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Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:04pm

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Reply #1 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:12pm

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Alejandro Rhodes wrote on Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:04pm:


Thanks for the heads-up, Alex...

Close.... Shocked...!

More news on Kron 4 (San Francisco news)...>>> http://www.kron4.com/

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Reply #2 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:18pm

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You can hear the voice of the lady copilot tremble with fear  to the controler ..BTW Some Controler are A..H..  Sad
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Reply #3 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:20pm

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Alejandro Rhodes wrote on Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:18pm:
You can hear the voice of the lady copilot tremble with fear  to the controler ..BTW Some Controler AH Shocked


Even in the Flight Sims, Silicon Valley and the surrounding area, is an amazingly busy place for Aircraft. Lots of major Airports, and restricted airspace!
Very scary for light Aircraft!

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Reply #4 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 11:38pm

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Reply #5 - Apr 1st, 2010 at 5:24am

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Am I the only one to see this as a non story. TCAS does exactly what it is supposed to do, air traffic does exactly what it is supposed to do and the pilots do what they have been told.

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Reply #6 - Apr 1st, 2010 at 7:37am

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expat wrote on Apr 1st, 2010 at 5:24am:
Am I the only one to see this as a non story. TCAS does exactly what it is supposed to do, air traffic does exactly what it is supposed to do and the pilots do what they have been told.

Matt



Yes and no.  There was clearly a violation committed here, as those aircraft should have never came within miles of each other.  However, the media is reporting every incident, slip up, or whatever you will call it, that aviation has had recently.
 
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Reply #7 - Apr 1st, 2010 at 9:55am

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DaveSims wrote on Apr 1st, 2010 at 7:37am:
expat wrote on Apr 1st, 2010 at 5:24am:
Am I the only one to see this as a non story. TCAS does exactly what it is supposed to do, air traffic does exactly what it is supposed to do and the pilots do what they have been told.

Matt



Yes and no.  There was clearly a violation committed here, as those aircraft should have never came within miles of each other.  However, the media is reporting every incident, slip up, or whatever you will call it, that aviation has had recently.


How did this get leaked? Was it one of the pilots or what? Because I don't think anyone on the ground would've really been paying attention to the sky hard enough to see this close call, even then it would've only lasted a second.  Huh
 

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Reply #8 - Apr 1st, 2010 at 11:04am

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Because it is being investigated, it becomes public knowledge.  All you have to do is go to the NTSB website.  That is why a lot of these incidents don't make headlines until weeks later, takes time to update the site.
 
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Reply #9 - Apr 1st, 2010 at 3:47pm

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expat wrote on Apr 1st, 2010 at 5:24am:
Am I the only one to see this as a non story. TCAS does exactly what it is supposed to do, air traffic does exactly what it is supposed to do and the pilots do what they have been told.

Matt



Mmm, I sat on my hands (ouch!) for a few hours and had a think.

Yes and no*. Certainly a TCAS RA in the big scheme of things is a non event. However the circumstance of this one are of note - getting a descending RA at that height, although probably not dangerous as such, would be very "uncomfortable" (event though most are resolved in a couple of hundred feet), and, due to the configuration, weight, and power settings of the aircraft on departure, quite a manoeuvre - certain to scare the proverbial out of your pax within 30 seconds of takeoff!

I think the United captain summed it up perfectly to the controller:

"We need to have a talk"...

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Reply #10 - Apr 1st, 2010 at 5:16pm

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Tyler012 wrote on Mar 31st, 2010 at 11:38pm:
Last thing you want is to pi** off a female Airline Pilot.  Grin


oops!  Grin To late now.  Roll Eyes
 
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