuzzlement about metric/imperial system). So low 'n slow should be perfect today - don't forget to entertain the flight controllers as they might be bored...

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Reply #38 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 10:38am

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Meck wrote on Apr 17^th, 2010 at 10:16am:

Indeed the piston-fraction doesn't seem to be affected that much: several (g/a) props were still flying today, though imo not as many as on a usual sunny saturday.

The question would be: does an a/c pistonengine have an airfilter like all cars have? I'd guess so... Only problem could be the pitot-tube then. And as stated in our lokal newspaper, the cloud manly affects heights above 6000 ft (or was it meters? And again confuzzlement about metric/imperial system). So low 'n slow should be perfect today - don't forget to entertain the flight controllers as they might be bored...

Yep...

Piston Prop Aero engines do contain Air Filters on the air intake to their Carburettors, like motor cars, etc, and are easily cleaned/replaced.

I would have thought that the Volcano dust would not have affected the Air Filters (clogging-up) any more seriously than Dust Storms, Sand Storms, etc, down nearer ground level.

Paul...Cessna 150....for Hire....Reasonable rates...(Air Filters extra)... Grin

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Reply #39 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 8:42pm

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Tai-2 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2010 at 12:52am:

machineman9 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2010 at 8:38pm:

expat wrote on Apr 16^th, 2010 at 4:12am:

Curiously, I have just looked on Google Earth and can see no sign at all of the supposed "volcanic ash cloud".

Last photo taken there was 2002-2008. More recent photos are 2008/2009 in most places. Seems unlikely to have volcano ash from eruptions that hadn't happened yet.

plus to get live imaging I beleive you need the expensive ver. of google earth

The images should generally be up to 3 years old. I believe the 'pro' edition of Earth and the Enterprise edition just gives you higher resolution prints and movie modes or something like that.

Live streaming would cost more than a $400 license I'm sure Grin

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Reply #40 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 2:09am

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...and would be illegal I'm sure - at least it is in germany!

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Reply #41 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 3:38am

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Meck wrote on Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:49am:

...and look at the sky: not a single contrail and no 'noise' -just plain sunshine and the sound of birds... Cool

Indeed. A lovely blue sky all day yesterday. No wind & not a cloud in sight. Looks like being the same today. While I feel sorry for all those people stranded at airports I must admit it makes a nice change. I could easily get used to this. Wink

I drove from the Midlands back home to the South Coast yesterday. It was a real treat driving on the M25. No congestion or hold-ups going past Heathrow. Shocked

This was the first time I've ever seen the motorway matrix signs saying Heathrow & Gatwick Airport Closed.

PS. No sign of the ash cloud where I was although my car is covered with fine dust.

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Reply #42 - Apr 20^th, 2010 at 12:35am

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Thought this photo was neat. This is the cause of this mess.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/1004/icevolcano_fulle.jpg

No, it's not 'shopped, it really does look that amazing!

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Reply #43 - Apr 20^th, 2010 at 4:36am

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Its easy to forget that that innocent? little Island, mostly covered in ice and snow, a few miles North of Great Britain, is actually an extremely geologically active part of the Planet!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland

Mid Atlantic Ridge: Iceland..>>>

Fault Zones

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Reply #44 - Apr 20^th, 2010 at 4:37am

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machineman9 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2010 at 8:38pm:

expat wrote on Apr 16^th, 2010 at 4:12am:

Curiously, I have just looked on Google Earth and can see no sign at all of the supposed "volcanic ash cloud".

Last photo taken there was 2002-2008. More recent photos are 2008/2009 in most places. Seems unlikely to have volcano ash from eruptions that hadn't happened yet.

Irony and a sense of humour are not strong on the forum today Roll Eyes

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