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Rudder Pedals... (Read 733 times)
Mar 28
th
, 2010 at 6:16am
Fozzer
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Hello Chums...
Anyone who is using the Saitek (or CH) Rudder Pedals...>>>
Pedalling!
Is it possible to disengage the coupling linkage between the pedals to use the same pedals for Driving Simulation; ie, independent "Accelerator and Brake", instead of linked, alternate action, "Rudder" use?
Cheers!
Paul...18 Wheels of Steel...and and twin Air Horns!...
....!
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Mar 28
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, 2010 at 10:23am
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Fozzer wrote
on Mar 28
th
, 2010 at 6:16am:
Hello Chums...
Anyone who is using the Saitek (or CH) Rudder Pedals...>>>
Pedalling!
Is it possible to disengage the coupling linkage between the pedals to use the same pedals for Driving Simulation; ie, independent "Accelerator and Brake", instead of linked, alternate action, "Rudder" use?
Cheers!
Paul...18 Wheels of Steel...and and twin Air Horns!...
....!
"Rubber Duck...over and out"...
...!
If you mean making one move and the other not at the same time, not sure. Maybe if you open it up and do a little adjusting.
Why not use toe breaks for that tho?
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Mar 28
th
, 2010 at 11:39am
Fozzer
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I haven't obtained any Pedals, yet...
...!
I'm making my enquiry before I waste over £100 for them...and then find it cannot be done!...
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The Pedal specifications don't readily indicate that this can be done!
Paul...(With lots of Truck driving simulators...as well as Aeroplanes!).....
...!
I have a Trust Steering wheel and pedals, (£25) but the Pedals are of poor quality, and not very effective.
Meep-Meep!
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Mar 28
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, 2010 at 11:54am
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You might try this with your question uksupport@madcatz.com Looks like a US email address but last time I used it, a guy in England responded.
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Mar 28
th
, 2010 at 12:00pm
Fozzer
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olderndirt wrote
on Mar 28
th
, 2010 at 11:54am:
You might try this with your question uksupport@madcatz.com Looks like a US email address but last time I used it, a guy in England responded.
Quite a number on Simmers here own Rudder Pedals, and I assume that someone here may know if the Manufacturers enabled a simple adjustment to them, to disengage the coupling linkage, to make them suitable for Driving Simulators?
Come on.....Rudder Pedal Owners!...
...!
Paul...Honk...Honk...
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Mar 28
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, 2010 at 12:28pm
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The giant dial in the middle appears to control the dampening to make it easier or harder to push the pedals. I'm not sure if that can fully lock up.
One of my favourite questions about this bit of hardware is 'do you need these to control the brake and thrust of your plane?'.
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Mar 28
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, 2010 at 8:20pm
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Paul,
I don't own these pedals but I did look at a set in a store a while back. My general impression of them was that they were very "gamey" and flimsy in construction when compared to even the CH pedals.
From a cursory overview of the general design... I'd certainly guess that they are not able to be "unlinked". But that is a guess from a fast "look see".
I hope this helps... and I HOPE that someone who owns a set chimes in here soon for you.
best,
................john
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Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 3:57am
Fozzer
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JBaymore wrote
on Mar 28
th
, 2010 at 8:20pm:
Paul,
I don't own these pedals but I did look at a set in a store a while back. My general impression of them was that they were very "gamey" and flimsy in construction when compared to even the CH pedals.
From a cursory overview of the general design... I'd certainly guess that they are not able to be "unlinked". But that is a guess from a fast "look see".
I hope this helps... and I HOPE that someone who owns a set chimes in here soon for you.
best,
................john
Ta, John....
...!
I am beginning to suspect that not very many of our Flight Simmers actually own a set of Rudder Pedals, (or Flight Yoke, etc), due to the enormous expense of them!....
...!
Pedals like the CH Pedals appear to me to be very expensive for a metal plate containing two pedals operating a couple of Potentiometers!
The plastic "Driving Pedals" (Accelerator and Brake), are similar in construction, and cost but a few Pounds...and include a Steering Wheel, to boot!...
...!
It looks as though I will need to "upgrade" my present £25 "Trust" Steering Wheel and Pedals for another set with more suitable Pedals.....
...example....>>>
Fozz Need For Speed!
Paul....and a Peterbilt 388, 18-Wheeler.....make way!....
...
...
...!
http://www.peterbilt.com/index.aspx
...and for fellow "Truckers"...>>>
http://www.scssoft.com/
...Dive Safely!
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Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 6:39am
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Fozzer wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 3:57am:
Paul....and a Peterbilt 388, 18-Wheeler.....make way!....
...
...
...!
You know what they say about old truckers...
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 7:22am
Fozzer
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patchz wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 6:39am:
Fozzer wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 3:57am:
Paul....and a Peterbilt 388, 18-Wheeler.....make way!....
...
...
...!
You know what they say about old truckers...
...Old Truckers make very good....
........."Truckers?".......
...
...
....
....!
Paul...."Left hand down, a bit...".....
....
...!
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Mar 29
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, 2010 at 12:58pm
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Fozzer wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 7:22am:
patchz wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 6:39am:
Fozzer wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 3:57am:
Paul....and a Peterbilt 388, 18-Wheeler.....make way!....
...
...
...!
You know what they say about old truckers...
...Old Truckers make very good....
........."Truckers?".......
...
...
....
....!
Paul...."Left hand down, a bit...".....
....
...!
Paul....
you know that is not the one I was referring to; it's the one about old truckers never die, they just......
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 1:34pm
Fozzer
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patchz wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 12:58pm:
Fozzer wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 7:22am:
patchz wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 6:39am:
Fozzer wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 3:57am:
Paul....and a Peterbilt 388, 18-Wheeler.....make way!....
...
...
...!
You know what they say about old truckers...
...Old Truckers make very good....
........."Truckers?".......
...
...
....
....!
Paul...."Left hand down, a bit...".....
....
...!
Paul....
you know that is not the one I was referring to; it's the one about old truckers never die, they just......
...I just hope I don't; "fade away", whilst involved in the energetic activity of....
.....".....Trucking!...."....
....!
Paul...
.....an expert in; "Double entendre".....
...
...!
Double up!
Trucking up Highway 101 tonight, from Los Angeles to Seattle...
...!
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Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 2:09pm
patchz
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What, me worry?
IN THE FUNNY PAPERS
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Fozzer wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 1:34pm:
patchz wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 12:58pm:
Fozzer wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 7:22am:
patchz wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 6:39am:
Fozzer wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 3:57am:
Paul....and a Peterbilt 388, 18-Wheeler.....make way!....
...
...
...!
You know what they say about old truckers...
...Old Truckers make very good....
........."Truckers?".......
...
...
....
....!
Paul...."Left hand down, a bit...".....
....
...!
Paul....
you know that is not the one I was referring to; it's the one about old truckers never die, they just......
...I just hope I don't; "fade away", whilst involved in the energetic activity of....
.....".....Trucking!...."....
....!
Paul...
.....an expert in; "Double entendre".....
...
...!
Double up!
Trucking up Highway 101 tonight, from Los Angeles to Seattle...
...!
Fade away was not the one either.
Guess I will have to be explicit: they just get a new
click.
I
love
am very fond of double entendre, innuendo, and.....
shakey puddin'.
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Mar 29
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I have the Saitek pedals and they can't be used independently.
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Mar 29
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, 2010 at 3:49pm
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B-Valvs wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 3:24pm:
I have the Saitek pedals and they can't be used independently.
Thanks, Brando...
...!
I was hoping that the Manufacturers had designed them so that they could be used either for Rudder Pedals for Flight Simulators, or Accelerator and Brake Pedals for Driving Simulators by disengaging the interconnecting linkage between them.
Never mind. It looks as though I will have to use the Steering Wheel and Pedal arrangement for my Truck Simulators.
http://www.logic3.com/details/?prod=144
Paul....Wheeling and Dealing...
...
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Mar 29
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, 2010 at 10:06pm
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Fozzer wrote
on Mar 29
th
, 2010 at 3:57am:
I am beginning to suspect that not very many of our Flight Simmers actually own a set of Rudder Pedals
Paul.............I have the Saitek pedals and they appear to be strictly back and forth, using some mechanical method to move the potentiometer to it's travel limits. They aren't very realistic for aircraft use and would probably be less so for auto. While researching, I found several home-built units that could have met my needs had I the expertise. With your electical/electronics background, it might be worth a Google.
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